Post election prediction

[PlausiblyDamp]

This is probably the most disturbing thing that's happening to me.

With almost all the Republican members of congress afraid to oppose anything he does it's hard to say what our government will be like in a few years.

I wouldn't even like to guess at how things will change in your country, unfortunately I think it will definitely change the USA's standing on the world stage - I can't see your current (but possibly not for much longer) allies forgiving the tariffs, the giving in to Putin, Vance's anti Europe rant, etc. Relations are going to take a long time to fix.

I can see Trump's attitude seriously impacting the USA's cost of living and trade arrangements, while also giving another country (probably China) the chance to replace it in regards to status and trade.

[sapator]

Good to see that under the new Presidency that Russia is now your friend (whatever happened to communism being bad?) but Europe (in general), Panama, Canada, Denmark, Greenland, Germany (seemingly specifically), and Ukraine are now the enemy.

If I don't know what I'm talking about then imagine (didn't want go do there but you provoke me) what we read above.

Russia is communist , Panama and Canada is in Europe or Denmark, Greenland and Germany is not in Europe, you decide and Ukraine is the Enemy of Trump.

Also how do you put Europe as a woker? I can tell you about Greece that we are not against Russia same goes for other countries of Europe, so stop insulting us and also get your geography straight before you start pointing the finger.

[PlausiblyDamp]

Something interesting I just read elsewhere online...

Trump has set himself up as a neutral 3rd party who can negotiate peace between Russia and Ukraine.

Trump has now gone on record as calling Zelenskyy a dictator, and said he had "better move fast" or he "won’t have a country left", how on earth can he now still claim neutrality regarding the conflict? Surely his recent outburst effectively disqualifies him from the position of negotiator.

[Shaggy Hiker]

How can he claim anything? Trump says whatever he feels sounds good at the moment. Why bother pointing out that he's lying? Even when he tells the truth, it is only because it is convenient at the moment. The common root is that it is convenient to the moment, not whether it is true or false.

[wes4dbt]

Russia is communist , Panama and Canada is in Europe or Denmark, Greenland and Germany is not in Europe, you decide and Ukraine is the Enemy of Trump.

That's not what PD said, not even close. Hopefully due to the language barrier.

I can tell you about Greece that we are not against Russia same goes for other countries of Europe, so stop insulting us and also get your geography straight before you start pointing the finger.

As of 2024, only 28% of Greeks have a favorable view of Russia, while 70% have a negative opinion.

I was unable to find anything that supports Greece being pro Russia. Though it does seem Greece tries to maintain a stable relationship with Russia and there are some religious bonds between the two countries.

[sapator]

First who appointed you negotiator? We are indulging in fine "conflicts" with Plu , what's your deal?
Second it goes to saw the "whatever I read is the truth" . Pal, I live here, so don't even try it.
Also Trump can do whatever as long as we have peace. Or you just don't want peace because Trump is negotiating. Zelensky is a dictator and clown and an idiot. Again Trump is reading sapator.

[wes4dbt]

First who appointed you negotiator? We are indulging in fine "conflicts" with Plu , what's your deal?

If you want a private "conflict" then use PM, not an open forum.

Pal, I live here, so don't even try it

Why not?? You are continuously tell people in the US what's really going on in the US.

Also Trump can do whatever as long as we have peace.

So if Trump negotiate peace by giving Russia half of Greece, that's OK. As long as there is peace.

[dilettante]

Jordan Peterson - Why the Elites Went Hard Left

[sapator]

If you want a private "conflict" then use PM, not an open forum.

You popped like a trud but sure, you added a post

Why not?? You are continuously tell people in the US what's really going on in the US.

Irrelevant whatever, did I say that US people are 28% with Ukraine and 70% with Russia? (that's your totals, so) but again, you added a post.A trud post since we have long bonds with Russia but again, you added a post

So if Trump negotiate peace by giving Russia half of Greece, that's OK. As long as there is peace.

We are not at war, the example is whatever irrelevant, we can extend it to any country vs any country, but again, you added a post.

[wes4dbt]

You popped like a trud but sure, you added a post




Irrelevant whatever, did I say that US people are 28% with Ukraine and 70% with Russia? (that's your totals, so) but again, you added a post.A trud post since we have long bonds with Russia but again, you added a post




We are not at war, the example is whatever irrelevant, we can extend it to any country vs any country, but again, you added a post.

