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[FunkyDexter]

Perhaps it lies with me

Ah, finally you're on board.

[wes4dbt]

No, you think you do but you don't. I already gave a clear example with Shaggy and my statements about Covid. I explained something to you about DEI and your response indicated to me that you understood nothing I said at all. You didn't even slightly understand.

The fault doesn't lie with any of you. Perhaps it lies with me or perhaps not. Perhaps if I were more eloquent, I could make you understand or perhaps our worldviews differ too much for us to ever understand each other.

Three weeks later and your still not taking responsibility for what you said.

It's not "Perhaps it lies with me" It does lie with you.

No your example wasn't clear, it was just an unsupported claim. I have a lot of family in their 20's and 30's. If I made this statement they would think I'd went crazy. Though they probably wouldn't say it out of politeness. That's my unsupported claim. It's true but not proof of any type.

So yea, COVID was a hoax, one of the greatest hoaxes of the 21st century.

There's nothing generational about that statement.

[TysonLPrice]

Oh that's definitely not it.

Here is the problem...you are too young to know you are wrong. I'll be dead by the time you know I am right.

[Niya]

Three weeks later and your still not taking responsibility for what you said.

You completely lost me here. I have no idea what you're talking about.

There's nothing generational about that statement.

I never said there was.

Here is the problem...you are too young to know you are wrong. I'll be dead by the time you know I am right.

I can promise you that as certain as the sun is to rise tomorrow, that I will never ever come around to your worldviews. I'd rather die than ever accept any of it.

[TysonLPrice]

You completely lost me here. I have no idea what you're talking about.



I never said there was.



I can promise you that as certain as the sun is to rise tomorrow, that I will never ever come around to your worldviews. I'd rather die than ever accept any of it.

That reminds me of a joke...When I was a eighteen I realized my parents didn't know anything about life. Then when I twenty-one I realized how much they knew. I wondered how they learned so much in three years

[wes4dbt]

Here is the problem...you are too young to know you are wrong. I'll be dead by the time you know I am right.

I don't think it has to do with age. You don't have to be very old to admit you made a false statement. Instead he chose to blame others for not extracting a completely different meaning from what he said, even though that meaning doesn't come close to matching his words. That's just who he is and I doubt it will change with age.

[sapator]

I think that as a "hoax" he is referring on the initial facts that vaccine will stop fakevid for spreading or that children must fakecivate or that they where charging death from every kind to fakevid as much as 45% .
But I don't think it's worth the discussion as people here as as movable as flies in sht concerning that matter as the know thread shown.
For example if I post that , "Flu Now Deadlier Than COVID in California for First Time Since 2020" , I will get an immediate response that it's because people are not vaccinated as they did with fakevid that I will reply that fakevid vaccines had a test circle or Dicaprio relationship and will get "what your prof" and that's where boredom by stubbornest and old age will kick in. I mean a guy here got down to his basement the first days, how can you have a serious conversation. So yeah, maybe he is referring to that one that after 3 years is BO-RING and non need to get into it again. But he can fell free to explain, I'm not in par with those events till something of a trial come to light, if ever.

[wes4dbt]

I think that as a "hoax" he is referring on the initial facts that vaccine will stop fakevid for spreading or that children must fakecivate or that they where charging death from every kind to fakevid as much as 45% .

Niya has clarified what he meant.

For example if I post that , "Flu Now Deadlier Than COVID in California for First Time Since 2020" , I will get an immediate response that it's because people are not vaccinated as they did with fakevid that I will reply that fakevid vaccines had a test circle or Dicaprio relationship and will get "what your prof" and that's where boredom by stubbornest and old age will kick in.

"Flu" is such a vague term. COVID can be included as a Flu. But people here have been getting a yearly flu shot for over 50yrs. I don't think you'd get much argument if you made that claim. Most people have had COVID, been vaccinated or both and have developed their immune system to fight it. It's just another flu. To be honest I haven't looked at any recent data so that's just a guess.

I don't think anyone here is looking to rehash what happened with COVID. As you said no one is movable on their beliefs.

[TysonLPrice]

I don't think it has to do with age. You don't have to be very old to admit you made a false statement. Instead he chose to blame others for not extracting a completely different meaning from what he said, even though that meaning doesn't come close to matching his words. That's just who he is and I doubt it will change with age.

I was speaking about our interactions/threads in general.

[Niya]

Niya has clarified what he meant.

Sap gets it. I didn't have to clarify anything for him. Even if we aren't on the same page, he at least understood exactly where I am coming from. Though I never mentioned anything about children or fiddling with death rate stats, what is important is that he understands that I am referring to the false narrative created around it, meant to scare us into submission. We don't have to agree on every detail, and I'm quite sure he knows a lot more about this than I do but I get the sense that we both recognize there is something foul in the mix here. That is what is important as far as I'm concerned.

