Quote Originally Posted by FunkyDexter View Post
Really?! From what I've heard they're extremely organised. They form their own lodges and do alot of great work for charity.
True, I forgot about that. However, when they do form lodges, they tend to engage in heavy drinking, which makes them less able to avoid predators. Those were good answers, though.

I agree with FD: You were even shown examples of Orcas feeding on makos, including explanations of how it was done, yet you bizarrely rejected that in favor of the species that you clearly favored right from the start. Meanwhile, everybody else was saying that there wasn't a single top predator, yet you rejected that, as well. That's a particularly nasty mistake, too. There has been much mischief caused throughout history by people deciding a priori that the structure must be X, and coming up with arguments to force the data to conform with their pre-existing beliefs. The worst case was with race, where there were originally thought to be four races, but if you have an even number, then there can't be one at the top. Therefore, a fifth race was created so that there would be two chains leading to a single race on top. I'll leave it to you to guess which one was chosen as being the 'top' race.

You are doing the same thing. You have decided that there must be a SINGLE top predator, and are desperately ignoring facts to make it so. You take the video evidence that Orcas prey on Makos and dismiss that because the teeth of the Orca aren't as suitable for eating sharks. You then go on to state how Makos must be preying on Orcas because they are capable of doing so. Therefore, you know that Orcas eat Makos, but you pretend that it doesn't happen, and you think that Makos must be eating Orcas, but you haven't shown that it happens. Frankly, both could easily be true. There doesn't have to be a single top predator in the ocean just as there isn't a single top predator on land. Furthermore, there could also be a keystone predator that is not the top predator, and I would suggest that a keystone predator is more important than a top predator anyways.