Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

[Shaggy Hiker]

so that u will not start asking for source.
I found one for you
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...676-9/fulltext
but its not my job to educate you.

Did you actually read it? It doesn't support your claim that getting over COVID provides better immunity than vaccination. It explicitly states in the very first paragraph that

There are still looming questions surrounding the strength and duration of such protection compared with that from vaccination.

. It's not comparing the two, and makes that clear right from the very first paragraph.

It's also about predominantly Delta, though covers some earlier strains as well, but that's neither here nor there.

[Shaggy Hiker]

u need to study immune-system and vaccination.
its basic biology.
its not that covid is something completely different.

I'd say that you do. What you put in the previous post is kind of right, but it's also a bit wrong. I wouldn't expect anybody to put specifics of those different layers into a post in a programming forum, but you then make a leap in saying that the immunization from a vaccine is different from the immunization from the virus. By that standard, how did vaccines wipe out smallpox? Why has polio been nearly eliminated through vaccines? Would you be better having had either of those?

[PlausiblyDamp]

u need to study immune-system and vaccination.
its basic biology.
its not that covid is something completely different.

Isn't that kind of the point about why vaccines aren't the enemy though - vaccines have been a medical success for a long time, 1879 is the first recognised "vaccine" but the idea of training the immune system has been around since the 1100s. Are you against any and all vaccines or just this one?

Also the immune system is not "basic biology" it is a very complex biological process that to even begin to understand its complexity would take many, many, years of medical study and training.

sure the narrative wants you to take the vaccine, its the whole scam that I have been telling all the time.
but if you go back before covid, the world was something different.
now u all are virus-experts and believe in the narrative forgetting everything about how it was before.

I would say it is the opposite, many people who have benefitted from past vaccines are willing to trust the experts who have studied, and worked with vaccines for many years. It is the people with no real experience in this specialised area, who have watched a few youtube videos and think that is equivalent "research" and are claiming expert knowledge while denouncing the vaccines.

anyway, I dont care if you want to suffer complications later on. its your own body.
as long you back off and do not tell what we should do, I dont give a rat ass about you.
thats the whole deal here. Im tired that you want to force people taking that poison.
if you want it take 100 shots. I dont care at all. but dont force it on someone else.

In all honesty the feeling is mutual, if you want to risk your own life because you believe vaccines are evil, poison, etc. then go for it. It is the unwillingness to consider what your choices have on the wider community that is offensive. Hospitals are suffering from bed shortages due to increased covid cases in the unvaccinated, people are unwilling to even take the basic, and simple, precaution of wearing a mask to protect others.

and as long u believe in the narrative u are also the enemy.

So if I agree with you I am good, disagree I am evil - evidence plays no part in this. As long as you are okay the world can burn, anyone who wants to remove your right to potentially spread an infectious disease is the enemy.

[Shaggy Hiker]

basic in the sense that the immune-system will always be better to man made crap.
that is something I learned from school. so its basic.

Okay, now I understand why the understandably wet one (though only slightly wet) asked whether you understand. It sounds like you are under the impression that vaccines are like antibiotics in that they attack the virus the way an antibiotic attacks a bacterium.

They train the immune system the same way that the virus does and with the same result. In both cases, it's the immune system that clears the virus, it's just a question as to whether it is the spike proteins of the virus, or the spike proteins created by the vaccine, that trains the immune system. In either case, the training is only on the spike proteins that are there, not the ones that have not yet been encountered.

[baka]

u are only reading what u want to read.
anyway, as I wrote, I can't change a person that do everything he can to protect the narrative.
you believe in the BS. and you avoid everything else just to be part of this.

but, as I wrote. its not just you. you can take as many vaccine you want.
the problem here is that you are part of a sect that want to vaccinate everybody against their will.
thats totalitarian and not democratic at all.

people that dont want to vaccinate lose their job, they cant move around, in some places in the world, they can just buy groceries and nothing else. in some countries they are forced to take it to keep their job to be able to pay their bill and give food to their children.

but you are still believing in the narrative. you should be shamed of yourself.
you are doing like the nazi did in german. they burn books, today you shut down pods and alternative media, if they are not following the narrative. they introduce special papers, so you can move freely while the other can not like they did in south africa, to divide white and black. its the same. its not free will but dictatorship. but you are fine with that. believing in the narrative.

as long you follow that, you are also helping with agenda to move along.
it will only get worse. just look in Canada, Australia and Austria. and it will only spread to more and more places. and the only thing that stands against it is the people that are against it. not you.