[Shaggy Hiker]

but I get the sense that we both recognize there is something foul in the mix here. That is what is important as far as I'm concerned.

It is spelled "fowl", and that would be the bird flu.

[Niya]

It is spelled "fowl", and that would be the bird flu.

[TysonLPrice]

It is spelled "fowl", and that would be the bird flu.

Anyone can "foul-up" once in a while...

[dilettante]

Welcome to the Golden Age.

Victor Davis Hanson: First 100 Days of Trump’s Counter Revolution


You wouldn't know it though, from the radically biased fear-mongering media coverage.

[FunkyDexter]

Every time I see these puns I think "Wattle they come out with next"

[Shaggy Hiker]

Welcome to the Golden Age.


You wouldn't know it though, from the radically biased fear-mongering media coverage.

You wouldn't know it from the shelves emptying of goods, the negative economic growth, the collapse in consumer confidence, the videos of the empty Pacific ports, and so on, either.

[dilettante]

You wouldn't know it from the shelves emptying of goods, the negative economic growth, the collapse in consumer confidence, the videos of the empty Pacific ports, and so on, either.

Surely you realize that none of that is true?

The TRUTH about Trump's economy is now coming out, and the MSM spin is amazing


Perhaps FEMA resources should be applied to treatment centers for crippling cases of TDS?

[PlausiblyDamp]

Surely you realize that none of that is true?

The TRUTH about Trump's economy is now coming out, and the MSM spin is amazing


Perhaps FEMA resources should be applied to treatment centers for crippling cases of TDS?

When you resort to using the word truth in all caps you are just sounding desperate; random youtube videos aren't really disproving financial and economic experts in this matter. I know anything Trump says you will take as truth, but have you ever considered a person who has repeatedly lied, been proven in court to have lied, will lie to benefit himself at the expense of friends and family, just might not be a honest and trustworthy person? Just a thought...

[dilettante]

When you resort to using the word truth in all caps you are just sounding desperate; random youtube videos aren't really disproving financial and economic experts in this matter.

"Random videos" hmm? "Experts?" What a load of tripe. Be honest, you fear the facts and cling desperately to the narrative fed to you by captive media outlets.

Funny when it comes from a place circling the drain faster than most.

[PlausiblyDamp]

"Random videos" hmm? "Experts?" What a load of tripe. Be honest, you fear the facts and cling desperately to the narrative fed to you by captive media outlets.

Funny when it comes from a place circling the drain faster than most.

Be honest you just fear the facts and cling desperately to the narrative fed to you by the Republican media outlets and supporters.

[wes4dbt]

Welcome to the Golden Age.

If you desire instability and chaos then your Golden Age has arrived.

Be honest, you fear the facts and cling desperately to the narrative fed to you by captive media outlets.

"captive"??? How???

There's multiple media choices for any point of view now a days. A person can find a validating media source for about any point of view. Then there is a choice to not pay attention to any of them. So, "captive", I don't see how.

[dilettante]

Some of us have to live in the real world.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Some of us have to live in the real world.

Good thing you're not one of them, right?

[PlausiblyDamp]

Some of us have to live in the real world.

So in your real world is it acceptable for the Whitehouse to post an AI generated picture of the pope? Only asking because I thought Trump turning up to the Pope's funeral in a blue suit was pretty disrespectful - but this is a level of either insanity or disrespect (or both) I couldn't even of imagined before seeing it....



Not sure how anyone can quite justify this from their leader, however I am sure you will find a personal justification somehow.

Just a few links about this, just for the record.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-funeral.html
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...al/ar-AA1E6cIW
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/347803...p-pope-ai-pic/
https://www.lbc.co.uk/usa/politics/d...francis-photo/
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-pos...ocial-13360403
https://www.politico.eu/article/whit...ld-trump-pope/
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-post...074533909.html
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2...e-picture.html

and some from youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L60d8bWE7Kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc1f1JXwilE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKBuaToTHcM

[Shaggy Hiker]

That's not surprising. The robe combines his two favorite colors: White and gold.

I was actually wondering if he was thinking that before I even saw your post.

[PlausiblyDamp]

That's not surprising. The robe combines his two favorite colors: White and gold.

I was actually wondering if he was thinking that before I even saw your post.

I obviously have a low opinion of Trump, but the fact he can constantly find ways to lower it even further is quite impressive.

Partly I find the blatant hypocrisy baffling...

* His party criticised Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit - then he turns up at a funeral in a blue suit, something anyone should know is disrespectful.
* He is the master of the deal, but has bankrupted multiple business and multiple casinos
* Good economy under Biden is because everyone know he would be the next president, bad economy under Trump is because of Biden.
* Clinton using a private email server deserves jail, military secrets being leaked on signal to a) a journalist, and b) to friends and family, also c) his sodding wife being present in secret meetings is perfectly normal government activity.

