Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

[dilettante]

Practical advice for when it hits you:

[sapator]

1st. Thank for the post dil, enjoyable as always.
2nd. On Olaf post I was reading Utah and I was like...WTH?

[baka]

in this interview, return guest Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., a senior research scientist at MIT for over five decades, discusses her latest paper, “Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations. The Role of G-quadruplexes, Exosomes and MicroRNAs,” co-written with Dr. Peter McCullough, along with two other authors, Dr. Greg Nigh and Dr. Anthony Kyriakopoulos.

• In an as-yet unpublished paper, Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., describes a mechanism of the COVID shots that results in the suppression of your innate immune system. It does this by inhibiting the type-1 interferon pathway
• The COVID jab can cause neurons in your brain to produce toxic spike protein, or take up circulating spike protein, and the neurons try to eliminate the spike protein by transmitting them through exosomes. The exosomes are picked up by microglia, immune cells in your brain, which activate an inflammatory response, which can contribute to a degenerative brain disorders
• Two microRNAs, miR-148a and miR-590, are central in this process. These microRNAs — exuded in the exosomes along with the spike protein — significantly disrupt the type-1 interferon response in any cell, including immune cells
• On average, there are twice as many reports of cancer following the COVID shots compared to all other vaccines combined over the last 31 years
• The fact that the signal is that strong is even more remarkable when you consider that most people don’t think the COVID shot could be a variable in their cancer emergence, so they never report it

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LhTyQAUkwFbH/

[Shaggy Hiker]

2nd. On Olaf post I was reading Utah and I was like...WTH?

There are a bunch of Mormons who would like a talk with you....but only after they've laid a beating on Niya.

[Niya]

There are a bunch of Mormons who would like a talk with you....but only after they've laid a beating on Niya.

lol

[Eduardo-]

Aaaand, another Chart from Uttar Pradesh

Uttar Pradesh, this region of northern India, has a population of 200 million people.

It is about the size of Brazil, 2/3 of USA, more than twice Germany, twice of Philippines, about 5 times Argentina and 20 times Sweden.

It is a rather poor region of India.

They had a very low incidence of Covid, that came to almost zero.

They did something "secret" (they agreed with WHO to keep that secret, Why? You tell me -I have some guesses-).

But not too secret: they used Ivermectin for prevention and early treatment.

It is clear why they are banning Ivermectin.

[baka]

yeah. they talked about that in the 5 hour long video I posted about Sen. Ron Johnson.
and not just that drug, but a lot of other drugs as well. letting people die. a terrible crime.

I think this most be one of the worse crime in modern history.
millions died because of that, and just imagine the countless lives in the future that are destroyed because of sickness and early death.
increase of cancer and other diseases. the last video I posted its a bit about that as well.

its a disaster, and hard to grasp the horror people most have to have been fooled like that and also injected that poison inside their own bodies.

[Eduardo-]

yeah. they talked about that in the 5 hour long video I posted about Sen. Ron Johnson.
and not just that drug, but a lot of other drugs as well. letting people die. a terrible crime.

It is a genocide.

I think this most be one of the worse crime in modern history.

If not considering that this pandemic was planned, yes.
Otherwise, it is the second worse crime.
(I have already no doubt that it was)

millions died because of that, and just imagine the countless lives in the future that are destroyed because of sickness and early death.
increase of cancer and other diseases. the last video I posted its a bit about that as well.

And I would guess that the third crime was the vaccination.

its a disaster, and hard to grasp the horror people most have to have been fooled like that and also injected that poison inside their own bodies.

Exactly (unfortunately).
I talk about the mRNA vaccines. Not sure about the others, although they also have the spike protein that seem to be perhaps dangerous.
The mRNA vaccines can have anything coded along with the spike protein.
If they are so stubborn to vaccinate everybody you cannot do anything but suspect (and it is not about money, they already have excess of money).

[Eduardo-]

In Spanish there is a famous quote from Don Quixote:

“Ladran Sancho, señal que cabalgamos” – Let the dogs bark Sanco, it is a sign that we’re moving forward.

[Eduardo-]

If everything unfolds, I don't think that their refuges will serve of much.

[Eduardo-]

I hope they have a place for Tedros Ghebreyesus there too.

