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    [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    I ran into a grammatical issue earlier today, and this problem has been bothering me the entire day, and evening... I cannot sleep. PLEASE HELP ME! Which one of the following is correct?

    All the cars, except one is..

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    All the cars, except one are..

    The reason I find this so difficult, is that "cars" is the subject, therefore it should be "are" (because, plural). But it sounds wrong, and therefore it should be "is"... but it can't be both of them. So which one is it?

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    in this case "is" ... why? because it belongs to the "except one" clause ... you're subject became a single car. So it is "All the cars, except one is clean, the rest are dirty." or "All of the cars, except one, are dirty."

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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    I can now put my mind to rest. Thank you.

    ps: I totally missed your "you're" typo until I reread your comment. lol

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    eh? OH! LOL!

    that's why I am a programmer and not a pro-grammar!

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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    Agree with TG with one proviso: had there been a comma after "except one" then it would be are because you would be talking about the rest of the cars instead of the one. E.g. All the cars, except one, are dirty.
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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyDexter View Post
    Agree with TG with one proviso: had there been a comma after "except one" then it would be are because you would be talking about the rest of the cars instead of the one. E.g. All the cars, except one, are dirty.
    That's what I said:
    or "All of the cars, except one, are dirty."


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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    So you did. I think I missed the second half for some reason.
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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    It was a boring game, I tuned out at half-time too.

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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    Wouldn't it be more grammatically correct to say

    All the cars are dirty except for one.
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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    Couldn't you just clean all the cars and then this grammar problem would go away !!!!
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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    It may may be grammatically correct, but it's syntactically incporrect.

    Code:
    Dim DirtyCars as List(Of Cars) = CarLot.Cars.Where(function (c) not c.Clean).ToList()
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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    "Is" because you are referencing a singular collection IIRC

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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    Unless we're talking about all your base... then it's are. And they are belong to me.

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    Re: [SERIOUS] Grammar question...

    Quote Originally Posted by techgnome View Post
    Unless we're talking about all your base... then it's are. And they are belong to me.

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