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[Niya]

...You can't just dismiss the flawed design and criminal behaviours of the piscine pests as mere competition as there are plenty of animals that compete over resources and do not commit fratricide...

I can never understand the need for humans to view animal behavior through the lens of morality. This is the pinnacle of arrogance. Morality and ethics are nothing more than abstract creations of the human mind. Reminds me of a time I was watching some YouTube where a guy was throwing chickens into a crocodile pen and filming the crocs killing them. In the comment section, quite a few folks were complaining about how cruel it was. Nature is not cruel. Nature is nature. If you really want to describe it, it would be more accurate to say nature is efficient, not cruel. Cruelty implies some kind of moral understanding and intent to violate its parameters. Nature has no care or understanding of morality hence it cannot be cruel.

[Niya]

Hell, if anything, nature is nurturing. It provides all that we need to survive.

[dclamp]

HA! You were banned!

[KGComputers]

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[dday9]

@KG - That threw a NullReferanceException

[Witis]

I can never understand the need for humans to view animal behavior through the lens of morality. This is the pinnacle of arrogance.

I outlined that it is always critical for humans to assess their own behaviours in order to judge their own morality and that includes making decisions about which animals, if any, they choose to kill and consume.

For example it is very difficult to justify killing herbivorous animals including sheep, cows, and the cheeseburger you had last week, as they merely consume plants and don't usually kill any other animals unless they are in mortal danger and are forced to defend themselves from a predator.

By contrast I also suggested that some animals have inherent designs and or display behaviours that make them a threat to the universe, including fish and raptors i.e. birds that prey on other birds (rather than every other species of bird which are typically highly likable), and that killing and consuming these animals enables one to save the universe. \(^.^)/

Can you justify killing and eating cows on a regular basis? :L

Morality and ethics are nothing more than abstract creations of the human mind.

Hmmm you might be onto something there Niya, although I quite like them nonetheless. =)

Reminds me of a time I was watching some YouTube where a guy was throwing chickens into a crocodile pen and filming the crocs killing them. In the comment section, quite a few folks were complaining about how cruel it was.

Surely you should have been able to understand why. Most folks know that crocodiles are ferocious mindless beasts that eat their own babies and spouces, are derivatives of the dinosaurs, and continue to consume and grow ever larger until the day they die. Chickens by constrast are highly likeable as they are not capable of growing indefinitely, form luvable pair bonds, the roosters look very handsome, and the hens even supply eggs for everyone to eat. I would definitely defend any chicken being attacked by a croc if I could. =D

Nature is not cruel. Nature is nature.

Some parts of nature are extremely cruel, crocodiles, alligators, monitor lizards, and particularly Komodo dragons are all very cruel species that do not possess any redeeming features and therefore make it onto my dinner plate whenever possible. :-9

If you really want to describe it, it would be more accurate to say nature is efficient, not cruel.

Sometimes it is efficient, sometimes it is cruel, sometimes it is a combination of the two as in the case of lizards.

Cruelty implies some kind of moral understanding and intent to violate its parameters. Nature has no care or understanding of morality hence it cannot be cruel.

I disagree, some animals are fundamentally likable and defendable where as others species make me want to shoot them. ︻┻┳══━一,┳━

[Witis]

Hell, if anything, nature is nurturing. It provides all that we need to survive.

Sometimes the products of evolution are definitely likable. =)

[Witis]

What about you dday9, can you justify killing and eating cows and chickens on a regular basis?

[dday9]

What about you dday9, can you justify killing and eating cows and chickens on a regular basis?

No need for justification. Think of it like using the bathroom, it's just natural(at least to me).

[dclamp]

Road House

[Witis]

No need for justification. Think of it like using the bathroom, it's just natural(at least to me).

°o°! Would you eat other humans if you could? The disabled? Children? What about members of your family? What about "bushmeat"?

[Niya]

HA! You were banned!

Did you miss me ?

[Niya]

I outlined that it is always critical for humans to assess their own behaviours in order to judge their own morality and that includes making decisions about which animals, if any, they choose to kill and consume.

For example it is very difficult to justify killing herbivorous animals including sheep, cows, and the cheeseburger you had last week, as they merely consume plants and don't usually kill any other animals unless they are in mortal danger and are forced to defend themselves from a predator.

By contrast I also suggested that some animals have inherent designs and or display behaviours that make them a threat to the universe, including fish and raptors i.e. birds that prey on other birds (rather than every other species of bird which are typically highly likable), and that killing and consuming these animals enables one to save the universe. \(^.^)/

Very odd way of looking at this. Animals have no capacity for understanding the morality of their behavior so why would you judge them based on moral guidelines ? Does this seem sensible ? Animals are guided by their instincts and all that really matters is that these instincts lead to the continued survival of their kind, even if its instinctive cannibalism. Who are we to even question several million years of evolution.

[Niya]

Can you justify killing and eating cows on a regular basis? :L

They taste good. Justification enough for me.

[Witis]

They taste good. Justification enough for me.

Why do you not view killing clearly innocent animals a crime tantamount to murder? Is it because they are a less intelligent species?

[Witis]

Very odd way of looking at this. Animals have no capacity for understanding the morality of their behavior so why would you judge them based on moral guidelines ?

If you view all creatures as fundamentally innocent then arguably you shouldn't be eating any any of them for breakfast, lunch, or dinner. Go vegan!

Does this seem sensible ?

I happen to worry about the safety of the universe and don't mind eating threatening species, especially if they taste nice. =)

Animals are guided by their instincts and all that really matters is that these instincts lead to the continued survival of their kind, even if its instinctive cannibalism. Who are we to even question several million years of evolution.

Another way of looking at it is that over the course of time some animals have evolved into very threatening species, i.e. if they continue to evolve in that particular direction they will literally threaten the safety of the universe. That reason alone is enough for me to justify killing and eating them. I guess you might say that I try to eat animals like the comet that killed the dinosaurs. ☄

[FunkyDexter]

Great to have you back Niya. CC's not the same without you

[SJWhiteley]

Great to have you back Niya. CC's not the same without you

"Now with added Niya!"

[Niya]

Why do you not view killing clearly innocent animals a crime tantamount to murder?

Because my stomach doesn't care. The enzymes in my body that break down proteins in meat don't care. The tastebuds on my tongue that tell me when meat tastes good don't care.

[Niya]

If they continue to evolve in that particular direction they will literally threaten the safety of the universe. That reason alone is enough for me to justify killing and eating them.

Oooo Kay

[Niya]

Great to have you back Niya. CC's not the same without you

"Now with added Niya!"

MOAR MERMAIDS!!!!xD

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