[RESOLVED] artificial intelligence

[Spoo]

Perpetual motion doesn't exist?

Nonsense. Just look at this thread.
I rest my case.

[formlesstree4]

at day : the solar panel works a motor or whatever and charge up the b8Triz which would run the motor at night
notice its perpetual motion not energy and probably along the line of what visualAd was talking about

Perpetual Motion would be a motor spinning fast enough to generate a big enough charge to not only power itself, but produce enough power to be useful. However, a perpetual motion machine itself would break the First and/or Second Laws of Thermodynamics.

What you're talking about is that a Solar Panel takes energy and puts it inside batteries. That is converting solar energy to a stored energy type for a battery. There is an external energy source being applied therefore no perpetual motion/energy going on.

[baja_yu]

Actually, perpetual motion machine would be one that produces the same amount (or more) energy that it consumes and could potentially run indefinitely without an outside energy source. Sun is an outside energy source, that might be perpetual in your lifetime, but not in the grand scheme of things.

[minitech]

I've also often expected the news is fake. Also, that the rest of the forum members are artificial intelligences created to confuse me. The world doesn't actually exist. Thanks for confirming my fear about the news, though, moti... but I can't trust you because you don't exist.

*Gasp* solar panels? This thread has started to deviate from the topic

[Spoo]

In the spirit of returning to the thread's topic,
could/should an AI machine be able to..

• learn on its own and then play, say, Solitaire
• devise a strategy to win more often at Solitaire
• devise a strategy to win at day-trading the stock market

[moti barski]

theoretically yes, the yotamarker v5.2 is an A.I platform that is adaptable for various operations :
v7 is an instance of v5.2 and is optimal for :war, chores, and to be a girlfriend.
there was a time I considered adapting v5.2 to play pokemon red, then minitech said it wouldn't prove anything.

[formlesstree4]

theoretically yes, the yotamarker v5.2 is an A.I platform that is adaptable for various operations :
v7 is an instance of v5.2 and is optimal for :war, chores, and to be a girlfriend.
there was a time I considered adapting v5.2 to play pokemon red, then minitech said it wouldn't prove anything.

The whole point of an AI is that you shouldn't have to adapt it to anything; it should be able to learn on its' own what it needs to do, just like a human does.

[NickThissen]

The only perpetual energy device I can think of using a solar cell is one where a light, powered by a solar cell, shines on said solar cell, so the light would get its energy from the solar cell, which would generate its energy from the light, and so on. But yeah... that's kinda like pulling up on your own belt Luckily you'd need a 100% efficient solar cell which is impossible.

(As for perpetual motion vs perpetual energy, it's the same thing. For perpetual motion you need perpetual energy. Or motion with zero friction, which is again impossible. You might get very close to zero friction (I think there's spinning rings or something in some lab that have been spinning for over 50 years) but never zero.)

Oh, and an AI that can do war, chores AND be my girlfriend?! I gotta get some of that... I've always wanted something that combines those three very related things!

[sapator]

Moti can you hook your Yodamarker to a car and capture a video of she driving it?
That would be very helpful for blind people or stuntmen or even for mothers in law

[minitech]

I think perpetual motion could be possible. How about using lasers, mirrors with 100% reflectivity, and a vacuum, plus a little refraction on the side...?

[moti barski]

she can't hear like a human unless I get a 5milisec intervals volume meter or decent voice recognition.
at any rate, playing with the input and output results with advantages and disadvantages.

humans can't function as fast as computer
computers can't eat

the eye class gets 125 points zips em to 11 char which enables fast learning and more asertive fighting the human eye has much more points which enables greater object recognition slower learning and weaker memory

[baja_yu]

But yeah... that's kinda like pulling up on your own belt Luckily you'd need a 100% efficient solar cell which is impossible.

Not just the solar cell, the bulb too. The incandescent bulbs are notoriously inefficient with only about 3% of energy being converted to light and the rest just going to heat.

[sapator]

she can't hear like a human unless I get a 5milisec intervals volume meter or decent voice recognition.