[wes4dbt]

anyway, I dont care if you want to suffer complications later on. its your own body.
as long you back off and do not tell what we should do, I dont give a rat ass about you.
thats the whole deal here. Im tired that you want to force people taking that poison.
if you want it take 100 shots. I dont care at all. but dont force it on someone else.

Yeah, I can't remember the last time someone was pushing mandates in this thread. If that's the "whole deal", then I'm not sure why your ranting about all this other things.

[baka]

yeah. if that was so easy.
if you all agree that the vaccination should be up to the person,
no mandate. but also no restrictions. no covid-certificates etc.
that would be good for me.
but as long you keep advocating for that, I will keep putting stuff here as well.
because you are on your "winning side" right now. while Im not.
you have your "tribe" that you are pride of, you are now a member of "the vaccinated"
you feel good. the agenda is what you believe. u have all those "rich" people behind you.
big pharma, politicians, media. those are powerful people that can do whatever they want.

so you are right now playing on that side.
but Im playing the other side. the smaller team, without that much influence and power.
so of course I need to do something. this is a matter of life. this can be the end of civilization.

and if u ever read history. u now its repeating itself. war and inevitable.
and right now the war is this. the creation of a totalitarian regime.

but remember when the time is right, u will suffer as well. this people in power will not care about you when they change the system and you own nothing.

just look at the market, the economy. theres signs everywhere.

[baka]

https://rumble.com/vtfgkb-demonic-pe...ransgende.html

Australia used to be an overwhelmingly Christian nation, but now they are producing anti-vaxx propaganda that promotes pedophile relationships.
The government in the state of Victoria, which contains the city of Melbourne, paid for a TikTok commercial telling female teenagers to go on 'vaxx dates' with 45 year old women, and to secretly get the jab against their parents wishes. Maria Zee also shared that Australia is planning to bring surprise vaccination clinics to schools and she joins us now to discuss.

[baka]

https://rumble.com/vtf7y4-professor-...f-austral.html

Professor Gigi Foster is a Professor of Economics at the University of NSW Business School. She holds a BA in Ethics, Politics and Economics from Yale University and a PhD in Economics from the University of Maryland. She also co-authored the book, 'The Great Covid Panic' along with Paul Frijters & Michael Baker

In this interview we discuss the mismanagement of the pandemic, why Professor Foster believes countries operating in lockstep is a political motivation, the state of Australia from an economics perspective and how to recover from the poor Australian response to COVID-19--something she says will take at least 5 years.

[PlausiblyDamp]

u are only reading what u want to read.
anyway, as I wrote, I can't change a person that do everything he can to protect the narrative.
you believe in the BS. and you avoid everything else just to be part of this.

I was reading the last article you linked to, an article that seemed to contradict your rationale for posting it. If anything I would say you were choosing to read what you wanted to read. You seemed to think it backed up your argument that a covid infection was superior to a vaccine for future protection, the article did not say that and wasn't really about that anyway.

but, as I wrote. its not just you. you can take as many vaccine you want.
the problem here is that you are part of a sect that want to vaccinate everybody against their will.
thats totalitarian and not democratic at all.

Erm, if the democratically elected government want to introduce rules mandating vaccines then that is democracy (specifically a representative democracy). You vote in a ruling party, the party makes rules, the populace obeys rules. If we don't like the rules we democratically elect a new party to change or make new rules. Totalitarianism is something completely different.

people that dont want to vaccinate lose their job, they cant move around, in some places in the world, they can just buy groceries and nothing else. in some countries they are forced to take it to keep their job to be able to pay their bill and give food to their children.

