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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    If I were to start a thread and start saying that VB.NET is stupid, some VB.NET developers would get offended but some C# programmers will find it witty
    If all you said was that VB.Net was stupid then I doubt anyone would find it witty. If you were to crack one of your usual puns at the same time then it would be witty. I honestly can't see anything on his site that would constitute wit. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be allowed to offend, but if your only purpose is to offend then you are just plain offensive.

    Comedy is a grey area because a great deal of comedy is offensive. I don't have a problem with that. But, in all honesty, I don't see anything on that guy's site that even comes close to humour.
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    No, that was my point, though implicit, I should've mentioned it. Insulting VB.NET with wit. Insult anything with wit. I did find it witty. You find it offensive.

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    If all you said was that VB.Net was stupid then I doubt anyone would find it witty. If you were to crack one of your usual puns at the same time then it would be witty. I honestly can't see anything on his site that would constitute wit. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be allowed to offend, but if your only purpose is to offend then you are just plain offensive.

    Comedy is a grey area because a great deal of comedy is offensive. I don't have a problem with that. But, in all honesty, I don't see anything on that guy's site that even comes close to humour.
    To be Witty, will usually be offensive to someone.

    Constituting wit

    To have one's wits about one is to be alert and capable of quick reasoning.

    Witty remarks may be intentionally cruel (as in many epigrams), and perhaps more ingenious than funny.
    A witticism also suggests the diminutive. Repartee is the wit of the quick answer and capping comment: the snappy comeback and neat retort.

    Shakespeare, who admonished pretension with the phrase "Better a witty fool than a foolish wit". It may combine word play with conceptual thinking, as a kind of verbal display requiring attention, without intending to be laugh-aloud funny; in fact wit can be a thin disguise for more poignant feelings/opinions/truths that are being versified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mendhak View Post
    No, that was my point, though implicit, I should've mentioned it. Insulting VB.NET with wit. Insult anything with wit. I did find it witty. You find it offensive.
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    That's one of those new-fangled vb tags, isn't it? I refuse to change my programming ways. Line numbers haven't failed me yet.

    I find the whole "this way is better" horrendously offensive
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    Some people believe that god exists(like me). Some know there is a god, just dosnt want to believe because they dont want to be juged for the way they are. They dont want to change themself. I KNOW there is a god. He has blessed me, and given me strength. I have seen his works in the world that he made. And on top of that, not one person ever alive has been able to find proof that counterdicks anything in the Bible. And nobody ever will. That right there would be more than enough proof to believe. But some people just dont want to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5ms? View Post
    I'm confused.




    So I made My breath, and of My own free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5ms? View Post
    C# is lame, to be a programmer you need to program in Assembly, and to be a rill programmer then you need to program in binary.

    I may argue with you about the existence of God but that one I just cannot disagree with.
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    What turns me off religion is the concept of worship. If there is a superior being that created everything, then despite what it has done, if it would actually want to be worshiped, then I have no respect for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Orwell View Post
    That's one of those new-fangled vb tags, isn't it? I refuse to change my programming ways. Line numbers haven't failed me yet.

    I find the whole "this way is better" horrendously offensive
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

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    Originally Posted by 5ms?
    I'm confused.




    So I made My breath, and of My own free will.
    I'm convinced! that someone great made My breath, that someone is (Me!).
    You did not create those, God has given them to you for you to use in your own discretion.
    1. The air inhaled and exhaled in respiration.
    2. The act or process of breathing; respiration.
    3. The capacity to breathe, especially in a natural and unlabored manner: shortness of breath.
    4. Spirit or vitality; life.
    5. A single respiration: a deep breath.
    6. Exhaled air, as evidenced by vapor, odor, or heat.
    7. A momentary pause or rest.
    8.
    a. A momentary stirring of air.
    b. A slight gust of fragrant air.
    9. A trace or suggestion: a breath of scandal.
    10. A softly spoken sound; a whisper.
    11. Linguistics Exhalation of air without vibration of the vocal cords

    out of breath
    Breathing with difficulty, as from exertion; gasping.

    Breathing is the process that takes oxygen in and carbon dioxide out of the body. Aerobic organisms require oxygen to release energy via respiration, in the form of the metabolism of energy-rich molecules such as glucose. The medical term for normal relaxed breathing is eupnea.

    Breathing is only part of the processes that deliver oxygen to where it is needed in the body and remove carbon dioxide. The process of gas exchange occurs in the alveoli by passive diffusion of gases between the alveolar gas and the blood passing by in the lung capillaries. Once these dissolved gases are in the blood, the heart powers their flow around the body (via the circulatory system).

    In addition to removing carbon dioxide, breathing results in loss of water from the body. Exhaled air has a relative humidity of 100% because of water diffusing across the moist surface of breathing passages and alveoli.

