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[Witis]

What about birds of prey, birds that prey on other birds, would you eat eagles. falcons, osprey, and other large raptors?

[dday9]

I would try them, but like here in Louisiana, shooting eagles are illegal. However, vultures... you can forget about.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Tri-coloured binary aesthetics? At least you chose red. =)

I didn't, really. It's just all there was.

I don't quite see the problem, you just zero fill the last few unused bytes and it is then possible to determine exactly where the start and end of the message are.

That would have worked to some extent. It doesn't allow you to determine the start and end of the message because you wouldn't be able to determine whether to read N-S, or E-W without trial and error, though you'd be able to make a very good guess IF the message left significant numbers of bits at the end.

Still, I wanted the red in there for aesthetic reasons, as mentioned earlier. After all, the real point of the excersize was to not have to mow as much grass, and to have a nice patio in my back yard. The binary pattern was just an easter egg.

However, an 8 bit binary pattern would have needed no introduction or special markers, e.g. "Historically, the byte was the number of bits used to encode a single character of text in a computer" - wiki

Historically, the byte may have been the number of bits used to encode a single character of text in a computer, but also historically: There was no rule that a byte had to be 8 bits. Other size bytes have been used on various old systems. The 8-bit byte is nice because it's a power of 2, but a seven bit byte is more compact and does the job just as well, while a 9 bit byte allows for error checking built into the byte. So, both have been used at times.

You designed your binary pattern so that red functions as a visual character delimiter, so that is their main role in the pattern.

True. That is the main role, but not the ONLY role.

I am not convinced that you can use red tiles for multiple purposes if doing so interferes with or destroys the message you encoded.

The message is still there and is not destroyed. I already stated the only rules needed to read it.

Red = character delimiter, got it.

Got it wrong, once again. The equals sign is usually reversible. If A = B then B = A, and that is not the case here. Character delimiter = Red, but Red != character delimiter. So, the equals sign is a poor choice, and you wrote it backwards anyways. I've stated it correctly at least four times, including the text you quoted, and you STILL got it wrong. That's what the whole thing has been about. You stubbornly ignore what I'm actually saying in favor of a slight, but fallatious, misconstruction. Get that piece sorted in your own head and you will see that the pattern is not flawed.

Further the only obvious 7 bit pattern occurs reading the pattern bottom to top (rather than from left to right or right to left) in the pic your posted, meaning that any fill at the end of your message should only occur vertically rather than horizontally.

That's true. Fill at the end of the message would appear to be vertical based on the point of view of the picture. The top of the picture is North, too, so you are correct in saying that the reading is on the N-S axis rather than E-W (though I leave it up to you whether it is south to north or north to south).

The red is there to trick you into thinking it is a trinary pattern when it is actually a binary pattern.

Well, no, the red is there to make the back yard more visually pleasing, as the tan and gray bricks are relatively low contrast.

You originally said that the extra red tiles throw off the binary pattern.

By now, not only do I doubt that you are quoting me correctly, I also doubt that you are understanding the words I used correctly, but I'm not going to go figure out which post you are quoting from several pages back. If you want to give me a post number, I will go have a look. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you made that up.

Extra red tiles laid in the wrong place can easily throw off the pattern.

Just follow the rules that exist, not the ones you want to exist.

Although a 7 bit pattern would be a tricky pattern to spot. A gap or a couple of half tiles could also have functioned as a delimiter.

Sure, but neither of those are practical solutions. You can't seriously have a gap without something in it. If I didn't add vegetation, nature would take care of that on its own. I could have made some kind of planter every eigth tile, except that it would make for a HORRIBLE patio. Half tiles would be better than that, but would look terrible, as the rows of bricks would sometimes line up and other times not line up. Keep in mind, that the ultimate goal was to have a backyard patio, not to write a message. The message is secondary.

But the extra red tiles do, particularly as they do not seem to function as fill at the end of the message.

The end of the message is on the other picture, which I didn't add to this thread.

[Shaggy Hiker]

The latest line of discussion is dangerous. I had forgotten about the moral superiority of eating carnivores.

[Shaggy Hiker]

As I was headed home two days ago, I noticed a squirrel sitting on a railing eating something. What it was eating looked kind of odd, and I was on the fourth floor of a parking garage, so it wasn't like the squirrel was sitting near the ground eating a nut. Therefore, I got out of the car to get a better look at what the squirrel was eating: It was a bird.