Just utterly baffling.

[FunkyDexter]

I am sure you will find a personal justification somehow

They've already managed to justify his deportation of 2 year old, cancer suffering, American citizens without due process. If you're waiting to see where the line is, there isn't one.

[PlausiblyDamp]

They've already managed to justify his deportation of 2 year old, cancer suffering, American citizens without due process. If you're waiting to see where the line is, there isn't one.

Just roll a die and the answer will be the number, doesn't really matter what the question is.

1 - Illegal immigrants are gang members, millions and millions of which were shipped in by the Dems.
2 - DEI / WOKE (no other justification needed)
3 - Bidens economy did it.
4 - DOGE is doing it and Elon is a genius so it all makes sense.
5 - Tariffs will fix it all anyway.
6 - Subsidising Canada with $200 billion dollars a year is the problem so we need to invade them, Panama, and Greenland to fix it.

[wes4dbt]

I obviously have a low opinion of Trump, but the fact he can constantly find ways to lower it even further is quite impressive.

Partly I find the blatant hypocrisy baffling...

* His party criticised Zelenskyy for not wearing a suit - then he turns up at a funeral in a blue suit, something anyone should know is disrespectful.
* He is the master of the deal, but has bankrupted multiple business and multiple casinos
* Good economy under Biden is because everyone know he would be the next president, bad economy under Trump is because of Biden.
* Clinton using a private email server deserves jail, military secrets being leaked on signal to a) a journalist, and b) to friends and family, also c) his sodding wife being present in secret meetings is perfectly normal government activity.

Just utterly baffling.

I don't find Trump baffling anymore. He has consistently been a totally self absorbed, morally bankrupt, con man, all his adult life. What I find baffling is that ANYONE would believe ANYTHING he says. Much less, actually be a Trump supporter. The fact that 50% of the voters thought it would be a good idea to elect him president again makes no sense to me.

But here we are.

[PlausiblyDamp]

I don't find Trump baffling anymore. He has consistently been a totally self absorbed, morally bankrupt, con man, all his adult life. What I find baffling is that ANYONE would believe ANYTHING he says. Much less, actually be a Trump supporter. The fact that 50% of the voters thought it would be a good idea to elect him president again makes no sense to me.

But here we are.

That is exactly what I meant, how anyone can look at him and think "I know he has lied to and cheated every single person or company he has been involved with, including his own wives, and will do anything for personal gain; but I just know he wouldn't lie to me or treat me badly". Yet, like you say, enough people voted based on that belief.

[Shaggy Hiker]

There's video of a "cabinet meeting" where Pam Bondi reports that the reduction in fentanyl in his first 100 days has saved the lives of about 245 million Americans.

I can't quite decide who was being played in that one. Did she not realize that was about 75% of the US population, or did she realize the number was absurd, but know that he wouldn't figure that out? He certainly didn't say anything about that, though he has yet to crow about it to the media, so perhaps somebody pointed out the ridiculousness of that number.

It wasn't really a cabinet meeting, anyways, in any normal sense, as there were some odd faces at the table. Maybe his cabinet really does include family?

[dilettante]

They've already managed to justify his deportation of 2 year old, cancer suffering, American citizens without due process. If you're waiting to see where the line is, there isn't one.

Your head is squarely up the wrong end of your liberal media.

Attorneys for the mothers and their children who were sent to Honduras are blasting Trump administration officials, saying the deportations of three U.S. citizen children over the weekend, including the 4-year-old boy who left without access to his cancer medicines, are illegal. They’re pushing back against statements that the families chose for the children to go with their mothers.

On Monday, Trump administration border “czar” Tom Homan said the three U.S. citizen children, all under 10 years old, were placed on deportation flights at their mothers’ request. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has said the children weren’t deported but “went with their mothers,” adding that as citizens they could come back if there's someone in the United States who "wants to assume them."

The "citizens" involved are what are called "anchor babies." That game no longer works.

[dilettante]

I don't find Trump baffling anymore. He has consistently been a totally self absorbed, morally bankrupt, con man, all his adult life. What I find baffling is that ANYONE would believe ANYTHING he says. Much less, actually be a Trump supporter. The fact that 50% of the voters thought it would be a good idea to elect him president again makes no sense to me.

Actually substantially more than 50%, but how much more we don't know. Nobody has seen the need to examine the election rigging of 2024.

[dilettante]

So in your real world is it acceptable for the Whitehouse to post an AI generated picture of the pope?

Of course it is. But people who still lick the boots of the inbred remnants of a Medieval aristocracy in their own country can't be expected to comprehend that.

