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    Re: The iPhone 4S

    Quote Originally Posted by Icyculyr View Post
    How about this: if you can find me the base model of a high end droid or two that was initially released for less than $800, I shall agree with you. Or, we can just stop talking about it altogether, it's up to you.
    Nexus One was $529 unlocked, the current HTC Sensation is $600, Samsung Galaxy S2 $540, found Droid Bionic for $670 (only one seller, it's pretty new too soon to tell real price), HTC ThunderBolt $599, Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc $400... These are all the most recent devices, and Nexus Prime is said to be released in two days.

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    Apple charges you an additional hundred to double the memory capacity up to 64GB starting at $799 up to $999.
    Ok, so that's $200 for what costs them not more than $10.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icyculyr View Post
    To be honest I don't believe the RAM is identical, however the differences are small and at best would increase the price by a few dollars. (I'd rather not get into that though, we've already got enough arguments going on here and it doesn't matter either way.) Oh, and it's $200 to "upgrade" from 2x2GB ($25) of RAM to 2x4GB ($50) of RAM, not $400.
    I'm not talking about upgrade during purchase, but buying it and upgrading after. http://store.apple.com/us/memorymodel/ME_IMAC_S11_27 But even then, it's $200 for something that retails for $50. And it is the same, I know because I've bought it and installed it myself, in the process had a look at the factory memory, the same Kingston modules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icyculyr View Post
    The problem with that article is that most, if not all of these companies also make standard cellphones which sell by the millions, e.g Nokia, which skews the results because of the sheer amount of them compared to smartphones. Of course Apple is going to be making a lot more of the profit when there's cellphones involved.

    What would be good to see is a smartphone comparison which included only HTC, Samsung, and Apple and to include not only percentages, but growth rates and absolute numbers. (Out of curiosity, does Samsung and HTC sell cellphones as well? Or do they only sell smartphones?)
    Why does it matter what they sell? It can be smartphones or apple pie, profit margin is profit margin, that's the whole point of the article, and the only number for profit margin is percentage. What would growth numbers have to add to the story?
    On a side note, I think HTC and RIM are all smartphones, Motorola still makes a few of those classic cell phones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Icyculyr View Post
    That's not "running" that's just the UI. When they've got Siri working, shoot me the link and I'll eat my words. Here's some of the posts I've read by this "educated user" which is why I suspect they won't get it working properly (accurately, with low data usage, and quickly).
    Apple's server's aren't responding because of the device ID, I'm sure with the first sign of a jailbreak they'll be able to spoof the ID to trick the server.
    Last edited by baja_yu; Oct 18th, 2011 at 12:31 AM. Reason: Tag syntax error

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