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[Niya]

...I'd like to see some evidence, as well...

What would constitute valid evidence in your eyes ?

[Witis]

Again you're deliberately being an idiot.

Nowai dude, I focus on science, logic and facts!

I said nothing of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy,

Sure you did I already quoted you directly!!!

I said it was an oligarch that was comprised mainly of Jews. There is nothing inherently Jewish about this oligarchy, it just happens that there are a lot of very powerful Jews among these elite people.

You said, and I reiterate, that the Jews "control the world's banking system", that "they have the power to decide the winners and losers in wars between nations", and that they have "no problem facilitating genocides to further the goal of more profits." !!!

You did nothing of the sort. All you did was constantly babble on about my apparent anti-Semitism and how much I apparently hate Jews.

I provided extensive direct evidence that you have made up a fictional global conspiracy specifically designed to vilify the Jews, just like Hitler did!!!

I also said I don't bring those antics here.

I don't think there is any point of contention, you have quite clearly made up a gigantic troll science case against the Jews.
Moreover you are a self confessed troll, you have by your own admission trolled countless other forums, and you have done exactly the same here!

Debating this with you is utterly pointless. The brainwashing is so deeply embedded in your soul that it is impossible for you to think objectively about any topic involving Jews.

All of your arguments lack reason, evidence and objectivity which is why it is such obvious trolling!

As far as you're concerned, they are poor innocent misunderstood souls that can do no wrong and anybody that dares to suggest otherwise is probably a fervent anti-Semite.

Like I indicated, criticism is fine although you have to be able to support your case with logic and facts otherwise it is merely libel, and in breach of countless international laws!
How would you like it if somebody made up an entirely fictional case against you in order to unjustly defame you publicly and world wide?

Your brainwashing is causing you to see me as Adolf Hitler.

You are an anti-Semite, as was Adolf Hitler!

go on believing whatever makes you happy.

I still believe that you are an grossly perverted anti-Semitic troll!

[Witis]

What would constitute valid evidence in your eyes ?

There isn't any valid evidence to support your libelous anti-Semetic global conspiracy, and you know it!

[Niya]

On the off chance that I'm the one that's crazy, I decided to spend that last hour scouring the internet a little for information on this very topic to see just how my views stood. Its not as easy as it looks because if you look up directly you end up with a lot of biased information written by white supremest types that insist that the Jews have it in for us all which is just nuts. So what I had to do was a lot of cross referencing with some partial biased information and information that was neutral on Jewish issues and match up names.

The results weren't very conclusive under casual examination. There are indeed a lot of Jews in very influential positions. Its almost disproportionate when compared against their non-Jewish peers. I was also quite surprised to see a lot of Asian names popping up as well. I also looked up a couple articles here and there that discussed the issue directly but with a more objective tone and it seems to me that what I was saying all through this thread had a ring of truth to it. It was mostly true in the 1900s and before. It seems that there are other players entering the game and slowly displacing Jewish hegemony of many large organizations, most notably media companies. Jews themselves are also eroding this by marrying "gentiles" and in one article, it even said that some Jews are doing notably "un-Jewish" things or to put it more correctly, aren't really identifying with their Jewish roots as strongly as their ancestors. In other words, they're Jews in name only.

I am going to let this discussion die before it makes enemies of us. I'm not conceding anything but its clear that my points need further refinement and it should be backed by citations from respected sources. I can do that, but it will take hours upon hours of reading and cross referencing and to be honest, I have better things to do. I got a couple unfinished projects that need that precious time. Perhaps when I'm not bogged down these unfinished projects, I can revisit this topic with a more finely tuned rhetoric. So for the time being, lets just agree to disagree and remain cordial.

[Witis]

On the off chance that I'm the one that's crazy,

R.O.F.L!!!!! The last time I was forced to read insanities like your anti-Jewish rants would have to have been in ThEiMp's threads!

I decided to spend that last hour scouring the internet a little for information on this very topic to see just how my views stood.

Hmmm, we both know there wasn't going to be any valid evidence supporting your tin foil hat conspiracy!

Its not as easy as it looks because if you look up directly you end up with a lot of biased information written by white supremest types that insist that the Jews have it in for us all which is just nuts.

What was the problem, that sounds just like what you were looking for to support your case???!!!

So what I had to do was a lot of cross referencing with some partial biased information and information that was neutral on Jewish issues and match up names.

Neutral sources - that doesn't sound good as far as your conspiracy theory is concerned!

The results weren't very conclusive under casual examination.

Yep those unbiased neutral sources will get you every time!

There are indeed a lot of Jews in very influential positions.