The humorless radical left even less so. Jokes are lost on Bolshevists.

[wes4dbt]

Well Dil, your responses are consistent, your usual,

Your head is squarely up the wrong end of your liberal media.

Insults

Actually substantially more than 50%, but how much more we don't know. Nobody has seen the need to examine the election rigging of 2024.

Conspiracy theories

Of course it is. But people who still lick the boots of the inbred remnants of a Medieval aristocracy in their own country can't be expected to comprehend that.

More insults

The humorless radical left even less so. Jokes are lost on Bolshevists.

And more insults.

All very colorful but as usual no substance.

[sapator]

What is insulting is that people here that did not care to comment or commend "meh" responses about the Pope's death insulting threat, to be religiously insulted now that the WH posted the picture.
From what I get, tho haven't been following the WH do that for every occasion. P.E. : https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whi...ing-lightsaber
Also what is insulting is WOKE babies that ridiculed every aspect of Christianity religion with pictures of the Virgin Mary in their "crumps" on they gay pride marches , comic Jesus adaptations, gay saints on Olympics and every other insult possible on Christianity, to be insulted. That makes me wanna horse laugh (find the reference) .
But keyboard warriors got to keyb as they can't do anything else but wine wine wine.

[PlausiblyDamp]

What is insulting is that people here that did not care to comment or commend "meh" responses about the Pope's death insulting threat, to be religiously insulted now that the WH posted the picture.
From what I get, tho haven't been following the WH do that for every occasion. P.E. : https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whi...ing-lightsaber
Also what is insulting is WOKE babies that ridiculed every aspect of Christianity religion with pictures of the Virgin Mary in their "crumps" on they gay pride marches , comic Jesus adaptations, gay saints on Olympics and every other insult possible on Christianity, to be insulted. That makes me wanna horse laugh (find the reference) .
But keyboard warriors got to keyb as they can't do anything else but wine wine wine.

Wow, "every occasion" so the popes death and May the 4th are "every occasion" - good to see how you can justify a world leader effectively mocking the death of a religious leader, and a sort of joke regarding a movie franchise as being comparable.

But any excuse to claim something is "WOKE" must be taken.

[PlausiblyDamp]

Actually substantially more than 50%, but how much more we don't know. Nobody has seen the need to examine the election rigging of 2024.

If you ignore conspiracy theories it is actually just under 49% according to most sources - but MSM is evil and hates the TRUTH, so it is probably closer to 99.7% in reality...

The "citizens" involved are what are called "anchor babies." That game no longer works.

Putting "citizens" in "quotes" doesn't actually change their legal standing, whatever your personal opinion is - try and be honest and admit that they are citizens or had the legal right to live in the US.

So if a person is legally allowed to live in the US should they not be allowed to have children? What are you proposing, sterilisation on entry? They were legally allowed to live in the US, they were legally allowed to have children, the children were legal US citizens. Think about this, that means a legal US citizen who is also a minor can now be deported without any due process, so where is the line drawn on which legal citizens can or cannot be deported?

Of course it is. But people who still lick the boots of the inbred remnants of a Medieval aristocracy in their own country can't be expected to comprehend that.

The humorless radical left even less so. Jokes are lost on Bolshevists.

You really are a hateful, spite-filled individual. Is there any race, religion, or people you don't spout hate and vitriol about? Obviously that doesn't include trump and his mob - because why would anyone criticise a convicted fraudster, known liar, convicted sex offender, sexist, racist, misogynistic, adulterer, and repeated bankrupt? That kind of person is worthy of total obedience, his word is truth and truth is his word.

[sapator]

I did not justify it , I wasn't even asked. For me it was a foul on the Pope.
But cleverly skip everything I wrote and concentrate on the matter and screaming 'WOKE AGAIN!" won't save you on all the insult that WOKE boys have done to Christianity. I don't mean you personally on this btw but I do mean you and others here that protest, that whistled in the rain when the anti Pop thread was going on.
I find this insulting to our intelligence (well whatever left from reading thread like this :P ) and proschematic . So "wow" back at ya.

[Niya]

I don't find Trump baffling anymore. He has consistently been a totally self absorbed, morally bankrupt, con man, all his adult life. What I find baffling is that ANYONE would believe ANYTHING he says. Much less, actually be a Trump supporter. The fact that 50% of the voters thought it would be a good idea to elect him president again makes no sense to me.

But here we are.

That is exactly what I meant, how anyone can look at him and think "I know he has lied to and cheated every single person or company he has been involved with, including his own wives, and will do anything for personal gain; but I just know he wouldn't lie to me or treat me badly". Yet, like you say, enough people voted based on that belief.

It's baffling because you're asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking isn't why did people vote for Trump. You should be asking why are the people rejecting the Democrats.