I then turned on the radio and caught a mention of somebody talking about seeing cute, furry, woodland creatures and bright, colorful, birds. At which point I thought, "I just saw a cute, furry, woodland creature eating a bird. Does that count?"

People may not think of squirrels as carnivores, as they generally are not...but sometimes they are. Deer have been observed eating chicks, too. It's all a lot fuzzier than people expect.

[dday9]

I love squirrel and I love deer, but Witis asked about non-mammals.

[homer13j]

Yeah but the divinities also gave us intelligence so that we could work out which animals, if any, should be eaten.

That's easy... you eat the tasty ones!

[Witis]

I didn't, really. It's just all there was.

Just all there was, you mean you didn't set out to make your backyard into an homage to the colour red?

That would have worked to some extent. It doesn't allow you to determine the start and end of the message because you wouldn't be able to determine whether to read N-S, or E-W without trial and error, though you'd be able to make a very good guess IF the message left significant numbers of bits at the end.

Excatly.

Still, I wanted the red in there for aesthetic reasons, as mentioned earlier.

Yes you must like the colour red, a lot.

After all, the real point of the excersize was to not have to mow as much grass, and to have a nice patio in my back yard. The binary pattern was just an easter egg.

How many folks have discovered and deciphered your egg thus far?

Historically, the byte may have been the number of bits used to encode a single character of text in a computer, but also historically: There was no rule that a byte had to be 8 bits. Other size bytes have been used on various old systems. The 8-bit byte is nice because it's a power of 2, but a seven bit byte is more compact and does the job just as well, while a 9 bit byte allows for error checking built into the byte. So, both have been used at times.

But everyone knows it is eight bit binary which is most likely to hold characters. 8D

True. That is the main role, but not the ONLY role.

At last Shaggy agrees that the red tiles are the delimiter!

The message is still there and is not destroyed.

How can that be when you added some extra red tiles to throw a visual error and interfere with or destroy the meaning in the message?

I already stated the only rules needed to read it.

Do you mean the rules that you invented a couple of days ago to cover up your anti-binary behaviours, and that can't be deduced by anyone looking at the message?

Got it wrong, once again.

Nah, the main role of the red tiles is to act as a character delimiter, you just agreed a second ago in your post.

The equals sign is usually reversible. If A = B then B = A, and that is not the case here. Character delimiter = Red, but Red != character delimiter. So, the equals sign is a poor choice, and you wrote it backwards anyways. I've stated it correctly at least four times, including the text you quoted, and you STILL got it wrong. That's what the whole thing has been about. You stubbornly ignore what I'm actually saying in favor of a slight, but fallatious, misconstruction. Get that piece sorted in your own head and you will see that the pattern is not flawed.

No, I have established that the red tiles are the delimiter but you have still not clarified the role of the extra red tiles you added. In your last post you said they were fill at the end of the pattern, what are they now?

That's true. Fill at the end of the message would appear to be vertical based on the point of view of the picture. The top of the picture is North, too, so you are correct in saying that the reading is on the N-S axis rather than E-W (though I leave it up to you whether it is south to north or north to south).

So if they are not fill at the end of the message what is the purpose of those extra red tiles?

Well, no, the red is there to make the back yard more visually pleasing, as the tan and gray bricks are relatively low contrast.

More visually pleasing, yes, red is his colour.

By now, not only do I doubt that you are quoting me correctly, I also doubt that you are understanding the words I used correctly, but I'm not going to go figure out which post you are quoting from several pages back. If you want to give me a post number, I will go have a look. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you made that up.

Post #55823 "I also see that there are some extra red bricks in the upper left corner of that picture, which are now covered by a raised bed, but would throw off the pattern in the picture."

Just follow the rules that exist, not the ones you want to exist.

You mean that you want me to follow the rules that you invented a couple of days ago to cover up your furtive anti-binary behaviours. No thanks. Those rules cannot be deduced by anyone and therefore cannot apply, instead it seems very clear that you added the extra red tiles to throw an error and obstruct or block any attempts to decipher the encoded message.

Sure, but neither of those are practical solutions.

Sure they are, a gap and half tiles are both relatively cheap and easy ways to create a delimiter in the pattern.

You can't seriously have a gap without something in it.

Use your imagination Shaggy, a gap can definitely work as a delimiter.

If I didn't add vegetation, nature would take care of that on its own. I could have made some kind of planter every eigth tile, except that it would make for a HORRIBLE patio. Half tiles would be better than that, but would look terrible, as the rows of bricks would sometimes line up and other times not line up. Keep in mind, that the ultimate goal was to have a backyard patio, not to write a message. The message is secondary.

