What would constitute valid evidence in your eyes ?
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Nowai dude, I focus on science, logic and facts!
Sure you did I already quoted you directly!!!
You said, and I reiterate, that the Jews "control the world's banking system", that "they have the power to decide the winners and losers in wars between nations", and that they have "no problem facilitating genocides to further the goal of more profits." !!!
I provided extensive direct evidence that you have made up a fictional global conspiracy specifically designed to vilify the Jews, just like Hitler did!!!
I don't think there is any point of contention, you have quite clearly made up a gigantic troll science case against the Jews.
Moreover you are a self confessed troll, you have by your own admission trolled countless other forums, and you have done exactly the same here!
All of your arguments lack reason, evidence and objectivity which is why it is such obvious trolling!
Like I indicated, criticism is fine although you have to be able to support your case with logic and facts otherwise it is merely libel, and in breach of countless international laws!
How would you like it if somebody made up an entirely fictional case against you in order to unjustly defame you publicly and world wide?
You are an anti-Semite, as was Adolf Hitler!
I still believe that you are an grossly perverted anti-Semitic troll!
There isn't any valid evidence to support your libelous anti-Semetic global conspiracy, and you know it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2EIHGFprRU
On the off chance that I'm the one that's crazy, I decided to spend that last hour scouring the internet a little for information on this very topic to see just how my views stood. Its not as easy as it looks because if you look up directly you end up with a lot of biased information written by white supremest types that insist that the Jews have it in for us all which is just nuts. So what I had to do was a lot of cross referencing with some partial biased information and information that was neutral on Jewish issues and match up names.
The results weren't very conclusive under casual examination. There are indeed a lot of Jews in very influential positions. Its almost disproportionate when compared against their non-Jewish peers. I was also quite surprised to see a lot of Asian names popping up as well. I also looked up a couple articles here and there that discussed the issue directly but with a more objective tone and it seems to me that what I was saying all through this thread had a ring of truth to it. It was mostly true in the 1900s and before. It seems that there are other players entering the game and slowly displacing Jewish hegemony of many large organizations, most notably media companies. Jews themselves are also eroding this by marrying "gentiles" and in one article, it even said that some Jews are doing notably "un-Jewish" things or to put it more correctly, aren't really identifying with their Jewish roots as strongly as their ancestors. In other words, they're Jews in name only.
I am going to let this discussion die before it makes enemies of us. I'm not conceding anything but its clear that my points need further refinement and it should be backed by citations from respected sources. I can do that, but it will take hours upon hours of reading and cross referencing and to be honest, I have better things to do. I got a couple unfinished projects that need that precious time. Perhaps when I'm not bogged down these unfinished projects, I can revisit this topic with a more finely tuned rhetoric. So for the time being, lets just agree to disagree and remain cordial.
R.O.F.L!!!!! The last time I was forced to read insanities like your anti-Jewish rants would have to have been in ThEiMp's threads!
Hmmm, we both know there wasn't going to be any valid evidence supporting your tin foil hat conspiracy!
What was the problem, that sounds just like what you were looking for to support your case???!!!
Neutral sources - that doesn't sound good as far as your conspiracy theory is concerned!
Yep those unbiased neutral sources will get you every time!
What do you expect from a society based on Christianity which is fundamentally dependent on its Jewish roots!
I am not sure if you can begrudge religious types for being successful!
Do you have a theory on that for us to read????
Without sources I cannot accept that point!!!
That wouldn't have been in the lead up to World War II would it???
Well that sounds like start of the end of your conspiracy right there!
Really, we were are all looking forwards to reading your bullet proof sources!
Yep!
U sure abt that mister?
Well in that case you should back down from your position until then!!!!!
We are all looking forward to version 2.0 of your Global Jewish criminal conspiracy theory complete with free tin foil hat; however, I have a strong feeling it won't make it that far!
Jesus Christ, whats with me creating chit chat threads that turn into super threads? :ehh:
/slaps self in the hopes I'd knock myself out
I wonder, if I had been arguing the position that Roman society was a cruel and barbaric society instead of an enlightened one, would you have wanted to hang me so badly for being anti-Roman ? Nah....The Jews are special. Hitler killed 6 million of them and everyone is still butthurt over that so now they're above reproach....lest anyone thinks you're another Hitler....that's how it goes right ? Someone says, "hey, seems there are a lot of Jews running things" and people like you, trained attack dogs, unleash your fangs and start barking "Jew hater", "anti-Semite", "bigot", "racist". Hmmmm.....