What do you expect from a society based on Christianity which is fundamentally dependent on its Jewish roots!

Its almost disproportionate when compared against their non-Jewish peers.

I am not sure if you can begrudge religious types for being successful!

I was also quite surprised to see a lot of Asian names popping up as well.

Do you have a theory on that for us to read????

I also looked up a couple articles here and there that discussed the issue directly but with a more objective tone and it seems to me that what I was saying all through this thread had a ring of truth to it.

Without sources I cannot accept that point!!!

It was mostly true in the 1900s and before.

That wouldn't have been in the lead up to World War II would it???

It seems that there are other players entering the game and slowly displacing Jewish hegemony of many large organizations, most notably media companies. Jews themselves are also eroding this by marrying "gentiles" and in one article, it even said that some Jews are doing notably "un-Jewish" things or to put it more correctly, aren't really identifying with their Jewish roots as strongly as their ancestors. In other words, they're Jews in name only.

Well that sounds like start of the end of your conspiracy right there!

I am going to let this discussion die before it makes enemies of us.

Really, we were are all looking forwards to reading your bullet proof sources!

I'm not conceding anything but its clear that my points need further refinement and it should be backed by citations from respected sources.

Yep!

I can do that, but it will take hours upon hours of reading and cross referencing

U sure abt that mister?

and to be honest, I have better things to do.

Well in that case you should back down from your position until then!!!!!

I got a couple unfinished projects that need that precious time. Perhaps when I'm not bogged down these unfinished projects, I can revisit this topic with a more finely tuned rhetoric. So for the time being, lets just agree to disagree and remain cordial.

We are all looking forward to version 2.0 of your Global Jewish criminal conspiracy theory complete with free tin foil hat; however, I have a strong feeling it won't make it that far!

[Jacob Roman]

Jesus Christ, whats with me creating chit chat threads that turn into super threads?

/slaps self in the hopes I'd knock myself out

[Niya]

R.O.F.L!!!!! The last time I was forced to read insanities like your anti-Jewish rants would have to have been in ThEiMp's threads!
Hmmm, we both know there wasn't going to be any valid evidence supporting your tin foil hat conspiracy!......

I wonder, if I had been arguing the position that Roman society was a cruel and barbaric society instead of an enlightened one, would you have wanted to hang me so badly for being anti-Roman ? Nah....The Jews are special. Hitler killed 6 million of them and everyone is still butthurt over that so now they're above reproach....lest anyone thinks you're another Hitler....that's how it goes right ? Someone says, "hey, seems there are a lot of Jews running things" and people like you, trained attack dogs, unleash your fangs and start barking "Jew hater", "anti-Semite", "bigot", "racist". Hmmmm.....

Look, its very clear to me that you're a Jew worshiping sycophant and while my arguments may not have been very clear, it doesn't matter. Even if I presented a much stronger case complete with citations from respectable sources, you would still insist that I'm the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. Like all zealots, you are heavily guarded against any notion that could force you to abandon any comfortable preconceived ideas you may hold. Debating with you is like debating with devout Christians, a total waste of time.

It was Shaggy's interruption of our little bantering that made me push the brakes. He's quite a reasonable individual and as such it lent weight to this decision. If he was watching this, then its possible that other more reasonable members are also watching and they deserve a better prepared debate than this train wreck. Also, continuing this would lead to only one outcome, this thread, locked because sycophants like you drive me insane.

[Niya]

Jesus Christ, whats with me creating chit chat threads that turn into super threads?

/slaps self in the hopes I'd knock myself out

You certainly got a knack for attracting lightning.

[dee-u]

You guys should drink Mountain Jew in the meantime...

[Witis]

I wonder, if I had been arguing the position that Roman society was a cruel and barbaric society instead of an enlightened one, would you have wanted to hang me so badly for being anti-Roman ?

It would really depend on how you present your case as ancient Roman society also had many classic features of a pre-civilised society!

The Jews are special. Hitler killed 6 million of them and everyone is still butthurt over that so now they're above reproach....lest anyone thinks you're another Hitler....that's how it goes right ?

There is definitely some widespread empathy for the Jewish plight given the relatively recent time-frame involved, which you should definitely take into account!

Someone says, "hey, seems there are a lot of Jews running things" and people like you, trained attack dogs, unleash your fangs and start barking "Jew hater", "anti-Semite", "bigot", "racist".

Even though I am not a dog, I'll take that as a compliment!

Hmmmm.....Look, its very clear to me that you're a Jew worshiping sycophant

Compared to other religions focusing on practices such as human sacrifice and cannibalism the Jewish religions including Christianity have many redeeming features!

and while my arguments may not have been very clear, it doesn't matter. Even if I presented a much stronger case complete with citations from respectable sources, you would still insist that I'm the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler.