[baka]

in the last video, Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D
is explaining it (well, she is hard to follow, very intelligent) with biological terms whats "could" be going on.
and its not mild, its severe.

theres also some (quite complicated) information about the G-quadruplexes, that inside the cell, it can bind and they dont know what it could mean in the long term. fascinating to listen to, but its not that I understand everything.

as she say, the "mrna code", is very similar to human rna, and that can also confuse the immune-system, creating issue.
theres also the problem of activating, receptors, suppressors etc, that is a very complication system that you need to be very carefully to not damage in any way. but it seems the vaccine is doing that.

in the panel with Ron Johnson, they also talk about manipulation of reports.
making it impossible to make any conclusions. and also data that changes from month to month,
now I don't remember exactly, but they talked about in February they had 1000 cases of X, but in June, it was 170.
its like they disappeared.

[Niya]

I did some number crunching last year with the Covid stats in my country to find out how concerned I should be about dying and I found that it's mortality rate, at least in my country was nothing for me to worry about at the time. In addition, me and the missus got it and recovered from it very quickly. It wasn't even a blip in our lives. This lead me to be disinterested and indifferent to the Covid pandemic in general.

However, this piqued my interest:-

But not too secret: they used Ivermectin for prevention and early treatment.

It is clear why they are banning Ivermectin.

I actually felt a pang of anger listening to what this guy was talking about. I mean fearmongering is one thing and I can live with that. Fearmongering is nothing new, but when you start deliberately withholding potentially lifesaving treatment in order to boost profits, that really pisses me off. If what this guy is saying is true, then what the powers are doing by suppressing this information is downright evil. Just straight evil.

[Niya]

I wish I had 5 hours to just listen to this whole hearing. I get the sense that there will be things said that people need to know.

[Eduardo-]

However, this piqued my interest:-


I actually felt a pang of anger listening to what this guy was talking about. I mean fearmongering is one thing and I can live with that. Fearmongering is nothing new, but when you start deliberately withholding potentially lifesaving treatment in order to boost profits, that really pisses me off. If what this guy is saying is true, then what the powers are doing by suppressing this information is downright evil. Just straight evil.

I actually started researching all this issue (of what is actually happening with the pandemic) when I was researching about Ivermectin and I began to realize how effective it was and how that information was suppressed, and how mass media distorted everything about the subject.

That was just the tip of the iceberg.

[Eduardo-]

I wish I had 5 hours to just listen to this whole hearing. I get the sense that there will be things said that people need to know.

No doubt.
I have listened like 1.5 hours starting from min 40.

These are the true experts. The honest "scientific community".

[Eduardo-]

How could someone hold that the Nobel prize Luc Montagnier, discoverer of the HIV is not qualified (he is not there but he also raised warnings about vaccination).

How someone hold that Dr. Malone, inventor of mRNA technique is no qualified?

How someone hold that Kary Mullis, inventor of PCR test is not qualified?

How someone hold that a bunch of unknown "doctors" signing a letter (many of them being veterinarians or nurses) are qualified to debunk them?

Only in Alice in Wonderland.

[baka]

https://corona-ausschuss.de/en/

theres so much in there.
most of subjects in those 5 hours is found in there, the Corona Investigative Committee,
with +10000 minutes of footage, with tons of interview, well it seem, every possible doctor, professor, scientist, researcher, nurse, analyst and more.
and its all about that. corruption, drugs, alternative medicine, treatments, people getting fired and so on.
and sure, its not 100% bulletproof. some things could be exaggerated, and even false. but the quantity and from so many different sources.

its undeniable. if only 10% is true, is still enough.
I have only watched a small percent of everything. but I feel I can not watch everything. or can I?

[Niya]

@Eduardo

Wow....I had no idea. I thought this whole pandemic was just a bunch of fearmongering mixed in with some genuine ignorance. I had no idea something this insidious was going on right beneath our noses and that credible people were sounding the alarm all along.

I had never heard of Ivermectin until I read your post just an hour ago and I asked the missus if she heard of it since she is generally more "plugged in" to what's going on than I am and she shocked me by telling me she knew about it since the beginning of the pandemic and that "they"(I'm guessing she meant the authorities) didn't want us taking it. This is some deep **** man!

[Eduardo-]

I have only watched a small percent of everything. but I feel I can not watch everything. or can I?

I have a lot of things to watch pending, but I'll have to cut now, I have to do other things.
I'm interested in watching "The fall of the Cabal". It could be interesting.

[dilettante]

1st. Thank for the post dil, enjoyable as always.

Wait, wait... that doctor was serious. Hw wasn't doing a comedy bit.

[baka]

not sure about the Cabal.
I don't take it for "truth", but just a watch, to stimulate my brain with some information that I can not be sure its correct.
yes. I watched the entire first season, and a couple of the second.

right now Im more interested in hard evidence.
the "cabal=illuminati" I wait for later, if needed.