    In mammals, breathing in, or inhaling, is usually an active movement, with the contraction of the diaphragm muscle. This is known as negative pressure breathing. Normally, the diaphragm's relaxed position recoiled (decreasing the thoracic volume) whereas in the contracted position it is pulled downwards (increasing the thoracic volume). This process works in conjunction with the intercostal muscles connected to the rib cage. Contraction of these muscles lifts the rib cage, thus aiding in increasing the thoracic volume. Relaxation of the diaphragm compresses the lungs, effectively decreasing their volume while increasing the pressure inside them.
    The intercostal muscles simultaneously relax, further decreasing the volume of the lungs. With a pathway to the mouth or nose clear, this increased pressure forces air out of the lungs. Conversely, contraction of the diaphragm increases the volume of the (partially empty) lungs, decreasing the pressure inside, which creates a partial vacuum. Environmental air then follows its pressure gradient down to fill the lungs.

    I'm confused
    Were does god come in to the breath???

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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemaster1494 View Post
    Some people believe that god exists(like me). Some know there is a god, just dosnt want to believe because they dont want to be juged for the way they are. They dont want to change themself. I KNOW there is a god. He has blessed me, and given me strength. I have seen his works in the world that he made. And on top of that, not one person ever alive has been able to find proof that counterdicks anything in the Bible. And nobody ever will. That right there would be more than enough proof to believe. But some people just dont want to change.
    Gamemaster1494, long time no see, good to see you.
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    [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God
    Not for, Why do you believe that god exists

    I made this thread for the people that believe god exists([Not so Serious]Why do you believe that god exists )

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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

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    but that one I just cannot disagree with.
    You don't say agree,
    But still that's just not right!

    It's So So So Wrong!!!
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    5ms don't be so shy about posting in this thread and come on I know you can do better than 4 consecutive posts.
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    Please! add
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    Now that's wit.
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    Now that's wit.
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    Quote Originally Posted by 5ms? View Post
    No......!
    Because it's gods will, you have to do it, like dee-u says,

    god's hand is evident in ever thing.
    We do not have free will, we think We do, but We don't.
    Even My breathing is not free will, it's gods will.
    So if I go kill someone then it was God's will that I do that? In other words "thou shalt not kill unless I tell you to"? How about if we take it 6,000,000 steps further and I'm Hitler. Did God make me do that?

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    Gamemaster1494, long time no see, good to see you.
    But
    This thread is for,

    Not for, Why do you believe that god exists

    I made this thread for the people that believe god exists([Not so Serious]Why do you believe that god exists )

    oh. sorry about that.

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    What turns me off religion is the concept of worship. If there is a superior being that created everything, then despite what it has done, if it would actually want to be worshiped, then I have no respect for it.

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    You don't say agree,
    But still that's just not right!

    It's So So So Wrong!!!
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    if(!asm & witch ==wooden) then OPTION EXPLICIT & burn the lot of them because they float.


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    oh. sorry about that.
    Don't be sorry, I'm not.


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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    My mum died, I was told, god wonted her with him.
    When someone doesn't die, they say god isn't ready for them.
    Babies/ children, You did not create those, god did.

    Thus If!!!! it's gods will, when life begins, or when the state that follows life ends(Death),
    god created it, god terminated it,
    Then it can not be your will, it's gods will!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by MartinLiss View Post
    So if I go kill someone then it was God's will that I do that? In other words "thou shalt not kill unless I tell you to"? How about if we take it 6,000,000 steps further and I'm Hitler. Did God make me do that?
    So if You go kill someone then, must be gods will.
    6,000,000+, must be gods will.
    god is ready for them.
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    i believe in god & jesus the trinity the virgin mary ect

    i also believe that god created the universe and that it was done in 7 days...

    i believe that god has a plan for everyone and i have felt it in my own life

    i know where i am going when i die ... to heaven and i hope to see you all there someday


    remember

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    deny me here on earth ill deny you at the gates of heaven (not really in those words but you get the point)


    i dont goto chuch like i should i dont pray as much as i should i smoke pot i cuss i drink but the beauty of it is that i can ask for forgivness

    god gave us human will its up to you what you want to believe im not one to push religion on anyone the way i see it to each his own

    but me ...i believe and always will jesus is my savior



    but i do not think anyone is bad because of their beliefs


    and if you have read the bible hell doesnt sound very fun to me id rather be in heaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by dee-u View Post
    It does seem that a lot of VBF members does not believe in God's existence and I am curious why.
    I personally believe in God.