Look, its very clear to me that you're a Jew worshiping sycophant and while my arguments may not have been very clear, it doesn't matter. Even if I presented a much stronger case complete with citations from respectable sources, you would still insist that I'm the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. Like all zealots, you are heavily guarded against any notion that could force you to abandon any comfortable preconceived ideas you may hold. Debating with you is like debating with devout Christians, a total waste of time.
It was Shaggy's interruption of our little bantering that made me push the brakes. He's quite a reasonable individual and as such it lent weight to this decision. If he was watching this, then its possible that other more reasonable members are also watching and they deserve a better prepared debate than this train wreck. Also, continuing this would lead to only one outcome, this thread, locked because sycophants like you drive me insane.
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You guys should drink Mountain Jew in the meantime...
It would really depend on how you present your case as ancient Roman society also had many classic features of a pre-civilised society!
There is definitely some widespread empathy for the Jewish plight given the relatively recent time-frame involved, which you should definitely take into account! :thumb:
Even though I am not a dog, I'll take that as a compliment!
Compared to other religions focusing on practices such as human sacrifice and cannibalism the Jewish religions including Christianity have many redeeming features!
Dunno, first you will have to provide some solid citations and respectable sources!
I wouldn't go that far!!
Nah, you just need to come up with something better than rabble rousing and fear mongering!!!
Couldn't troll them either???
Yep they do, although it has had it moments!
I firmly believe you managed to get there all by yourself!!!!!
I prefer cola!
For Niya: How to make a tin foil hat to improve your reception!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS8dNzRhMgk
You're not a Roman worshiper too are you ? That's even worse than a Jewish sycophant.
You can kiss my ass with that nonsense. I'm not doing anything of the sort. A 2 second Google search will reveal any number of appalling atrocities being committed today. Even the Jewish state of Israel is pitching in. Where's the empathy for the poor souls suffering under these conditions. The holocaust happened close to a century ago. Yet lapdog sycophants like you refuse to let it go. Its insulting to imply the need for special treatment when it comes to victims of the holocaust.
Fine by me.
Huh ??? Is your brain working properly ?
lol...Logic never means anything to a zealot. It would be wasted effort if its only to sway you.
You're easily scared ? Why am I not surprised.
You're the troll here my friend.
You're the one that keeps prolonging this bullshit.
So if you are not into the classics tell me what are YOU into Niya???
Such unfounded blatant hostility towards the Jews; have you no soul, no sympathy, or is that for weaklings???!!!
Dude the difference is things like the atrocious medical experiments which still, to this very day, stand out as some of the worst ever abuses of humans on the planet!
Sure is mister! How 'bout u???
Let me write that down... "Logic is wasted effort"-Niya
Do you think you would succeed where Hitler failed???
How do you figure that that is not a libelous statement???
Language Niya, you know better than that!
B.T.W did you like the tin foil hat vid?
Butting heads with illogical zealotry.
I have no more empathy for them than I do for the many slaughtered by the Roman Empire, the Golden Horde, the Ottomon Empire, the Persian Empire, the Han dynasty, Alexander the Great, Cyrus the Great or Saladin. Tell me again, what makes the holocaust so special ?
WORST EVER ON THE PLANET !!! ARE YOU ****IN KIDDING ME !!! ? THIS IS THE MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENT I'VE EVER READ!!!
lol....I'm not even gonna.....
Extermination of the Jews is no desire of mine. You're the one on a witch hunt, not me.
Is that on Bible Chat City or your favorite, Teamliquid.net???
[QUOTE=Niya;4423625]I have no more empathy for them than I do for the many slaughtered by the Roman Empire, the Golden Horde, the Ottomon Empire, the Persian Empire, the Han dynasty, Alexander the Great, Cyrus the Great or Saladin. Tell me again, what makes the holocaust so special ?
The medical experimentation!
Easy, easy, it is fairly widely accepted that the medical experiments carried out on the Jews by the Nazi's are some of the most atrocious in history!
See you were funny!
U absolutely sure abt that mister?
I prefer the modern justice system!
I'm actually flattered you remembered such details about me. My favorite is Teamliquid. Every member of that site is as unreasonable as you....Hell they're worse than you.
This is how I know for a 100% fact that you're a brainwashed sycophant. Ever heard of the Brazen Bull ? I'd much rather have a kookie doctor sticking needles in my ass than suffer the Brazen Bull. In my mind, the Brazen Bull is the most terrifying form of torture to death. The point of telling you this is to illustrate to you that severity of certain acts is purely subjective. By saying that the medical experiments of the Nazi's are the worst of the worst, you're basically parroting somebody else's subjective musing. "They" want you accept that objectively. Don't bother asking me who "they" are because I don't really know. For brevity's sake, lets say the mainstream media.