I mean, if you say "illuminati" it will directly discredit everything you say from the 30%.
no matter what you say. it will dissolve into a big conspiracy. so I avoid anything like that.

better to stick with what we know and can be explained with real data. and thats also interesting, as we understand more and more about the pandemic.

[Eduardo-]

@Eduardo

Wow....I had no idea. I thought this whole pandemic was just a bunch of fearmongering mixed in with some genuine ignorance. I had no idea something this insidious was going on right beneath our noses and that credible people were sounding the alarm all along.

They did a good work discrediting all as "conspiracy theories". They mocked about people talking on this things.

Perhaps there is nothing more powerful than using embarrassment.
People avoid getting attached to that at all costs.

I had never heard of Ivermectin until I read your post just an hour ago and I asked the missus if she heard of it since she is generally more "plugged in" to what's going on than I am and she shocked me by telling me she knew about it since the beginning of the pandemic and that "they"(I'm guessing she meant the authorities) didn't want us taking it. This is some deep **** man!

I think it depended on country to country. Here the information circulated a bit more (mid 2020), mainly in Whatssap and at first in some mainstream media. Then they discredited everything and stopped talking about it.

The doctors are divided, but most buy the official narrative.

You have also to take into account that they are afraid, and for many reasons.
These one doctors talking in the US senate are exceptions, they are truly heroes.

[Eduardo-]

not sure about the Cabal.
I don't take it for "truth", but just a watch, to stimulate my brain with some information that I can not be sure its correct.
yes. I watched the entire first season, and a couple of the second.

right now Im more interested in hard evidence.
the "cabal=illuminati" I wait for later, if needed.

I mean, if you say "illuminati" it will directly discredit everything you say from the 30%.
no matter what you say. it will dissolve into a big conspiracy. so I avoid anything like that.

better to stick with what we know and can be explained with real data. and thats also interesting, as we understand more and more about the pandemic.

Yes, it is also my position.
And that's why I didn't watch it some months ago when I first found it.
But these "crazy" people, may be are not too crazy after all, at least not in everything they say.

Some people started saying that it was a plan almost from the start, and I dismissed their claims, I "bought the mock".

In some way I somewhat "admire" how they realized about it just from the very beginning.

That's why I would like to give a shot to that "Fall of the Cabal" to see what they say.
Of course taking it with a pinch of salt.

Maybe it is all nonsense.

[sapator]

They did a good work discrediting all as "conspiracy theories". They mocked about people talking on this things.

Perhaps there is nothing more powerful than using embarrassment.
People avoid getting attached to that at all costs.



I think it depended on country to country. Here the information circulated a bit more (mid 2020), mainly in Whatssap and at first in some mainstream media. Then they discredited everything and stopped talking about it.

The doctors are divided, but most buy the official narrative.

You have also to take into account that they are afraid, and for many reasons.
These one doctors talking in the US senate are exceptions, they are truly heroes.

I've mention those people 2 years ago. I was mocked here. In general a lot of covid like lately posts here, I've mentioned.
The issue here is that going on rampage posting like you guys are doing , would even discourage me to read it.
I won't tell you what to do but I would have calmed down on the rampage.
Anyhow a chit chat post on a vb forum is not likely to wake people up (assuming you are correct).
If you want a campaign, I would have gone to other more relative forums.
As I've found out day to day stubbornness is a bliss so as you can see I stopped posting covid news and gone more on the comedy part career (without success I guess. dil has all the marbles )
Actually there is not much covid like to post really. It's over months ago, we just keeping it alive to sell vaccines.

[Shaggy Hiker]

If what this guy is saying is true, then what the powers are doing by suppressing this information is downright evil. Just straight evil.

Right, but first you have to get past that little 'if' bit. After all, if what he says is false, then what?

Consider the company you keep.

[Eduardo-]

I finally understood the rule of vaccination that is "Never perform a vaccination campaign during a pandemic".

In recently vaccinated people that get infected, in the stage while the antibodies are still not fully developed, the mutations of the virus that always occur due of error in replication, can led to new variants more probably because the ones that survive are the ones that can avoid the action of the antibodies, that are still weak at that stage and that's why the virus is not entirely suppressed.

They skipped that rule, and every rule.

That's what criminal do: not take into account any rule, law, moral, common sense or anything.

I have experience is seeing how criminals in power behave, because the governors of my country are currently criminals. And that's what the do: not to follow any rule, law or anything.
Then, that behavior is very familiar to my understanding.

And why most people accepted something like this? Because they were scared.

And because even if they knew these were "experimental vaccines", they came "from science".
And Science is now a god, a god of these times. You can blindly trust in science. Whatever that comes from science is good.