Sniff, you used to care about binary.

The end of the message is on the other picture, which I didn't add to this thread.

So what are those red tiles doing in the picture you posted?

[dday9]

Why so many quotes in all y'all's post?!

[Witis]

The latest line of discussion is dangerous. I had forgotten about the moral superiority of eating carnivores.

I didn't say that it was morally superior to eat carnivores, however, using science to determine the moral character of each animal might come in handy. =^.^=

[Shaggy Hiker]

How many folks have discovered and deciphered your egg thus far?

To be fair, nobody has had the chance. None of my friends are computer geeks, so they wouldn't bother, and those who could were all family, so they knew about it before I wrote it.

At last Shaggy agrees that the red tiles are the delimiter!

No. Once again you are getting it wrong. The delimiters are red tiles, but red tiles are not delimiters. If you say it correctly, you will (possibly) think about it correctly.

Do you mean the rules that you invented a couple of days ago to cover up your anti-binary behaviours, and that can't be deduced by anyone looking at the message?

That's kind of funny, actually. It proves itself to be wrong, which makes it kind of a clever paradox.

No, I have established that the red tiles are the delimiter but you have still not clarified the role of the extra red tiles you added. In your last post you said they were fill at the end of the pattern, what are they now?

You don't get to establish anything. The rules are what they are. You decided that they are something else and you are trying to state that the pattern is wrong because it doesn't fit with your mistaken conception of the rules.

Sure they are, a gap and half tiles are both relatively cheap and easy ways to create a delimiter in the pattern.

They are both cheap and easy, to be sure. The half tiles would only appeal to somebody with no taste, though, because your columns would line up at times, then not, then line up again. Humans (and quite possibly other animals) appear to be hard coded to find such patterns unappealing. We like to follow lines, and that would create jaggedness. Gaps would have a different problem, as they would be filled in by weeds....and would otherwise be tripping hazards, which is far from ideal in a patio.

[Witis]

As I was headed home two days ago, I noticed a squirrel sitting on a railing eating something. What it was eating looked kind of odd, and I was on the fourth floor of a parking garage, so it wasn't like the squirrel was sitting near the ground eating a nut. Therefore, I got out of the car to get a better look at what the squirrel was eating: It was a bird.

I then turned on the radio and caught a mention of somebody talking about seeing cute, furry, woodland creatures and bright, colorful, birds. At which point I thought, "I just saw a cute, furry, woodland creature eating a bird. Does that count?"

People may not think of squirrels as carnivores, as they generally are not...but sometimes they are. Deer have been observed eating chicks, too. It's all a lot fuzzier than people expect.

Squirrels "are predominantly herbivorous, subsisting on seeds and nuts, but many will eat insects and even small vertebrates" (wiki) i.e. they are actually omnivores unless they cannot digest the insects and vertebrates they consume. As far as I am aware deer are herbivores not omnivores.

[Witis]

I love squirrel and I love deer, but Witis asked about non-mammals.

I hope you mean you love them rather than love to eat them, and yes I did ask about non-mammals.

[Witis]

That's easy... you eat the tasty ones!

Would you murder an animal just because it tastes good?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Post #55823 "I also see that there are some extra red bricks in the upper left corner of that picture, which are now covered by a raised bed, but would throw off the pattern in the picture."

Ah yes, that one. Combine the fact that I used pattern to mean two different things in the previous posts, plus your dubious reading comprehension....and I'll just leave it at that. It was a poor choice of words on my part, that's for sure.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Would you murder an animal just because it tastes good?

Well, I wouldn't for any OTHER reason.

[Shaggy Hiker]

As far as I am aware deer are herbivores not omnivores.

They are generally considered to be. They don't have the teeth for eating meat, but something like a chick, which can be eaten hole, they have been known to do.

[Witis]

To be fair, nobody has had the chance. None of my friends are computer geeks, so they wouldn't bother, and those who could were all family, so they knew about it before I wrote it.

Hmmm, that confirms my suspicions, you added the extra red tiles, and no-one has deciphered your message. Would you now call the addition of the extra red tiles a success?

No. Once again you are getting it wrong. The delimiters are red tiles, but red tiles are not delimiters. If you say it correctly, you will (possibly)

I dunno Shaggy it doesn't read like you are making too much sense to me, I think clarifying the role of the extra red tiles is the key.

That's kind of funny, actually. It proves itself to be wrong, which makes it kind of a clever paradox.

Where is the error?

You don't get to establish anything.