Dunno, first you will have to provide some solid citations and respectable sources!

Like all zealots,

I wouldn't go that far!!

you are heavily guarded against any notion that could force you to abandon any comfortable preconceived ideas you may hold.

Nah, you just need to come up with something better than rabble rousing and fear mongering!!!

Debating with you is like debating with devout Christians, a total waste of time.

Couldn't troll them either???

It was Shaggy's interruption of our little bantering that made me push the brakes. He's quite a reasonable individual and as such it lent weight to this decision. If he was watching this, then its possible that other more reasonable members are also watching and they deserve a better prepared debate than this train wreck.

Yep they do, although it has had it moments!

Also, continuing this would lead to only one outcome, this thread, locked because sycophants like you drive me insane.

I firmly believe you managed to get there all by yourself!!!!!

[Niya]

You guys should drink Mountain Jew in the meantime...

lol....clever.

[Witis]

Jesus Christ, whats with me creating chit chat threads that turn into super threads?

Well, you did ask for rants!

/slaps self in the hopes I'd knock myself out

Do I detect a slight anti Roman Catholic sentiment?
I bet that most Italians have no clue that the Pope is an absolute monarch and a threat to global freedom!

[Witis]

I prefer cola!

[Witis]

For Niya: How to make a tin foil hat to improve your reception!!!!!

[Niya]

It would really depend on how you present your case as ancient Roman society also had many classic features of a pre-civilised society!

You're not a Roman worshiper too are you ? That's even worse than a Jewish sycophant.

There is definitely some widespread empathy for the Jewish plight given the relatively recent time-frame involved, which you should definitely take into account!

You can kiss my ass with that nonsense. I'm not doing anything of the sort. A 2 second Google search will reveal any number of appalling atrocities being committed today. Even the Jewish state of Israel is pitching in. Where's the empathy for the poor souls suffering under these conditions. The holocaust happened close to a century ago. Yet lapdog sycophants like you refuse to let it go. Its insulting to imply the need for special treatment when it comes to victims of the holocaust.

Even though I am not a dog, I'll take that as a compliment!

Fine by me.

Compared to other religions focusing on practices such as human sacrifice and cannibalism the Jewish religions including Christianity have many redeeming features!

Huh ??? Is your brain working properly ?

Dunno, first you will have to provide some solid citations and respectable sources!

lol...Logic never means anything to a zealot. It would be wasted effort if its only to sway you.

Nah, you just need to come up with something better than rabble rousing and fear mongering!!!

You're easily scared ? Why am I not surprised.

Couldn't troll them either???

You're the troll here my friend.

I firmly believe you managed to get there all by yourself!!!!!

You're the one that keeps prolonging this bullshit.

[Witis]

You're not a Roman worshiper too are you ? That's even worse that a Jewish sycophant.

So if you are not into the classics tell me what are YOU into Niya???

You can kiss my ass with that nonsense. I'm not doing anything of the sort.

Such unfounded blatant hostility towards the Jews; have you no soul, no sympathy, or is that for weaklings???!!!

A 2 second Google search will reveal any number of appalling atrocities being committed today. Even the Jewish state of Israel is pitching in. Where's the empathy for the poor souls suffering under these conditions. The holocaust happened close to a century ago. Yet lapdog sycophants like you refuse to let it go. Its insulting to imply the need for special treatment when it comes to victims of the holocaust.

Dude the difference is things like the atrocious medical experiments which still, to this very day, stand out as some of the worst ever abuses of humans on the planet!

Huh ??? Is your brain working properly ?

Sure is mister! How 'bout u???

lol...Logic never means anything to a zealot. It would be wasted effort if its only to sway you.

Let me write that down... "Logic is wasted effort"-Niya

You're easily scared ? Why am I not surprised.

Do you think you would succeed where Hitler failed???

You're the troll here my friend.

How do you figure that that is not a libelous statement???

You're the one that keeps prolonging this bullshit.

Language Niya, you know better than that!

[Witis]

B.T.W did you like the tin foil hat vid?

[Niya]

So if you are not into the classics tell me what are YOU into Niya???

Butting heads with illogical zealotry.

Such unfounded blatant hostility towards the Jews; have you no soul, no sympathy, or is that for weaklings???!!!

I have no more empathy for them than I do for the many slaughtered by the Roman Empire, the Golden Horde, the Ottomon Empire, the Persian Empire, the Han dynasty, Alexander the Great, Cyrus the Great or Saladin. Tell me again, what makes the holocaust so special ?