If you shout does she get afraid or she talks back?Better program her for the first so you won't get mad.

[moti barski]

if I shout she gets scared represented by the "!" char

[NickThissen]

I think perpetual motion could be possible. How about using lasers,

mirrors with 100% reflectivity,

They do not exist.

and a vacuum,

A perfect vacuum does not exist (zero point energy).

plus a little refraction on the side...?

If you have refraction you have no 100% reflectivity..?

if I shout she gets scared represented by the "!" char

Some AI...

If voice.Volume > 50 Then
   TextBox1.Text = "!"
End If

That's not AI, that's cheating. If it were true AI it would respond differently based on the situation, the mood, etc. If you shout at me I might get scared, or I might laugh at you, or I might think you are weird, or... You see? Just having one reaction to one input is not AI, at all..

[sapator]

They do not exist.

That's not AI, that's cheating. If it were true AI it would respond differently based on the situation, the mood, etc. If you shout at me I might get scared, or I might laugh at you, or I might think you are weird, or... You see? Just having one reaction to one input is not AI, at all..

No it's perfect for a woman!It's an accepted cheat.

[moti barski]

! it's not a reaction it is an emotion, and it recalibrates the output
moreover, volume meters are at times random a shout at times isn't registered at shout volume level
also, in the later videos she fired up ! without the external presence of high volume

[visualAd]

That's likely because there is a fundamental physical law that does not allow perpetual motion to exist. I don't think there is such a law for an AI...

But not everyone is as smart as us

[visualAd]

Many audio streams do not encode the concept of volume. I think an audio stream has high magnitude and low magnitude points. The volume of the high and low point then depends on how you have turned speakers up

[minitech]

@NickThissen: I was very kidding about the perpetual energy thing.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I thought it was dead, but noooooo.

[baja_yu]

[moti barski]

I thought it was dead, but noooooo.

it ?

[baja_yu]

it ?

[akhileshbc]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/whatsgoingoni.png/

[formlesstree4]

[moti barski]

shoryuken

[Shaggy Hiker]

it ?

This thread. Nobody had posted in it for a couple months, or something.

[sapator]

This thread will live in our hearts ever if the site goes down

[akhileshbc]

This thread will live in our hearts ever if the site goes down

Might come in handy for you : http://www.careurheart.com/heart-car...rt-attacks.htm

[sapator]

If you mock at me you show disrespect to the OP too

[LaVolpe]

Haven't read every post on this thread, but just had to tell this joke...

What you call it when a blonde dyes her hair brunette? Artificial Intelligence

[moti barski]

a certain software company has totally copied my software's name.
then they used the dirtiest seo (search engine optimization) trick in the book to promote themselfs :
they published fake wanted adds.

how are they called ? yottamark
what do they do ? some e-commerce stuff which is any ways available for free in the ebook :
battle programming 2011 5th edition

how ironic they deal with software authentication

[stlaural]

when are you going to sue them?

[moti barski]

not my style, I am prepared for such cases, thats all I can say. tihi

[formlesstree4]

not my style, I am prepared for such cases, thats all I can say. tihi

I'd like to see the proof of these allegations...

[Spoo]

What is a yottamark?

(as distinct from a Yoda mark)

[akhileshbc]

If you mock at me you show disrespect to the OP too

No, I'm just kidding.. And I respect moti.

[akhileshbc]

a certain software company has totally copied my software's name.
then they used the dirtiest seo (search engine optimization) trick in the book to promote themselfs :
they published fake wanted adds.

how are they called ? yottamark
what do they do ? some e-commerce stuff which is any ways available for free in the ebook :
battle programming 2011 5th edition

how ironic they deal with software authentication

Why not register that name as trademark or as a registered name or something...!

After that, when someone uses your registered name, you could easily sue them (I believe). But the registration costs seems to be little high.

[stlaural]

not my style, I am prepared for such cases, thats all I can say. tihi

So much mystery... Can't wait to see what happens next.