Too late, I have already established that the main role of the red tiles is to act as a character delimiter and you agreed. =)

The rules are what they are. You decided that they are something else and you are trying to state that the pattern is wrong because it doesn't fit with your mistaken conception of the rules.

I merely noticed the obvious error you inserted into your binary pattern, then you tried to cover it up by inventing some rules.

They are both cheap and easy, to be sure. The half tiles would only appeal to somebody with no taste, though, because your columns would line up at times, then not, then line up again. Humans (and quite possibly other animals) appear to be hard coded to find such patterns unappealing. We like to follow lines, and that would create jaggedness. Gaps would have a different problem, as they would be filled in by weeds....and would otherwise be tripping hazards, which is far from ideal in a patio

You can use two half tiles to make everything line up neatly, and I am sure that you can work out how to insert a gap without generating a tripping hazard.

[Witis]

Ah yes, that one. Combine the fact that I used pattern to mean two different things in the previous posts, plus your dubious reading comprehension....and I'll just leave it at that. It was a poor choice of words on my part, that's for sure.

Yes, that post. I can only call it an unambiguous anti-binary confession.

[Witis]

Well, I wouldn't for any OTHER reason.

°o°!

[Witis]

They are generally considered to be. They don't have the teeth for eating meat, but something like a chick, which can be eaten hole, they have been known to do.

Hmmm, but if they cannot digest meat then they can only be classified as herbivores.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Hmmm, that confirms my suspicions, you added the extra red tiles, and no-one has deciphered your message. Would you now call the addition of the extra red tiles a success?

Only if you have a tenuous grasp of logic. The fact that nobody has tried doesn't equate to it being impossible, it just means that nobody has tried.

I think clarifying the role of the extra red tiles is the key.

I clarified very explicitly about six times (inlcuding the last two posts), you simply ignore it or feverse it each time. That's why I'm saying it is you. You can't seem to get over the idea, which was your own, that...well, I can't say it, or you'll quote it out of context. It just comes down to me saying that A is always B, which you consistently interpret to mean that B is also always A, which is not true.

Where is the error?

It's kind of clever, because you managed to make up the case, then stated that the case couldn't be made up. You stated that I created the rules a couple days ago, then go on to state that the rules "can't be deduced by anyone looking at the message". So...how did I deduce the rules a few days ago if nobody can do so by looking at the message? Did I not figure them out from looking at the message, and if so, then where did I get them from? They do happen to be sufficient for interpreting the message, which you don't dispute (a good thing, because they happen to be sufficient), and you say that I didn't have them before a few days ago, so where did they come from?

Too late, I have already established that the main role of the red tiles is to act as a character delimiter and you agreed. =)

I don't have a problem with you saying that they are mainly used as a character delimiter. By number or frequency, that is clearly true. The issue I have is with you then going on to assume that that that is the SOLE role they serve, which is not true.

I merely noticed the obvious error you inserted into your binary pattern, then you tried to cover it up by inventing some rules.

But you said that nobody could do that, so I must not have done that. How could I be doing something that you have proven I could not have done.

You can use two half tiles to make everything line up neatly, and I am sure that you can work out how to insert a gap without generating a tripping hazard.

As for the first one, rather than the hassle of cutting two tiles in half (and having to decide whether that should be a gray or tan tile that I cut, or half of each), couldn't I just use a tile of a different color? As for inserting a gap...no, I don't believe I can work that out. How about a suggestion?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Hmmm, but if they cannot digest meat then they can only be classified as herbivores.

They can digest what they need to from that. Whether they are interested in the meat is a question I don't know the answer to. What they certainly ARE interested is in the minerals that go into the bones. Those are found in meat, as well, to some extent. The assumption I have seen is that minerals are the reason rather than protein, but I have never seen any study on meat consumption in deer to look at what they are and are not digesting from what they eat.

On the other hand, owl pellets are made up of the indigestible parts of what they eat, so there's a carnivore that is not digesting all parts of its meals, either.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Yes, that post. I can only call it an unambiguous anti-binary confession.

Really? That's ALL?

[dday9]

Binary Talk == Puppy Talk?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Close enough.

[dclamp]

House

By far my favorite one. Mostly because I like House

[Witis]

Only if you have a tenuous grasp of logic. The fact that nobody has tried doesn't equate to it being impossible, it just means that nobody has tried.

Did you add the extra red tiles to throw a visual error and make it difficult to decipher the message, or to make it impossible to decipher the message?