A lot of noise but no information.

did I say that US people are 28% with Ukraine and 70% with Russia? (that's your totals, so)

That's not my totals. I didn't do the research. If you have some relevant information then share it. Spouting "trud", "irrelevant" adds nothing.

We are not at war

So what?? You said,

Also Trump can do whatever as long as we have peace.

So is that true or not??

Or is the truth, your OK with Trump giving away part of Ukaine but not part of Greece?

[sapator]

What info do you like? That we are not against Russia?Lol. Won't bother, we are against Russia, walk proudly up and down the stairs.
The other are hypothetical scenarios in order to extract something of Trump must not negotiate so , pat pat.

[sapator]

Oh darn. But that was expected from everyone I guess.
Fakevid vaccine faces ban for all Americans in radical U-turn by Trump team
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...rump-team.html
Here, let me help so you won't bother writing. Terrorist murdered and health bomber also dictator sex offender Nazi, CryptoWoke peace wannabe and terrible dancer.

[wes4dbt]

What info do you like? That we are not against Russia?Lol. Won't bother, we are against Russia, walk proudly up and down the stairs.
The other are hypothetical scenarios in order to extract something of Trump must not negotiate so , pat pat.

That's what I thought. You can't provide any information because, you got nothing. Ok

[wes4dbt]

Oh darn. But that was expected from everyone I guess.
Fakevid vaccine faces ban for all Americans in radical U-turn by Trump team
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...rump-team.html
Here, let me help so you won't bother writing. Terrorist murdered and health bomber also dictator sex offender Nazi, CryptoWoke peace wannabe and terrible dancer.

It's no bother.

With JFK Jr. as health secretary it's not surprising that vaccine misinformation is on the rise. I would be surprised if there actually was a ban on the COVID vaccine. But I've been surprised before.

The article didn't mention anything about "fakevid vaccine", in fact I couldn't find where the word "fake" was used at all. But I did find this in the article,

The mRNA vaccines made by Moderna and Pfizer are estimated to have saved tens of millions of lives globally, including 3million in the US.

Thanks

[TysonLPrice]

Trump is now calling Zelenskyy a dictator that started the war and is repeating Russian talking points. Russian media is celebrating. What a 180 this country took. But when you give a President a "mandate" you cut him loose.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/19/tru...ine-russia-war

[PlausiblyDamp]

Trump is now calling Zelenskyy a dictator that started the war and is repeating Russian talking points. Russian media is celebrating. What a 180 this country took. But when you give a President a "mandate" you cut him loose.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/19/tru...ine-russia-war

He also called himself a king as well... https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1892...imagery-021013

[sapator]

This is a poll at July 2024 about what EU think of the war, the opinions are scattered so even then the EU was not giving full support and also the survey is on a bias organization aka EU but even so.
https://ecfr.eu/wp-content/uploads/2...Ukraine-v2.pdf

So EU (not Europe, EU survey) is not on a full par with Ukraine war.

Ah also Greece is one the left or right on the map list according to increase ammo or who will win the war etc. So we are last on EU support for Ukraine.

Edit: Per people not per sold out government

[Niya]

But the question isn't so much why the "left" is so incestually entwined with the Deep State, but why people have been so asleep at the wheel that they permitted it to be established.

This didn't happen by accident. In light of some of the things being revealed with this whole USAID scandal, I realize that I may have been seriously wrong about a lot of things. Firstly, I no longer believe that USAID is corrupt. There are just too many reasons to believe that these controversial things they were doing were deliberate. USAID may have been in fact designed to carry out acts of espionage and information warfare against foreign nations on behalf of intelligence agencies, allies and enemies alike. The weird stuff they were doing was simply a cover, something to be used in service of plausible deniability. The real scandal here is that USAID was apparently acting against the American people as well.

