The iPhone 4S

[Icyculyr]

Nexus One was $529 unlocked, the current HTC Sensation is $600, Samsung Galaxy S2 $540, found Droid Bionic for $670 (only one seller, it's pretty new too soon to tell real price), HTC ThunderBolt $599, Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc $400... These are all the most recent devices, and Nexus Prime is said to be released in two days.

Mmm, all right. I'll leave it alone for now. I'll be watching to see what the Prime costs though

Ok, so that's $200 for what costs them not more than $10.

Mmm, no... 16GB of storage was $30, $60 for 32GB (2x16GB) and $120 for 64GB (2x32GB), about a year and a half ago. That would mean (assuming the costs are the same today) they're making $70 for you to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB, and $40 for you to upgrade from 32GB to 64GB. (This however was what they were making back then though.)

Link: http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/New...Estimates.aspx

That's about a year and a half ago, but I doubt flash prices have dropped by two thirds.

I'm not talking about upgrade during purchase, but buying it and upgrading after. http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_IMAC_S11_27 But even then, it's $200 for something that retails for $50. And it is the same, I know because I've bought it and installed it myself, in the process had a look at the factory memory, the same Kingston modules.

Ouch, that's expensive. So these Kingston modules have these specs:

Register: Non Parity
Low Noise 8-Layer PCB
Meets and/or Exceeds Apple/Intel Specifications
Fully Compliant with JEDEC specifications
RoHS Certified

If so, then I guess you're right.

Why does it matter what they sell? It can be smartphones or apple pie, profit margin is profit margin, that's the whole point of the article, and the only number for profit margin is percentage. What would growth numbers have to add to the story?
On a side note, I think HTC and RIM are all smartphones, Motorola still makes a few of those classic cell phones.

When you're comparing profits it's usually fair to compare it with similar products. Of course Apple is going to have more profits vs any cellphone manufacturer since they make a lot less than smartphones. But yes, profits are profits. Ah, good to know.

Well, it'd show us more detail about the market, to put it simply. For example, we'd see how many units Samsung is selling vs how many units Apple is selling, and other little bits of info.

Apple's server's aren't responding because of the device ID, I'm sure with the first sign of a jailbreak they'll be able to spoof the ID to trick the server.

Correct, but when they do start responding I believe we'll see several things:

1) Inaccuracy (this is just a guess)
2) Significantly longer response times
3) Larger amounts of data sent

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I can ask Siri what the time is in Paris two days from now and she'll tell me in about one second. It's not so great if it takes five seconds. We'll see soon enough how it works out though.