Dude the difference is things like the atrocious medical experiments which still, to this very day, stand out as some of the worst ever abuses of humans on the planet!

WORST EVER ON THE PLANET !!! ARE YOU ****IN KIDDING ME !!! ? THIS IS THE MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENT I'VE EVER READ!!!

Sure is mister! How 'bout u???


Let me write that down... "Logic is wasted effort"-Niya

lol....I'm not even gonna.....

Do you think you would succeed where Hitler failed???

Extermination of the Jews is no desire of mine. You're the one on a witch hunt, not me.

[Niya]

B.T.W did you like the tin foil hat vid?

About as much as I like debating half-wits.

[Witis]

Butting heads with illogical zealotry.

Is that on Bible Chat City or your favorite, Teamliquid.net???


[QUOTE=Niya;4423625]I have no more empathy for them than I do for the many slaughtered by the Roman Empire, the Golden Horde, the Ottomon Empire, the Persian Empire, the Han dynasty, Alexander the Great, Cyrus the Great or Saladin. Tell me again, what makes the holocaust so special ?
The medical experimentation!

WORST EVER ON THE PLANET !!! ARE YOU ****IN KIDDING ME !!! ? THIS IS THE MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENT I'VE EVER READ!!!

Easy, easy, it is fairly widely accepted that the medical experiments carried out on the Jews by the Nazi's are some of the most atrocious in history!

lol....I'm not even gonna.....

See you were funny!

Extermination of the Jews is no desire of mine.

U absolutely sure abt that mister?

You're the one on a witch hunt, not me.

I prefer the modern justice system!

[Witis]

About as much as I like debating half-wits.

But the reception gains!

[Niya]

Is that on Bible Chat City or your favorite, Teamliquid.net???

I'm actually flattered you remembered such details about me. My favorite is Teamliquid. Every member of that site is as unreasonable as you....Hell they're worse than you.

Easy, easy, it is fairly widely accepted that the medical experiments carried out on the Jews by the Nazi's are some of the most atrocious in history!

This is how I know for a 100% fact that you're a brainwashed sycophant. Ever heard of the Brazen Bull ? I'd much rather have a kookie doctor sticking needles in my ass than suffer the Brazen Bull. In my mind, the Brazen Bull is the most terrifying form of torture to death. The point of telling you this is to illustrate to you that severity of certain acts is purely subjective. By saying that the medical experiments of the Nazi's are the worst of the worst, you're basically parroting somebody else's subjective musing. "They" want you accept that objectively. Don't bother asking me who "they" are because I don't really know. For brevity's sake, lets say the mainstream media.

[Witis]

I'm actually flattered you remembered such details about me. My favorite is Teamliquid. Every member of that site is as unreasonable as you....Hell they're worse than you.

L.O.L worse than me, surely not???

This is how I know for a 100% fact that you're a brainwashed sycophant. Ever heard of the Brazen Bull ? I'd much rather have a kookie doctor sticking needles in my ass than suffer the Brazen Bull.

Really you should read about the Nazi experiments, being roasted for half an hour sound like an nice way to go by comparison!

In my mind, the Brazen Bull is the most terrifying form of torture to death.

Why is the brazen bull any worse than say the cross where men were left to suffer for days on end?

The point of telling you this is to illustrate to you that severity of certain acts is purely subjective.

Not convinced, I think there is some objectivity that can be applied in determining the worst forms of torture.

By saying that the medical experiments of the Nazi's are the worst of the worst, you're basically parroting somebody else's subjective musing.

While it's true that I have to accept someone else's description of the events rather than being there myself I would never squawk or even screech about what I read!

"They" want you accept that objectively. Don't bother asking me who "they" are because I don't really know. For brevity's sake, lets say the mainstream media.

Sure I presume "they" are medical reporters or doctors, why would you not accept their professional assessments?

[Niya]

L.O.L worse than me, surely not???

Yes, believe it or not, those morons actually make you look quite good.

Really you should read about the Nazi experiments, being roasted for half an hour sound like an nice way to go by comparison!

Well some of the experiments do imply long term suffering and I will concede that on that point. Better to suffer for a half-hour than an indefinite amount of time that could possibly add up to months.

Why is the brazen bull any worse than say the cross where men were left to suffer for days on end?

Are you kidding me, I'd chose in a heart beat to be nailed to a cross if the only alternative is the Brazen Bull. The Brazen Bull stirs untold terror deep in my soul.

Not convinced, I think there is some objectivity that can be applied in determining the worst forms of torture.