True science is quite secure, yes, and had been beneficial for humanity. But the fact is that it is not science now. It only has the label of science.

If you eat a jar that has a label of "Marmalade" but has something rotten inside, you'll have a stomach problem. Having a label does not guarantee anything.
And clearly not when it comes from criminals.

If you dress someone with a white coat, he will look like a doctor. It does not mean he is one.
People trust too much in what are presented to them. That's why con are successful.

They scared everybody and then they came with a solution, the vaccines. People said: of course, rules don't matter, give it to me.

The Covid virus was a real threat, but they amplified it like 10 times.
And banned any possible any alternative, as we are seeing (Ivermectin, etc).

[Eduardo-]

[Eduardo-]

I've mention those people 2 years ago. I was mocked here. In general a lot of covid like lately posts here, I've mentioned.
The issue here is that going on rampage posting like you guys are doing , would even discourage me to read it.
I won't tell you what to do but I would have calmed down on the rampage.
Anyhow a chit chat post on a vb forum is not likely to wake people up (assuming you are correct).
If you want a campaign, I would have gone to other more relative forums.
As I've found out day to day stubbornness is a bliss so as you can see I stopped posting covid news and gone more on the comedy part career (without success I guess. dil has all the marbles )
Actually there is not much covid like to post really. It's over months ago, we just keeping it alive to sell vaccines.

Good luck with the comedy.
I'm still interested in discovering and understanding more about this plan.

And congratulations if you were right from the start.
I'm not so fast. I go slow but secure.

[sapator]

Thanks.
I wasn't attacking anyone btw, if that was passed out.
I'm just saying, there's just bitterness and pain to be found in this forum (hah,hah, good one?)

[Eduardo-]

Thanks.
I wasn't attacking anyone btw, if that was passed out.
I'm just saying, there's just bitterness and pain to be found in this forum (hah,hah, good one?)

In all the world there is bitterness and pain.

And one key is to have humor, so you are right about the comedy.

We are sometimes over excited with our discoveries maybe.

[Niya]

Right, but first you have to get past that little 'if' bit. After all, if what he says is false, then what?

Consider the company you keep.

You're absolutely right. It could all be hocus pocus. Maybe the mainstream is acting in the best interest of the people. Maybe these alternative treatments are nothing more than snake oil. However, I'd call upon an age old idiom and ask you, what does your gut tell you? Are you really willing to dismiss this and just follow the mainstream? It is certainly easier and painless. Nothing good ever comes easy and I think this is part of the problem. Thinking for one's self and being critical of everything you see and hear is certainly harder than just accepting the most popular claims as true.

Mark my words. One of these days you're going to wake up to a version of America that punishes it's citizens for not identifying someone by their prefered made up pronouns. You're going to wonder how it happened. I say to you now it's because no one wants to think critically. They want others to do it for them. Remember, you heard it here first.

[FunkyDexter]

Hmm, guess that this study (scientists in Israel published) was right in,
that "natural immunity works a whole lot better"

It certainly shows that Omicrom is very non-lethal but I don't think anyone in the scientific community is debating that. There was some caution early on (perhaps overly so but hind sight is 20/20) but it's been widely acknowledged as non lethal for weeks. It doesn't show that natural immunity is preferential to vaccinated immunity though. For that you'd need data that separated by those cohorts.

In an as-yet unpublished paper, Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., describes a mechanism of the COVID shots that results in the suppression of your innate immune system. It does this by inhibiting the type-1 interferon pathway

Dr Stephanie Seneff Fact Checked. Also note that she's not a medical doctor. She's earned her PHD in Computer Science and works in AI. She has precisely zero expertise in this field. Finally note "in an as yet unpublished paper".

What you have found in Ron Johnson is a politician pursuing office. He has a clear motive for Vaccine miss information because he's fund raising off it and appealing to his base. You're going to find lots of instances of him pulling like minded people together to talk on panels but that doesn't mean any of them hold water.

[baka]

need fact check:
- Dr. Peter McCullough
- Dr. Greg Nigh
- Dr. Anthony Kyriakopoulos

since this paper is not just written by her.
so all this people are frauds?

source of interests:
https://www.researchgate.net/scienti...lough-38989664
https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._and_microRNAs

[baka]

need fact check for:

Dr. Bret Weinstein
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Dr. Ryan Cole
Dr. Harvey Risch
Dr. George Fareed
Dr. Pierre Kory
Dr. Richard Urso
Dr. Paul Marik
Dr. Aaron Kheriaty
Dr. Robert Malone
Dr. David Wiseman

since you are dismissing them all.

also: watching this: https://rumble.com/vt8rfa-australian...he-agenda.html
Australian QLD Senator Malcolm Roberts discusses the danger we are in as a nation.
We discuss the damning letter he wrote to our Prime Minister Scott Morrison, the lack of response, Scott Morrison's involvement in the agenda and many others in government.
A multi-angled battle requires effort from every front. We are grateful to still have those in Parliament like Senator Malcolm Roberts who are aware of the agenda and are fighting for us.

and Senator Malcolm Roberts talks about the vaccination campaign that has been a total disaster, enormous costs and destroyed many peoples life and he says:
- the failure of the product being blame on those that don't use it

[FunkyDexter]

I really don't. I've more than demonstrated that the vast majority of the source you cite are unreliable garbage. I do not owe it to you to do the most basic research for you when you should be doing it yourself. I'll continue to dip test them though.

If you are going to challenge the accepted scientific consensus the burden is on you to make an argument, backed by verifiable sources and establish the validity of those sources. My fact checking merely establishes that you're not bothering to do that and, as a result, the majority of what you're posting is fantasist nonsense.

Do your research.

[baka]

I did. while u just swallow the narrative.

when the truth comes out
my conscience will be pure, what about you?

I hope u are happy that children gets the vaccine.

and this u ignore completely
https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._and_microRNAs

but I didnt expect you would understand. I know exactly, 100% how u will react to everything.

u know most of the things u believe, its just false. misinformation. lies.
but u will believe in them anyway. they told u vaccine protect and the only solution for not spreading the virus.
later they changing it that it will protect but it can still spread
and later they changed it that it will protect against serious death but not protect you.
and now u see that it do nothing. contrary. data starts to show that the vaccinated are getting more sick of omicron.

and all the restrictions so doctors could not use the medicines they know of.
instead they are forced to use a protocol dictated by someone else.

but still u believe in them. they are just corrupted, money hungry, and plane evil.
but you believe in them....

but its easy to blame the others. thats the only thing u have left. blame the people that didnt vaccinate. because when nothing is left. u are forced to blame the one you believe in.

so u keep arguing against me, because u know if u start looking inside yourself. you are very very very scared. u dont want to admit it one bit.
its called rationalize. u censor it yourself. its common use by people, they avoid something that is shocking and terrifying. better blame the people that are making me uncomfortable.
because we are not scared. we want to the truth. so thats the only thing u can do. fight against us. but in the end u are just fighting yourself. its what u have inside thats the problem. u dont want to realize whats going on.

[FunkyDexter]

https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._and_microRNAs

It's a preprint. It's not peer reviewed.

I hope u are happy that children gets the vaccine.

As long as there are enough doses available I don't have a problem with it because there's been no credible evidence that it puts them at risk. I do have an issue that I think we should have been doing much more to export doses to the third world but that's a different debate.

[baka]

[Shaggy Hiker]

However, I'd call upon an age old idiom and ask you, what does your gut tell you? Are you really willing to dismiss this and just follow the mainstream?

My gut tells me to eat pizza.

However, yeah, my gut, my education, my experience with vaccinations, my experience with pandemics, all tells me that what is being covered in the mainstream is at least mostly right. The inability of the other side to come up with a coherent message, the problem that they can't come up with anything other than Youtube videos to support their cases, and when they use official data they misstate it, doesn't give me any confidence that they even have the basis for a solid argument.

Mark my words. One of these days you're going to wake up to a version of America that punishes it's citizens for not identifying someone by their prefered made up pronouns. You're going to wonder how it happened. I say to you now it's because no one wants to think critically. They want others to do it for them. Remember, you heard it here first.

Mark my words: We've been there for over two centuries. We're getting better, not worse. We're just doing it slowly. Every generation is better than the last, but that's what it seems to take. Yeah, there might be some mild discrimination over pronouns. When you consider that it was only a few decades back where you could get assaulted or murdered for your beliefs, the color of your skin, the church you attended, and so on, with the full expectation that your attackers would be exonerated, that's not so bad. Go back a century, and your attackers would be celebrated.

You think you know history, but the US is all about pretending our history didn't happen, and you're joining in. We created a lot of the economic problems in the Caribbean nations today, but you don't have to go very far back to find where we would have just come in and slaughtered people (though the ability to slaughter was less than it is today in terms of bodies/day). Now you have to look for the subtle effects of the invisible hand. A hundred years back, it would have been neither subtle nor invisible. You have the luxury to speculate on secretive conspiracies. You didn't use to have that option. We're getting better, and at this pace, perhaps our grandchildren will get there.