If the democratically elected governing body makes rules that require you to meet certain legal conditions then breaking those conditions will have consequences. People are free to make the decision to not follow the rules, they are however then going to suffer the consequences.

[baka]

https://zeeemedia.com/interview/dr-m...n-politicians/

An historic international video conference took place on 25 November, organised by Australians John Huntley and Ben Bornstein.

Participants in Webinar (in Alphabetical Order) :
Senator Alex Antic (SA), Ben Bornstein (Victoria), Dr Robert Brennan (Qld), Professor Ian Brighthope (Vic), Dr Gerry Brady (Qld), Senator Matt Canavan (Qld), George Christensen MP (Qld), John Huntley (Qld), Dr Garry Fettke (Tasmania), Senator Ron Johnson (Wisconsin), Craig Kelly MP (NSW), Charles Kovess (Vic), Matthew Hopkins (NSW), Dr Tess Lawrie PhD (UK), Lt Col (ret) Kevin Loughrey (NSW), Professor Peter McCullough (Texas), Professor Chris Neil (Melbourne), Tony Nicolic (NSW), Senator Gerard Rennick (Qld), Senator Malcolm Roberts (Qld), Monica Smit (Victoria), Dr Brian Tyson (California).

[PlausiblyDamp]

https://rumble.com/vtfgkb-demonic-pe...ransgende.html

Australia used to be an overwhelmingly Christian nation, but now they are producing anti-vaxx propaganda that promotes pedophile relationships.
The government in the state of Victoria, which contains the city of Melbourne, paid for a TikTok commercial telling female teenagers to go on 'vaxx dates' with 45 year old women, and to secretly get the jab against their parents wishes. Maria Zee also shared that Australia is planning to bring surprise vaccination clinics to schools and she joins us now to discuss.

If your take on that is promotion of paedophile relationships then you are doing nothing other than (just checking for the correct words here... Oh yeah) "reading what you want to read", also the "True Christian" attitude of dragging gender into any argument they can. Also not the links are directly promoting an alternative cure by a Dr Zelenko, someone who directly stands to benefit financially from the anti-vax movement by promoting the message that vaccines are bad and his cure is good and effective. A cure that has had no effective clinical trials, no peer reviews, etc.

[baka]

you are my enemy. I will not answer to any of you anymore and I will not defend my points.
for me you are traitors to humanity. you are destroying humans, both life and their health.
when the truth will come out, I hope you will be ashamed of yourself.

I just post for the people that are interested.

[FunkyDexter]

I don't think he claimed expertise either though.

Agreed. I went for a gag but it clearly came across wrong. My point was, I fact checked him and found nothing - hence the page 404. He's a well respected economist who wrote a single opinion piece on Covid and made it clear that it was an opinion piece. Markedly different from some of the behaviour we've been observing recently.

you are my enemy.

We're really not, we're on your side. Part of the reason I've been debunking your sources in the way I have is that I hoped it would prompt you to start digging into them yourself before posting. If you did that you'd start to realise how weak they are and how you are being manipulated by charlatans. It would give you the chance to pull yourself out f the hole you're in.

[baka]

this is very interesting

today a independent news journalist asked a question to The Swedish Public Health Agency.

he said:
- what is a vaccinated person? to be classified that, you need to have at least (the current) vaccine shot and wait 2 weeks before you are considered vaccinated, otherwise you will find yourself in the "non vaccinated statistic"
- the same if you have taken your first shot, you will still be considered non vaccinated, until you have the needed amount (soon 3)
- the person said, many old people that gets vaccinated can get severe reaction or even death before the 2 weeks, and that will show in the non vaccinated statistics.
- and its about a directive from WHO that everybody are following
- she couldn't answer well, she started to explain statistics and was stuttering
- eventually she said, its for the covid-certificate, so that its allow you to travel. and try to tell we are transparent about it. no manipulation is going on
- the journalist continues
- but you are talking on the "expected protection" from the vaccine, Im talking about the negative consequences that you are moving between the groups
- and if we looks into how you have done, u can clearly see a manipulative conduct
- if you have 1 dose, u place infected, hospitalized and deceased in the non-vaccinated group if the time is less than 3 weeks, the same method you use with 2 doses and now even the boosters the same way.
- and this will of course affect the statistics and will always show a negative number for the non vaccinated.
- they try to stop him in the middle of his explanation, as they seem to just want to move on. (do you have any other questions she asks)
- now he says. this is not just any numbers, this is about discrimination and force an attitude against the non vaccinated. that now in almost considered as a swear words. and dividing people.
- he demand the real data of account for this conduct.
- she says: I don't know how to answer. we have a lot of data, we look it up in many different ways. and we are showing all our data.
- she repeat: I don't know how to answer. we are transparent.
- the other person, says: we need to continue