L.O.L worse than me, surely not???
Really you should read about the Nazi experiments, being roasted for half an hour sound like an nice way to go by comparison!
Why is the brazen bull any worse than say the cross where men were left to suffer for days on end?
Not convinced, I think there is some objectivity that can be applied in determining the worst forms of torture.
While it's true that I have to accept someone else's description of the events rather than being there myself I would never squawk or even screech about what I read!
Sure I presume "they" are medical reporters or doctors, why would you not accept their professional assessments?
Yes, believe it or not, those morons actually make you look quite good.
Well some of the experiments do imply long term suffering and I will concede that on that point. Better to suffer for a half-hour than an indefinite amount of time that could possibly add up to months.
Are you kidding me, I'd chose in a heart beat to be nailed to a cross if the only alternative is the Brazen Bull. The Brazen Bull stirs untold terror deep in my soul.
I'll be willing to concede this, if the length of time is one of the metrics used. Otherwise, all times being equal, what is worse is subjective.
See...this is what causes arguments. When you read this stuff be mindful of the author or story teller's own subjectivity.
No amount of medical know-how is gonna convince me that the crucifixion is worse than the Brazen Bull. Fear is not rational, and again, subjective.
That pretty much answers your question as to what would constitute valid evidence. Pretty much everything you said confirmed what I always thought: Jews WERE dominant in some financial areas for reasons that are oddly rooted in their persecution through the centuries, but that dominance has been fading. You also appear to have confirmed the Google bias I expected where the majority of sites would be supremecist rantings.
I'm not. If you were to take a random sample around the globe (which Google is not, but it's pretty global), you should see the remnants of some asian isolationism, the 70s Japanese expansion, and other such effects. I would expect it to be regional, on a global scale, but I would expect that Google would not show the regionalism.Quote:
I was also quite surprised to see a lot of Asian names popping up as well.
Was it the one ring? If so, you may have to go on an epic quest with a furry companion (perhaps Jacob Roman, in fact, and I won't go on about your other follower) to drop it into the fires of the Mountain of Doom (or just play Doom while dropping it into a Hibachi) before this thread can die.Quote:
I also looked up a couple articles here and there that discussed the issue directly but with a more objective tone and it seems to me that what I was saying all through this thread had a ring of truth to it.
I knew it! I am a God!!! :bigyello:Quote:
Originally Posted by NIYA
Typical. You wait ages for a God to go by and then two turn up at the same time!
Witis, you old sore on my ass, where have you gone ? I'm getting bored. Wanna go round two for Romans this time ?
Oh there you are. Been too quite around here....I'm bringing in the nukes this time, no more grenades. I'm gonna burn you to dust!!! lol
K, I is ready for all of your p0wers of deduction!!!
A guy here was turning over a cat to an animal welfare group, he placed the cat in a sack, now he is in jail because of putting the cat in a sack.
And what would happen if I were to put a "Cat In The Hat?" :ehh:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...7-LUW0FcsSRpyQ
Oh Witis you fool. It was suppose to be a joke.
But since you failed to rhyme, now I must invoke.
A mouse would fit of course, but would you want it to.
After all the mean things you said about Jews. ;)
Im not a Roman Catholic, I'm just a Roman.
Quite possibly a God. Man what crack are you smokin'.
So Mr. Witis, what are you going to do about that?
Do you intend to rhyme like The Cat in The Hat?
What's that you say a man called Zeus writing about cats in the house catching the mouse?
Yes it is true, that what cats always do, you had better watch out it might happen to you!
As for poor Seuss, I think no one told him
the titanic sank and Olympus has fallen!
JR you old fool
Don't be such a tool
When Seuss made his rhymes
He wrote in short lines
He didn't waste ink
To make people think,
But wrote nice and short
For the non-reading sort
So, when whit you defame
And less make his name
Don't mess with the cat
Right here in chit chat.
Witis is right!
Thouart Jews are lost.
I giveth thee chances.
It comes at a cost.
I sacrificed my son
for all of your sins.
He was also a Jew
yet thouart grin.
You createth religions,
with rules from thy flesh.
Not from thee God.
For that, ye shalt perish.
Beholdeth your creator!
The God amongst men.
Jesus was also a God
mind ye, amen.
Are you really a God?
It cannot be true!
You gloat that you are.
You must be a fool.
Believe it or not.
Dr Seuss isnt a Jew.
It was rumored he was.
But only by a few.
Shaggy you fool.
Why pick on JR?
His rhymes were as catchy
as a gangsta rapper by far.
Could it be that Witis is fat?
Or could it be that I am the Cat In The Hat :bigyello: