Quote Originally Posted by Eduardo- View Post
Well, but then the risk is to be infected with Covid
Right. What I stated was my criticism of that vaccine creation strategy. If the disease you are trying to protect yourself from with the vaccine is not a concern to you anyways, then you don't even care whether the vaccine is effective. That was the essential strategy used for chicken pox when I was young: You got it, you got over it, no big deal. Since that time, we've learned that it CAN be a big deal, since an early chicken pox infection makes you far more likely to get shingles, or something like that, later on in life. That was also the strategy for using cowpox (minor annoyance) to inoculate against smallpox (disfiguring and/or deadly). The failure of that strategy also led to the issue with one batch of the early polio vaccine.

So, the strategy is an ancient one. It has known risks, and everybody gets to decide for themselves. If it's the only game in town, that makes the decision a bit more straightforward.


Humm, no. It is an adenovirus viral vector vaccine. It is similar to AstraZeneca.
Ah, I read that it was using a 'weakened virus', and assumed that was the attenuation strategy. In fact, you are right that it is the adenovirus. It is ThAT virus that was weakened by removing it's ability to replicate while introducing the genes to create the spike protein.

Russians are quite good in technology. Their politics is that is not trusted.
China... they have improved in technology in later years, their politics are the least trusted.
The Russians are mostly weird in technology. They do some of it really well, but others...just really odd. For example, they did a lot of stuff with nuclear reactors in various places, but were strangely deficient in shielding them. It seemed to be a pattern. They also are cutting edge in some places (space, for a long time), and backwards in other areas. They're marching to their own tune, that's for sure.

China has certainly improved. I don't trust their health care OR their politics, though. I think the politics are predictable, it's just that they will predictably cover up the places they fall short.

But they would be risking their reputations worldwide if they send something like this that have a serious problem.
Still, there is always a risk of course, they were made very quickly and are experimental.
Does China care about their reputation? They certainly get aggressively offended when criticized, but there is no evidence that they will change their behavior as a result of criticism, they just attack the critic.