source (the inteview in swedish)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1097685274386664

source: (in swedish)
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/...20och%20äldre.

translate:

At present, those who have been vaccinated with two doses of covid-19 vaccine are considered vaccinated. It must have been at least two weeks since the last dose was given.

In addition to the two doses, a refill dose is recommended for everyone who is 18 years and older. The replenishment dose is offered according to a given priority order, where those who have the greatest risk of covid-19 must be offered the vaccine first.

However, those who have not received a dose of covid-19 vaccine, or who have received only one dose of a two-dose vaccine, are considered unvaccinated. Similarly, those who have received two doses of vaccine but where it has not yet been two weeks since the last dose have been vaccinated.

[PlausiblyDamp]

you are my enemy. I will not answer to any of you anymore and I will not defend my points.
for me you are traitors to humanity. you are destroying humans, both life and their health.
when the truth will come out, I hope you will be ashamed of yourself.

I just post for the people that are interested.

And there we have it. You post articles that don't back up your claims, you promote anti-vax pages that haven't had any proper peer review. You accuse people of reading what they want to read, while doing exactly the same yourself.

When confronted with any form of challenge that is actually looking at your "evidence", you refuse to engage with the responses and declare the other person an enemy. This is exactly the attitude I have come to expect from people promoting conspiracy theories and anti-vax rhetoric.

[Eduardo-]

you are my enemy. I will not answer to any of you anymore and I will not defend my points.
for me you are traitors to humanity. you are destroying humans, both life and their health.
when the truth will come out, I hope you will be ashamed of yourself.

I just post for the people that are interested.

Baka: they are like zombies, don't waste more time on them.
For your mental health (theirs is already compromised).

Two movies illustrate the situation about these persons in my mind:

when the truth will come out, I hope you will be ashamed of yourself.

I'm not sure whether they still have the ability to experience any shame.
I think their minds may be too compromised already (that process didn't start with the pandemic, of course).

The numbers match:

30%+40%+30% but in the process, as Professor Mattias Desmet explained, the last 30 starts being less, it rises to a 30% with time, after a process.
At first the middle group is like 60% and the last group may be like 10%.
I myself was in the second group and now I'm in the third.

Look how many you see here that are in the first and the third groups. That's the current proportion (OK, we are too few to infer that to a larger scale, but it seems to match).

The second group is not interested in coming to a thread like this, or very few are (we can see at least one that seems to be wanting to be neutral).

Niya:

Perhaps you may like this video:

[Eduardo-]

About the mRNA "vaccines": they are not vaccines at all.
They already called them "vaccines" back in 2017 when they were developing the technology (they still didn't work at that time).
They aimed to cure cancer with them.

[PlausiblyDamp]

About the mRNA "vaccines": they are not vaccines at all.
They already called them "vaccines" back in 2017 when they were developing the technology (they still didn't work at that time).
They aimed to cure cancer with them.

So what are they then?

mRNA just means Messenger RNA, it is not specific to vaccines - mRNA is just one of the types or RNA that is found in a cell.

In reference to curing cancer people are currently doing research in how mRNA could be a possible mechanism for targeting certain types of cancer. I believe they have started human trials, but in this respect it is early days.