I clarified very explicitly about six times (inlcuding the last two posts), you simply ignore it or feverse it each time

Not true, most recently you tried to tell me that you added the extra horizontal red tiles as fill at the end of your message, then admitted the end of the message was not even in that picture and that any such fill would have to be vertical rather than horizontal, and then you failed to explain the actual role of the extra red tiles even when I asked you directly.

It's kind of clever, because you managed to make up the case, then stated that the case couldn't be made up. You stated that I created the rules a couple days ago, then go on to state that the rules "can't be deduced by anyone looking at the message". So...how did I deduce the rules a few days ago if nobody can do so by looking at the message? Did I not figure them out from looking at the message, and if so, then where did I get them from? They do happen to be sufficient for interpreting the message, which you don't dispute (a good thing, because they happen to be sufficient), and you say that I didn't have them before a few days ago, so where did they come from?

Anyone looking at the pattern would, as I did, instantly recognise that the extra red tiles are obviously there to obstruct or block anyone from reading the message, and you even admitted the extra tiles throw off the pattern. Then you changed your mind and forged rather than deduced some new rules a couple of days ago, and simultaneously tried to retract your admission regarding the extra tiles. The truth is that those extra tiles throw a clear red visual error through your binary encoded message and removing those tiles, not a difficult job as it is only a few tiles, is the only way to remove the error. I don't imagine you have managed to con anyone into believing your new rules should be taken seriously.

I don't have a problem with you saying that they are mainly used as a character delimiter. By number or frequency, that is clearly true. The issue I have is with you then going on to assume that that that is the SOLE role they serve, which is not true.

True, you also use them to throw an error in your binary pattern.

I merely noticed the obvious error you inserted into your binary pattern, then you tried to cover it up by inventing some rules.

But you said that nobody could do that, so I must not have done that. How could I be doing something that you have proven I could not have done.

I think you have to clarify what you mean there Shaggy, as it is does not make any sense to me. I never stated that it was impossible to throw an error by inserting extra red tiles, nor did I indicate that it was impossible for you to forge some new rules in an attempt to cover up the act of inserting the error into you message that way.

As for the first one, rather than the hassle of cutting two tiles in half (and having to decide whether that should be a gray or tan tile that I cut, or half of each), couldn't I just use a tile of a different color? As for inserting a gap...no, I don't believe I can work that out. How about a suggestion?

It is zero fill, so half tiles are in which ever colour represents zero. Also using more than two colours to represent binary is just not very intuitive and will make anyone looking at the pattern think it is anything other than binary.

[Witis]

They can digest what they need to from that. Whether they are interested in the meat is a question I don't know the answer to. What they certainly ARE interested is in the minerals that go into the bones. Those are found in meat, as well, to some extent. The assumption I have seen is that minerals are the reason rather than protein, but I have never seen any study on meat consumption in deer to look at what they are and are not digesting from what they eat.

In the absence of any evidence suggesting that deer can digest meat, I can only view them as herbivores.

On the other hand, owl pellets are made up of the indigestible parts of what they eat, so there's a carnivore that is not digesting all parts of its meals, either.

Owls are definitely carnivores. "Like other birds of prey many owl species exhibit reverse sexual dimorphism in size, where females are larger than males (as opposed to the more typical situation in birds where males are larger)" - wiki

[Witis]

Really? That's ALL?

That confession is enough for me!

[Witis]

Binary Talk == Puppy Talk?

Why can you hear a lot of barrking?

[FunkyDexter]

If God didn't want us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of tasty meat.

If you think about it, a cow is basically just concentrated grass. Thus by eating steak I am merely engaging in a more efficient form of vegetarianism.

Doin' my bit for the planet.

[Witis]

If you think about it, a cow is basically just concentrated grass. Thus by eating steak I am merely engaging in a more efficient form of vegetarianism.

Doin' my bit for the planet.

°o°!

[Witis]

Are you really happy slitting their throats just because cows taste good even though they have committed no crime?
Isn't killing something without just cause called murder?
What about switching to fish?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Are you really happy slitting their throats just because cows taste good even though they have committed no crime?
Isn't killing something without just cause called murder?
What about switching to fish?

Why do you feel fish are so inferior?

That's not really a flippant question, either. If you see killing a cow as wrong, how is it that you see killing a fish is fine?