I'll be willing to concede this, if the length of time is one of the metrics used. Otherwise, all times being equal, what is worse is subjective.

While it's true that I have to accept someone else's description of the events rather than being there myself I would never squawk or even screech about what I read!

See...this is what causes arguments. When you read this stuff be mindful of the author or story teller's own subjectivity.

Sure I presume "they" are medical reporters or doctors, why would you not accept their professional assessments?

No amount of medical know-how is gonna convince me that the crucifixion is worse than the Brazen Bull. Fear is not rational, and again, subjective.

[Shaggy Hiker]

On the off chance that I'm the one that's crazy, I decided to spend that last hour scouring the internet a little for information on this very topic to see just how my views stood. Its not as easy as it looks because if you look up directly you end up with a lot of biased information written by white supremest types that insist that the Jews have it in for us all which is just nuts. So what I had to do was a lot of cross referencing with some partial biased information and information that was neutral on Jewish issues and match up names.

That pretty much answers your question as to what would constitute valid evidence. Pretty much everything you said confirmed what I always thought: Jews WERE dominant in some financial areas for reasons that are oddly rooted in their persecution through the centuries, but that dominance has been fading. You also appear to have confirmed the Google bias I expected where the majority of sites would be supremecist rantings.

I was also quite surprised to see a lot of Asian names popping up as well.

I'm not. If you were to take a random sample around the globe (which Google is not, but it's pretty global), you should see the remnants of some asian isolationism, the 70s Japanese expansion, and other such effects. I would expect it to be regional, on a global scale, but I would expect that Google would not show the regionalism.

I also looked up a couple articles here and there that discussed the issue directly but with a more objective tone and it seems to me that what I was saying all through this thread had a ring of truth to it.

Was it the one ring? If so, you may have to go on an epic quest with a furry companion (perhaps Jacob Roman, in fact, and I won't go on about your other follower) to drop it into the fires of the Mountain of Doom (or just play Doom while dropping it into a Hibachi) before this thread can die.

[Jacob Roman]

You're not a Roman worshiper too are you ? That's even worse than a Jewish sycophant.

I knew it! I am a God!!!

[_God_]

I knew it! I am a God!!!

There shalt be only one God. You shalt not worship any other gods but me.

[dunfiddlin]

Typical. You wait ages for a God to go by and then two turn up at the same time!

[Niya]

Witis, you old sore on my ass, where have you gone ? I'm getting bored. Wanna go round two for Romans this time ?

[Witis]

Witis, you old sore on my ass, where have you gone ? I'm getting bored. Wanna go round two for Romans this time ?

Sure, if you have version 2 available, I'll take a look at it!!!!

[Niya]

Oh there you are. Been too quite around here....I'm bringing in the nukes this time, no more grenades. I'm gonna burn you to dust!!! lol

[Witis]

K, I is ready for all of your p0wers of deduction!!!

[dee-u]

A guy here was turning over a cat to an animal welfare group, he placed the cat in a sack, now he is in jail because of putting the cat in a sack.

[Jacob Roman]

And what would happen if I were to put a "Cat In The Hat?"

[Witis]

And what would happen if I were to put a "Cat In The Hat?"

I don't believe even a house cat would fit in any regular modern hat that I can think of!
A mouse would tho!

[Jacob Roman]

Oh Witis you fool. It was suppose to be a joke.
But since you failed to rhyme, now I must invoke.
A mouse would fit of course, but would you want it to.
After all the mean things you said about Jews.

Im not a Roman Catholic, I'm just a Roman.
Quite possibly a God. Man what crack are you smokin'.
So Mr. Witis, what are you going to do about that?
Do you intend to rhyme like The Cat in The Hat?

[Witis]

What's that you say a man called Zeus writing about cats in the house catching the mouse?
Yes it is true, that what cats always do, you had better watch out it might happen to you!

[Witis]

As for poor Seuss, I think no one told him
the titanic sank and Olympus has fallen!

[Shaggy Hiker]

JR you old fool
Don't be such a tool
When Seuss made his rhymes
He wrote in short lines

He didn't waste ink
To make people think,
But wrote nice and short
For the non-reading sort

So, when whit you defame
And less make his name
Don't mess with the cat
Right here in chit chat.

[_God_]

Witis is right!
Thouart Jews are lost.
I giveth thee chances.
It comes at a cost.

I sacrificed my son
for all of your sins.
He was also a Jew
yet thouart grin.

You createth religions,
with rules from thy flesh.
Not from thee God.
For that, ye shalt perish.

Beholdeth your creator!
The God amongst men.
Jesus was also a God
mind ye, amen.