However, a mRNA vaccine is a vaccine. It uses mRNA to cause your body to produce the spike protein associated with the virus. This ultimately triggers the body's immune response system and develop mechanisms to combat the real virus. It is doing exactly what a vaccine would do, it is just using a different mechanism. So explain how it isn't a vaccine. Preferably in words, not 40+ minute youtube videos.

[TysonLPrice]

I know of a couple of people on this thread that would be banned for malicious misinformation on any other site that cares about it.

[Niya]

Niya:

Perhaps you may like this video:

Oh hell yea. This video deeply resonates with my worldview. I especially liked the story of the young Russian man and the point it illustrated about the kind of courage that is lacking in modern society. Modern people are such utter cowards, afraid to stand on their squares because they fear ostracism and criticism. Cowardice is why the radical left's madness has been allowed to infect every facet of life in first world countries like America where a teacher can get fired from their job because they didn't want to play make-believe with a student that thinks he is a dog.

Here is a different video but in similar vein. It showed up in my recommendations this morning. This one pretty much sums up my entire worldview over the past few years. This one explains my default overall worldview far better than I ever could with my own words:-

[FunkyDexter]

https://rumble.com/vtfgkb-demonic-pe...ransgende.html

Australia used to be an overwhelmingly Christian nation, but now they are producing anti-vaxx propaganda that promotes pedophile relationships.
The government in the state of Victoria, which contains the city of Melbourne, paid for a TikTok commercial telling female teenagers to go on 'vaxx dates' with 45 year old women, and to secretly get the jab against their parents wishes. Maria Zee also shared that Australia is planning to bring surprise vaccination clinics to schools and she joins us now to discuss.

Here's a screenshot of the content of that link:-


Do you believe that government sponsored demonic paedophiles are targeting our children? If not, why continue to treat the source as credible. If you do ....

I know of a couple of people on this thread that would be banned for malicious misinformation on any other site that cares about it.

It's not something we've discussed as mods though perhaps we should. My personal opinion is that I'd rather let people posts their beliefs and so that they can be challenged in the open. Supressing those views forces them into dark corners where they fester. As it stands they don't break our published rules.

[baka]

yes Eduardo-, I failed to do so, but I will try to be strong and not fall into that again.

as I see it, its not just the vaccination campaign to enslave us, but its also spiritual (or any belief you have)
this is about evolution as well.

do we want to be stuck in this world created by those egomaniacs that want to control every aspect of our lives?
it was quite interesting to listen to this: https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/mu...-covid-crimes/

he says: It is only through this Corona "plandemic" that I really opened my eyes.

and I really think so, this is so much more. it will show who you are and what you stand for.
if you are a person that want to be part of nature, for the good in the world, for our prosperity of the human race
to not stand idle and let the corrupted government and elites controls you.

this event is to see who are easy to control and who are not. and their mission is to force you to obey or remove you.
and when that part is done, the "mass formation" is complete, they will continue with the next part. and we dont want that.

this is not something done this 2 years, but something ongoing for decades.

now its like this is the real judgement day.

[Niya]

It's not something we've discussed as mods though perhaps we should. My personal opinion is that I'd rather let people posts their beliefs and so that they can be challenged in the open. Supressing those views forces them into dark corners where they fester. As it stands they don't break our published rules.

I don't think it is for any of us, mods included, to decide what and what doesn't qualify as misinformation except only in extreme cases such as the outright staggering levels of stupidity that leads to theories like the Earth being flat.

[Eduardo-]

Oh hell yea. This video deeply resonates with my worldview. I especially liked the story of the young Russian man and the point it illustrated about the kind of courage that is lacking in modern society. Modern people are such utter cowards, afraid to stand on their squares because they fear ostracism and criticism. Cowardice is why the radical left's madness has been allowed to infect every facet of life in first world countries like America where a teacher can get fired from their job because they didn't want to play make-believe with a student that thinks he is a dog.

Here is a different video but in similar vein. It showed up in my recommendations this morning. This one pretty much sums up my entire worldview over the past few years. This one explains my default overall worldview far better than I ever could with my own words:-

Yes Niya, thank you. The video explains it well.