[Witis]

Cows are herbivores, they don't out looking to make a kill, they might defend themselves if they have to to stop themselves from being eaten which makes them innocent creatures. Also they have a relatively placid nature when left to graze on their own adding more support for their case. If they were humans they would represent law abiding citizens, and the word vaccine is derived from the latin for cow. ˚ᵕ˚

[Witis]

By contrast fish are designed entirely differently. In the case of the grey nurse shark their criminal behaviours begin during pregnancy where there are approximately 20 shark pups in each uterus, the fastest developing pups eat all the other pups until there is only one pup left in each uterus - that's fratricide.

They will eat each other just for the hell of it - that's homicide and cannibalism.

Also they never stop growing, meaning that if you created a robotic shark it would continue to eat and grow until it takes over the universe, unless you kill it first.

So by eating fish you are saving the universe.

./\ /\
>°.°<
.''" "''

[Witis]

[Shaggy Hiker]

By contrast fish are designed entirely differently. In the case of the grey nurse shark their criminal behaviours begin during pregnancy where there are approximately 20 shark pups in each uterus, the fastest developing pups eat all the other pups until there is only one pup left in each uterus - that's fratricide.

They will eat each other just for the hell of it - that's homicide and cannibalism.

Also they never stop growing, meaning that if you created a robotic shark it would continue to eat and grow until it takes over the universe, unless you kill it first.

So by eating fish you are saving the universe.

./\ /\
>°.°<
.''" "''

It certainly isn't for the hell of it. There's a reason for that. You see it all over the place, too. There are lots of birds where the first born will push the rest out of the nest, or kill them. When a new queen bee hatches, it will generally sting and kill any other queen pupae not yet hatched. This isn't done for the hell of it, it's done because of competition for limitted resources.

As for cows and sheep, they have been bred domestically for thousands of years. We weren't breeding hostility or territoriality into them, for sure. Non-domestic animals don't play so nicely. Elk, deer, and every other ungulate that I am aware of, will kill each other. Deer have eaten baby birds, and it is likely that cows will, too. Pigs can be vicious, as can all domesticated fowl.

Meanwhile, you mention only sharks. Do you eat sharks? Maybe you do, but you have shown several pictures of salmon nigiri. Salmon do eat other fish, including other salmon (if they can), but not all fish do. How about tilapia? Do you not eat tilapia since they are vegetarian?

By the way, do you eat mushrooms? Do you care whether they are parasitic?

[Witis]

It certainly isn't for the hell of it. There's a reason for that. You see it all over the place, too. There are lots of birds where the first born will push the rest out of the nest, or kill them. When a new queen bee hatches, it will generally sting and kill any other queen pupae not yet hatched. This isn't done for the hell of it, it's done because of competition for limitted resources.

You can't just dismiss the flawed design and criminal behaviours of the piscine pests as mere competition as there are plenty of animals that compete over resources and do not commit fratricide, do not engage in cannibalism, and will not grow until they take over the universe. Mammals are classic examples as they do not typically murder each other merely to fill their bellies, and cannot grow indefinitely and take over the universe. Birds that are not raptors are another good example, they often mate for life and cannot grow indefinitely, although there are some exceptions like the boobies that do behave badly by letting one chick kill all of the others until there is only one left in each season - hence the expression booby prize. Cuckoos are another bad exception:

I'd eat a cuckoo clock. All of the birds of prey also behave very badly.

As for cows and sheep, they have been bred domestically for thousands of years. We weren't breeding hostility or territoriality into them, for sure. Non-domestic animals don't play so nicely. Elk, deer, and every other ungulate that I am aware of, will kill each other. Deer have eaten baby birds, and it is likely that cows will, too. Pigs can be vicious, as can all domesticated fowl.

I am not sure that I believe your assertion that elk, deer, etc will kill each other, they might get into a rut in breeding season, they might tire each other out in battles over females, they might even injure each other, but I do not believe you that their intent is to murder each other. Although I'd be interested to read about precisely how viscous pigs can be.

Meanwhile, you mention only sharks. Do you eat sharks? Maybe you do, but you have shown several pictures of salmon nigiri. Salmon do eat other fish, including other salmon (if they can), but not all fish do. How about tilapia? Do you not eat tilapia since they are vegetarian?

One of my aims is to dine on some mako shark if I can get hold of some, and a good chef. Salmon are tasty, and I eat a lot of salmon each week, same goes for tuna. As far as tilapia goes, it is slightly more difficult to make a case against them, and marine iguanas, as they only consume vegetable matter.

By the way, do you eat mushrooms? Do you care whether they are parasitic?

Sure I eat edible mushrooms, they have a root stock which allows them to continue to grow even after the fruit are picked, although I would not eat any of the poisonous or parasitic species, for example like those: