Post Race!

[opus]

this thread will never die!

[Pc Monk]

i'm counting on you opus

[Jacob Roman]

I dare you to make it to 65536 posts. Maybe you'll not only crash this thread, but the entire VBForums site!

[szlamany]

Don't ya think that's a bit much?

[Jacob Roman]

Nope o.o

[Shaggy Hiker]

Maybe

[szlamany]

Would you at least agree that it is a bit shifty?

[Witis]

Changes gears and accelerates, it's the post race!!!!!

[dday9]

Would you at least agree that it is a bit shifty?

du, dum, crash.

[Pc Monk]

psychology is so funny , specially at reading people faces , like i was sitting in rain while people were looking at me laughing and telling themselves
look at this guy some would say (idiot) they wont but their faces will...
does that have to do anything with the topic , i dont think so

[szlamany]

Everything's zen, i don't think so...

[szlamany]

Changes gears and accelerates, it's the post race!!!!!

With your avatar and this quote - I want to rate you...

[Witis]

With your avatar and this quote - I want to rate you...

Thanks, no need to rate, just enjoy!

[dday9]

With your avatar and this quote - I want to rate you...

Thank goodness that rate had a 't' in it, I read otherwise.

[Jacob Roman]

This thread is making my nipples tingle with joy.

[szlamany]

I thought we were on a binary rant - wouldn't that be nibbles - or am I byting off too much in this poor pun attempt...

[Shaggy Hiker]

Word!

[Pc Monk]

here is what i found about programming, there is no stress in it and that is why makes it boring

[szlamany]

That's Not Logical!

Or in C++ !logical

Still binary...

[Shaggy Hiker]

There is no stress in programming? I had some a few months ago when I thought I had a logical puzzle that had no solution. I was suffering some severe stress symptoms, which is totally bizarre, as I have never been stressed all that much before.

[Pc Monk]

well some things doesn't come with logic, and finding a solution wouldn't stress me out , you seek out for information and finally you find out how to do it, even if you didn't you just leave it. either you can do it or cant whats the stress ? but you can feel the stress when you are in a dangerous situation THAT'S stress , not sitting in a chair and looking for solution
there is a always solution for logical things! thats why we call it logic right ?

[dday9]

well some things doesn't come with logic, and finding a solution wouldn't stress me out , you seek out for information and finally you find out how to do it, even if you didn't you just leave it. either you can do it or cant whats the stress ? but you can feel the stress when you are in a dangerous situation THAT'S stress , not sitting in a chair and looking for solution
there is a always solution for logical things! thats why we call it logic right ?

Stress can come from the pressure of losing your job(if you're getting paid to program).

[szlamany]

You get paid to program?

[Jacob Roman]

Programming is a job? o.O

[Pc Monk]

if you are a programmer and you are getting paid only from 1 company , that's wrong , programmers usually take projects from different company (like me) , so for me if i loose 1 because i didn't had enough information not a big deal,beside i always try to findout the best solution ,no stress then !

[Shaggy Hiker]

well some things doesn't come with logic, and finding a solution wouldn't stress me out , you seek out for information and finally you find out how to do it, even if you didn't you just leave it. either you can do it or cant whats the stress ? but you can feel the stress when you are in a dangerous situation THAT'S stress , not sitting in a chair and looking for solution
there is a always solution for logical things! thats why we call it logic right ?

No, not at all, really. When coming up with a novel solution to a problem what we do is anything but logical. It's not some plodding rational process. One moment you don't 'get it', and the next moment you do. You shift from one frame of reference where the problem doesn't appear clear, then your frame of reference shifts and you see a solution to the problem. There's no logical sequence of steps from one to the other. At best there is a series of frame shifts so that you can see steps along the way, but it is almost never reasoning out from first principles and seeing where it leads you.

In my case, the problem was to come up with a way to translate a problem that was fairly simple in practice, into program logic. The problem was that I was too hooked on what was real and what wasn't. The solution involved adding an utterly abstract concept into the design to form a model that was based partially on real-world constructs and partially on a rather fanciful, abstract, construct. I could then perform changes against the model, then test the resulting model for validity, and if it passed, the real-world parts were translated back into database reality, while the abstract parts were discarded. Without the abstract parts, the model was impossibly complicated. With the abstract parts, the model is elegant, but it took me a long time to realize that the non-real parts were the keys to the design. Trying to solve the problem prior to that realization was immensly stressful. I knew there had to be a solution (it was a model for real world activity, after all), I knew that many teams had failed to find an answer, and I knew that the answer I had wasn't right, but I also felt that I'd not be happy without finding the answer. That's all you really need for stress.

[dday9]

You get paid to program?

Ohh buddy I wish!

[szlamany]

You gotta pay for that upcoming delivery though - time for a night job!!

You won't be sleeping during the night anyway in 8 months!

[dday9]

You gotta pay for that upcoming delivery though - time for a night job!!

You won't be sleeping during the night anyway in 8 months!

I would love to get my foot into the programming world, where I can just do some projects at night and keep my regular 8-5 job, I just have no idea where to start.

[Jacob Roman]

Try making Android java apps that you can sell on the Google Play Market. The more apps you sell the more money you make.

[dday9]

That's pretty much been the consensus, don't get paid to do VB.net, get paid to do java/c++

[Jacob Roman]

And you are self employed. You create your own hours and sell whatever apps youve made.

[Pc Monk]

@shaggy : well when there is a case like that 'too many teams failed' that's stressful. but usually its not like that!
if you are a programmer and you are not making money out of it , well then why you do programing in the first place!? vb.net,java,c++,html,php doesn't matter which one you know,you can make money easily with them , when i was a vb programmer everyone would come out to me and saying "dude vb.net its easy ,you drag the button and u drop it and Done you have a program" i told them i can make money out of it, doesn't matter if its easy or not

[Pc Monk]

what is the difference between imagination and dream ? in dream you actualy feeling it but in your imagination its only the picture not the feeling !

[dday9]

And what's the deal with ash treys on an airplane? Do people still use them?

[Shaggy Hiker]

@shaggy : well when there is a case like that 'too many teams failed' that's stressful. but usually its not like that!
if you are a programmer and you are not making money out of it , well then why you do programing in the first place!? vb.net,java,c++,html,php doesn't matter which one you know,you can make money easily with them , when i was a vb programmer everyone would come out to me and saying "dude vb.net its easy ,you drag the button and u drop it and Done you have a program" i told them i can make money out of it, doesn't matter if its easy or not

I went away, and now I don't remember what the point was. In any case, I started programming as a hobby. Just a mental exercise. It became a job, but is still a hobby. Why not program just for the fun of it?

I don't even know if that's relevant, but at least it keeps the posts going.

[Shaggy Hiker]

And what's the deal with ash treys on an airplane? Do people still use them?

Where else would you put your gum?

[Witis]

CyberSurfer's thread has brought out my inner Cyberman!
Check out the windows in the background!

[Shaggy Hiker]

They look like....windows!

[Witis]

I just upgraded!