[Eduardo-]

I don't think it is for any of us, mods included, to decide what and what doesn't qualify as misinformation except only in extreme cases such as the outright staggering levels of stupidity that leads to theories like the Earth being flat.

To talk about "misinformation" is to imply that the people is stupid.

Every one can decide what is misinformation or not.

And that would include Flat Earth theories and almost whatever.

[baka]

I watched a youtube not long ago that is very much like that "You Will Never Do Anything Remarkable".
but with a message to change it:

[sapator]

I don't think it is for any of us, mods included, to decide what and what doesn't qualify as misinformation except only in extreme cases such as the outright staggering levels of stupidity that leads to theories like the Earth being flat.

What the?!
Earth is flat, else we would have slide down for all eternity!

Misinformation, depends. We are no doctors we get our source from mostly medical magazines or internal medical studies, such as the ones posted for omicron been nothing but a flukous. But we often doctor of not have a hunch that could be qualified as misinformation at that time but prove correct afterward (as dday pointed out). For example I was writing that the mutations would be of lower mortality, a year ago. That could be qualified as "misinformation" at the time but now it's the truth.

[baka]

https://rumble.com/vtf7y4-professor-...f-austral.html

Professor Gigi Foster is a Professor of Economics at the University of NSW Business School. She holds a BA in Ethics, Politics and Economics from Yale University and a PhD in Economics from the University of Maryland. She also co-authored the book, 'The Great Covid Panic' along with Paul Frijters & Michael Baker

so, she doesn't believe in an evil organization that has been planning this for decades.
she doesn't believe that the pandemic was planted as excuse for the great reset.

instead she thinks the reason we are here its the population.
she explain that its the masses that "demands" the politicians to serve them in this way.
but of course she says that those people in power will adapt and also use it for their own benefits.
so you could say the world economic forum and all the people around it are not to blame.
but now they can use it for their own agenda.

I don't agree with her. maybe the logic is valid, but this event is not random. its well planned.

[Shaggy Hiker]

yeah. if that was so easy.
if you all agree that the vaccination should be up to the person,
no mandate. but also no restrictions. no covid-certificates etc.

We have no mandates, except those that are up to the employer. We have no restrictions except for those that are up to the venue (either employer, or venue like a concert hall, etc.), and we have no COVID certificates of any sort. Those are all European things, as far as I can tell. Therefore, it's pointless for us to be for or against them, as they don't exist.

However, when it comes to vaccine mandates, they've done some significantly positive things (eradicating smallpox and polio), and in the US, we recently saw what happened when other vaccine mandates were relaxed (an outbreak of measles, which was nearly eradicated here, as a result of a cluster of anti-vax folks), so I'm of two minds on that one. COVID is nowhere near as dangerous as either smallpox or polio. I believe that it will become closer to the flu. There are no mandates for flu vaccines, while we have had mandates for decades for MMR and polio vaccines (I don't think we still vaccinate for smallpox, but I'm not sure and don't want to look it up). We may be deciding vaccination policy on a sliding scale, or on a case by case basis, or on something even less rational.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Emm, you should if you had a proper language

Well we don't. We speak English.

[Shaggy Hiker]

However, in New Orleans for example, you're required to show proof of vaccination and you're required to wear a mask in many situations and these mandates are mandated by law.

Mandated by who? The only ones I know of in this area are certain employers. That is well established: No shirt, no shoes, no service. Since that's allowed, so are mask mandates or vaccine mandates, but that's up to the employer or establishment. Technically, that's mandated by law, but only so far as it being confirmed that establishments have the right to do that kind of thing.

[sapator]

More like mutt Greek with a touch of Latin and Proto-Germanic . Should be named Grermatins or BaoYaoish

[Shaggy Hiker]

More like mutt Greek with a touch of Latin and Proto-Germanic . Should be named Grermatins or BaoYaoish

We have words from darn near every language that is spoken anywhere around Europe, the Middle East, and so on, including made up words, acronyms that have become words, and every other fantastical formulation. English is very much the mutt of languages.