As for the left being so deeply entwined with the Deep State. It's not that anyone was asleep at the wheel. I'm starting to understand that the left is simply a tool for these "deep state actors". They are a blunt instrument that can be weaponized against whoever they choose. The institutional capture under taken by the far left in the West may have been funded by these covert actors so that they be wielded more effectively against their enemies. This is what "cancel culture" is, it's weapon. It's the kind of weapon you can use when sending Delta force operators in the middle of the night to assassinate you just isn't an option. It's much cleaner to "assassinate" you by funding a smear campaign against you. That's when you see words like sexism and transphobia being thrown about recklessly. That's when you see all the blogs and news sites printing the same propaganda in unison, almost as if they are being coordinated behind the scenes. This machine is designed to bludgeon you into submission, which is what apology tours are about or they can remove you from the game, which is when you see firings, resignations etc.

[sapator]

A very revealing documentations will be, (go Musk) USAID founded Internews that founder Soros organizations (mostly opensociety) to bribe channels and journalist to promote the WOKE agenda. This is know through wikileaks but opening the official documents of USAID will give us the names. We want names!
Also from what I've read USAID is possible be bribing official to push the Annan plan for Cyprus aka become a community and recognize the Turkish occupation. Hopefully we can reveal some Greek heads over there. Fingers crossed...

[Niya]

A very revealing documentations will be, (go Musk) USAID founded Internews that founder Soros organizations (mostly opensociety) to bribe channels and journalist to promote the WOKE agenda. This is know through wikileaks but opening the official documents of USAID will give us the names. We want names!
Also from what I've read USAID is possible be bribing official to push the Annan plan for Cyprus aka become a community and recognize the Turkish occupation. Hopefully we can reveal some Greek heads over there. Fingers crossed...

Yep! You get it!

[Niya]

This one's for dilettante: More fallout from Donald Trump's victory, this time in the Linux dev space:-

[dilettante]

Yeah, there are loose screws everywhere.

[Niya]

Yeah, there are loose screws everywhere.

Man, you have no idea. I've been seeing politics show up in places that I'd never have expected. My best guess is that dems and libs are so upset at Trump's victory that they cannot simply lick their wounds and go home. The are completely unwilling to accept the results of the election. They are starting to make a fuss, especially in places where they'd normally behave. They've gone completely mad. I've even heard of one instance of a forum that has zero to do with politics come right out and announce they are banning conservatives simply for being conservatives. They used to at least pretend to be willing to tolerate non-liberals but now the masks are off.

[sapator]

I've even heard of one instance of a forum that has zero to do with politics come right out and announce they are banning conservatives simply for being conservatives.

Don't give them ideas.

[TysonLPrice]

For three years most republicans supported Ukraine and condemned Russa for the invasion. Now that Trump ha turned on Ukraine you can't hardly find a republican that believed what they did before Trump won. Well maybe their beliefs haven't changed, just their moral compasses. His take over is the party is all but complete.

[FunkyDexter]

dems and libs are so upset at Trump's victory that they cannot simply lick their wounds and go home

...

They've gone completely mad

The conspiratorial thinking on display here is getting truly astonishing.

[PlausiblyDamp]

For three years most republicans supported Ukraine and condemned Russa for the invasion. Now that Trump ha turned on Ukraine you can't hardly find a republican that believed what they did before Trump won. Well maybe their beliefs haven't changed, just their moral compasses. His take over is the party is all but complete.

It is no longer a political party, it is more and more like a cult; Trump is the cult leader and his words are "Truth" if he says something then by definition it is true and must be believed. If he changes his mind then the new truth replaces the old truth. He should not be questioned (by anyone in the party, other government bodies, the legal system, foreign leaders, nobody), he is the one true voice.

[TysonLPrice]

The conspiratorial thinking on display here is getting truly astonishing.

It is just a couple of posters or so...

[Niya]

Don't give them ideas.

I don't think we have to worry about that over here as of yet. The liberals here are still somewhat reasonable. The most you get from them most times are snarky comments and some self-righteous finger-wagging. It's pretty harmless all things considered. I understand that they are passionate in their beliefs and it's clear to me that they don't really understand what their "tribe" has become.

The liberals I am talking about are a whole different breed. They are truly unhinged, completely unreasonable and devoid of all decent human conduct. Reddit and TikTok are infested with them and many can be found still on X. They are always going viral on X for their unhinged behavior. It's almost every day now. Just yesterday there was one with a young woman on TikTok who was encouraging someone to assassinate Trump and offered to send them naughty letters in jail if they succeed. Banning conservatives off a forum is the least unhinged thing they are capable of. These are the kinds of liberals you have to worry about, not anyone here.

If this site ever gets injected with new young blood, then you can worry.

[Niya]

The conspiratorial thinking on display here is getting truly astonishing.

I can live with that

[sapator]

I don't think we have to worry about that over here as of yet. The liberals here are still somewhat reasonable. The most you get from them most times are snarky comments and some self-righteous finger-wagging. It's pretty harmless all things considered. I understand that they are passionate in their beliefs and it's clear to me that they don't really understand what their "tribe" has become.

The liberals I am talking about are a whole different breed. They are truly unhinged, completely unreasonable and devoid of all decent human conduct. Reddit and TikTok are infested with them and many can be found still on X. They are always going viral on X for their unhinged behavior. It's almost every day now. Just yesterday there was one with a young woman on TikTok who was encouraging someone to assassinate Trump and offered to send them naughty letters in jail if they succeed. Banning conservatives off a forum is the least unhinged thing they are capable of. These are the kinds of liberals you have to worry about, not anyone here.

If this site ever gets injected with new young blood, then you can worry.

Assassinate Trump ?
That rings a bell.

Have a great weekend and God bless America!

[wes4dbt]

The conspiratorial thinking on display here is getting truly astonishing.

Welcome to the Delusion Fest 2025 Tour. Make sure to get your tickets NOW. It's a never ending paranoia fueled extravaganza.

[wes4dbt]

It is no longer a political party, it is more and more like a cult; Trump is the cult leader and his words are "Truth" if he says something then by definition it is true and must be believed. If he changes his mind then the new truth replaces the old truth. He should not be questioned (by anyone in the party, other government bodies, the legal system, foreign leaders, nobody), he is the one true voice.

I'd say it's like a cult when it comes to his civilian supporters but I'd say the politicians act like they support him out of fear. They wont risk their political career over a little thing like the truth.

[wes4dbt]

I can live with that

Of course you can, you have no choice. These are your people.

[Niya]

Of course you can, you have no choice. These are your people.

I mean sure. Whatever I guess.

[jpbro]

Just yesterday there was one with a young woman on TikTok who was encouraging someone to assassinate Trump and offered to send them naughty letters in jail if they succeed.

One of the positives of the new admin is free speech absolutism, so that's nice at least.

[PlausiblyDamp]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bro...f5e7a5a58f6acf

So now we see why DEI wasn't a bad thing - a black man who is more than qualified for the job has been fired, and replaced with a white man who doesn't actually meet the legal requirements for the role.

Hegseth even called his suitability into question because his skin colour could have been the reason he was promoted (no evidence, and he was qualified for the job).

So it looks like being anything other than a white male can now be considered as a reason to fire, or not hire, an individual. Even if they are better qualified for the role.

[Shaggy Hiker]

It was always implicit. Equality is a nice goal, but there's a significant segment of the population who have felt that some are more equal than others.

As a big, hairy, white guy, if I keep my mouth shut, people tend to assume that I agree with them. I have no illusions about there not being a significant segment of the US that uses equality as a shield for some decidedly discriminatory beliefs.

[TysonLPrice]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-bro...f5e7a5a58f6acf

So now we see why DEI wasn't a bad thing - a black man who is more than qualified for the job has been fired, and replaced with a white man who doesn't actually meet the legal requirements for the role.

Hegseth even called his suitability into question because his skin colour could have been the reason he was promoted (no evidence, and he was qualified for the job).

So it looks like being anything other than a white male can now be considered as a reason to fire, or not hire, an individual. Even if they are better qualified for the role.

MAGA was always a dog whistle for "make America white again"...

[wes4dbt]

I told you guys Trumps a good dancer. Look at the political two step he's doing here.

“Russia attacked, but they shouldn’t have let him attack,” Trump said, adding that Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and then-U.S. President Joe Biden should have taken steps to avert the invasion.

What's missing there is how could have Zelenskyy and Biden keep Putin from invading Ukraine. Other than just giving Russia part of their country, I got no idea how they could have stopped the Russian invasion. The UK and France tried this, give them what they want and there will be no problem, method with Germany in the 1930's and it failed miserably.