    I think some people who don't believe in God are looking for some kind of certainty, but it does not exist anywhere. Science is uncertain, mathematics is uncertain, religion is uncertain, and life is uncertain. Uncertainty is a fact of life, but many people struggle to deal with it.
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    i believe in god & jesus the trinity the virgin mary ect

    i also believe that god created the universe and that it was done in 7 days...

    i believe that god has a plan for everyone and i have felt it in my own life

    i know where i am going when i die ... to heaven and i hope to see you all there someday


    remember

    jesus said

    deny me here on earth ill deny you at the gates of heaven (not really in those words but you get the point)


    i dont goto chuch like i should i dont pray as much as i should i smoke pot i cuss i drink but the beauty of it is that i can ask for forgivness

    god gave us human will its up to you what you want to believe im not one to push religion on anyone the way i see it to each his own

    but me ...i believe and always will jesus is my savior



    but i do not think anyone is bad because of their beliefs


    and if you have read the bible hell doesnt sound very fun to me id rather be in heaven
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    I think some people who don't believe in God are looking for some kind of certainty, but it does not exist anywhere
    I would have said the opposite, those who believe in God are often looking for some kind of Certainty, as Religion is has been fairly unchanging in its core beliefs for 2000 odd years.

    Science is uncertain and some people struggle with the fact that somethings are not written in stone but change with our level of understanding.

    Also Science allow us to challenge its theories and concepts and refine them and even debunk them and replace them with new theories as our knowledge expands.

    Religion does not allow this, its beliefs and concept are not up for discussion they have been written therefore they are.
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    I would have said the opposite, those who believe in God are often looking for some kind of Certainty, as Religion is has been fairly unchanging in its core beliefs for 2000 odd years.

    Science is uncertain and some people struggle with the fact that somethings are not written in stone but change with our level of understanding.

    Also Science allow us to challenge its theories and concepts and refine them and even debunk them and replace them with new theories as our knowledge expands.

    Religion does not allow this, its beliefs and concept are not up for discussion they have been written therefore they are.
    Well said

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    I personally believe in God.

    I think some people who don't believe in God are looking for some kind of certainty, but it does not exist anywhere. Science is uncertain, mathematics is uncertain, religion is uncertain, and life is uncertain. Uncertainty is a fact of life, but many people struggle to deal with it.
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    the catholic diefication and sainthood stuff particularly annoys me. Is it up to humans to determine who gets in heaven? Excommunication is another fun topic. "don't let him in heaven god. we don't want him there"
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    Is it up to humans to determine who gets in heaven? Excommunication is another fun topic. "don't let him in heaven god. we don't want him there"


    I'm a saint, but I don't want to be there.

    god annoys me.

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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Orwell View Post
    the catholic diefication and sainthood stuff particularly annoys me. Is it up to humans to determine who gets in heaven? Excommunication is another fun topic. "don't let him in heaven god. we don't want him there"
    Those are not based on the Bible so I don't believe in those things also.
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

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    My mum died, I was told, god wonted her with him.
    When someone doesn't die, they say god isn't ready for them.
    Babies/ children, You did not create those, god did.
    So what you are saying, babies don't have mothers and fathers? Because i am fairly certain that if i never have sex, i won't have a child.

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    I would have said the opposite, those who believe in God are often looking for some kind of Certainty, as Religion is has been fairly unchanging in its core beliefs for 2000 odd years.

    Science allow us to challenge its theories and concepts and refine them and even debunk them and replace them with new theories as our knowledge expands.

    Religion does not allow this, its beliefs and concept are not up for discussion they have been written therefore they are.
    The church used to swear we are the center of creation. It no longer does that as Galileo proved different (he was excommunicated by the way).
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    Those are not based on the Bible so I don't believe in those things also.
    most catholic doctorines are made up. That doesn't stop them being enforced every sunday.
    I would also add, that if someone were to read a catholic bible, they would find books that aren't in the other versions. There is a lot of teachings from the years of jesus, and a whole lot of them just never made entry into the bible. The King James version left out books that God wasn't mentioned in, lowering the book count by 4. There are also other gospels that were never included because they differed too much from the view the church wanted people to have of christianity and Jesus in general. And the book they left in: Romans, is really telling of how they did it. "we don't want the religion to be inaccessible by non-hebrews, so we'll leave out this and this. A smaller tithe will help, etc." Original teaching? Give EVERYTHING to the church and work for it. If you really think about that though, if every single person in the world did this, they would all starve to death because no one would actualy be working and no one would be left to mooch off of. It was exactly like a pyramid scheme when it first started.
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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    The church used to swear we are the center of creation. It no longer does that as Galileo proved different (he was excommunicated by the way).
    At the time Galileo came out with his theories he was denounced by the church and told to recant his views.

    When he then wrote another book further expanding on the Heliocentric view of universe he was handed over to the inquisition, found suspect of heresy and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. During that time the church also banned his book on the subject.

    It was only much later that the church dropped its opposition to the Heliocentric view of the universe.
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