[baka]

we don't know when they will increase it. the EU is trying to create a system so that all countries will be the same,
but right now we have:

For public gatherings and public events indoors with more than 50 participants, vaccination certificates, designated seating and at least one meter distance to other parties are required. Each party may be a maximum of eight people.

Public gatherings or public events indoors with more than 20 and a maximum of 50 participants must have seated participants, a maximum of eight per party and at least one meter between the parties. Vaccination certificates may be used.

this will apply pretty much like you have it in new orleans indoor-restrictions.
I mean its hard to find anything below 20 persons in a public activity indoor.
in EU theres different rules, some more restrictions. but its just a matter of time before they will mandate it "IF" we are not more actively trying to stop it.
and if you follow the news you will know that theres protest all the time here.

I have family in Italy, and I have not been able to travel there for 2 years.
I mean, sure I can do pcr tests, that still works, but when I get there I will need to do it all the time.
theres also a quarantine rule, I need to be inside for 5 days and after that make another pcr test.
after that, every 3 days I need to make an antigen test to be able to move around. public transportation also require it.
I can only be home and go to the grocery and pharmacy without that. so not much fun to travel.

I feel that australia, austria and canada are like "testing countries" if it works they will try to apply it to other countries as well.

and in the USA you also have many protesters, and I think its needed or the government would speed it up.

[wes4dbt]

https://ready.nola.gov/incident/coro...very&utm_term=

Yeah, in Ca. the rules can vary by county. I've stopped trying to keep up with what the current rules are. But nowhere do you have to show proof of vaccination. Not really a problem for me, I'm vaccinated and always wear a mask when I go into a store.

I thought the Fed's have a mandate on the military. Did that not happen?

The mandates that exists just seem to be token measures. They talk about parade workers must be vaccinated, if their concern was the safety of people, there wouldn't be a parade. There also wouldn't be stadiums full of sports fans, concerts, packed restaurants.

No, it seems we've decided to proceed with only token efforts for our safety. The fact our average daily COVID deaths are 2,200+ doesn't really seem to alarm the majority. I think COVID fatigue is real.

[baka]

A study published on December 6, 2021 in the American Heart Association’s journal Circulation, investigated 139 children <21 years old that experienced 140 suspected episodes of myocarditis. The study found that suspected myocarditis occurred in 97.8% of the children following an mRNA injection, 94.2% of the suspected episodes followed the Pfizer-BioNTech injection, and 91.4% of the episodes occurred after the second injection.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...AHA.121.056583

A study from the University of Oxford evaluated the association between Covid-19 vaccine and myocarditis in more than 42 million people aged 13 and older. An increased risk of myocarditis was found 1-28 days following the third dose of thePfizer-BioNTech injection. The increased risk was seen primarily in males younger than 40.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....23.21268276v1

A study published in Nature Medicine on December 14, 2021 found a greater risk of myocarditis following Moderna’s Covid-19 injection than from catching the virus itself in those under the age of 40.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0

A study from Kaiser Permanente Northwest found a ~1/1860 and ~1/2650 risk of myopericarditis in males age 18-24 and 12-17 respectively following their second dose of the Covid-19 mRNA injection.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....21.21268209v1

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Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1262415v1.full

Large-scale study of antibody titer decay following BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine or SARS-CoV-2 infection

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....19.21262111v1

Discrete Immune Response Signature to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination Versus Infection

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3838993

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Antibody Evolution after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...07.29.454333v1

Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....01.21258176v3

Previous COVID-19 infection but not Long-COVID is associated with increased adverse events following BNT162b2/Pfizer vaccination

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....15.21252192v1

SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Response to the BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccine in Persons with Past Natural Infection

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8422040/

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SARS-CoV-2 re-infection risk in Austria

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1111/eci.13520

Persistence of neutralizing antibodies a year after SARS-CoV-2 infection in humans

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/.../eji.202149535

One-year sustained cellular and humoral immunities of COVID-19 convalescents

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance...ytQ_Hc.twitter