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    i've installed ultimate dozens of times. It's the biggest vista and it maxes out at 20gb with everything installed. quite possibly it's larger however if you're running the 64-bit version.
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    Re: Windows 7 - would you recommend it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Orwell View Post
    i've installed ultimate dozens of times. It's the biggest vista and it maxes out at 20gb with everything installed. quite possibly it's larger however if you're running the 64-bit version.
    Yeah, but the Windows Updates are another matter.
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    Hey,

    Part of the issue with Windows Updates is that the installation files remain on the hard drive, which allows you to uninstall the update if you need to. If once you have installed the update you know you are "never" going to uninstall it, you can delete these files. This is one of the techniques that we use to keep our Virtual Machines low in hard drive space.

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    One thing I dont get is the new 'peek' function that lets you look at your desktop by hovering your mouse in the bottom right corner of the screen. Why would you want to just look at your desktop?
    In Win7, the sidebar is gone and those sidebar widgits are now "on" the desktop. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I'm not in front of my Windows 7 machine right now) but can't you still see those when you cursor over the peek area?
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    Yes, that is correct. The gadgets are now able to be directly placed and individulally moved on your desktop. Kinda like advanced desktop icons.
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    Ah yeah, I guess that is the only real purpose of the peek thing then... that and if you want to just stare at your wallpaper for a moment. Seems a bit odd that they included this feature (and quite heavily publicise it) just for that
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    There has to be some amount of bling in a new OS release as regular users care more about those then developers do IMO.
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    lol I suppose.

    I have to say I'm not impressed with the speed so far. It takes either the same time or longer than Vista did to start up and nothing seems any faster once I am actually logged in - I'm guessing it makes much more difference to slower computers, my PC was pretty fast even with Vista on so maybe I just didnt see the slowness that most people saw with Vista so 7 doesnt seem any different to me. SSD hard drive came today but no one was in so they are going to attempt to deliver it again tomorrow that should make it boot up a lot faster
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    Im sure it should be ok to post this from Feb's summit

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    Rob, do you know the specs of the computers that the drag race was happening on?

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    I can see if I can find the video, to hear the specs if they did say anything more then brand/model, but they were both identical systems and Windows 7 blew Vista away!
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    Ah yeah, I guess that is the only real purpose of the peek thing then... that and if you want to just stare at your wallpaper for a moment. Seems a bit odd that they included this feature (and quite heavily publicise it) just for that
    No, you're a little mistaken at Microsoft's marketing lingo. When they talk about "Peek" they're primarily talking about how when you hover over running programs in the taskbar, it pops up micro shots of the window(s). It's basically video game technology called "Viewporting". It's not a snapshot of the window, it's the actual running window being viewed scaled down.

    The Peek system even allows you to customize it. For example, play a video in Media Player, now minimize it. Now hover over it. See your video playing in the peek window? See how it even includes some basic controls right on the peek window? You can theoretically write a program with a custom peek-mode and include some hot-buttons or something right on the peek screen.

    The mouse-cursor to the bottom right to see your desktop is nothing more than a "show desktop", that's not "peek"; at least as far as Microsoft's marketing department is concerned.

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    After reading these posts i feel i must be missing something. I cannot imagine anyone using vista over xp. I develop my app in vb6 on xp. I bought a new pc and put vista ultimate on it, just to test my vbapp. Many users download and install my app so i made it vista aware.
    Vista seems to boot faster,but opening new screens it seems that it is deciding if it going to allow me or not. Seems everytime i try to do something it prompts are you sure? And sometimes prompts for password. Was having a problem i thought was a corrupt dll in system32. Took me about an hour to rename the dll and install a new one. On xp i put a file somewhere and it will be where i put it. On vista i sometimes have to search to find the file. I realize there may be settings to set in Vista to overcome some of these issues, but I just do not see a reason, when i can just use xp. Am i missing something ?
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    Ah yeah, I guess that is the only real purpose of the peek thing then... that and if you want to just stare at your wallpaper for a moment. Seems a bit odd that they included this feature (and quite heavily publicise it) just for that
    that's not what aero peek is. If you hover over an open application on the task bar, you get preview windows of it, and if you hover over that, it makes every other window transparent except that one. That's aero peek. It lets you peek at the open window without selecting it. It's actually very handy for viewing spreadsheets, IM conversations, etc. The button on the side is an extension of this function except that the window that stays visible is the sidebar (yes it's still called that even though it's not a side bar)
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    After reading these posts i feel i must be missing something. I cannot imagine anyone using vista over xp. I develop my app in vb6 on xp. I bought a new pc and put vista ultimate on it, just to test my vbapp. Many users download and install my app so i made it vista aware.
    Vista seems to boot faster,but opening new screens it seems that it is deciding if it going to allow me or not. Seems everytime i try to do something it prompts are you sure? And sometimes prompts for password. Was having a problem i thought was a corrupt dll in system32. Took me about an hour to rename the dll and install a new one. On xp i put a file somewhere and it will be where i put it. On vista i sometimes have to search to find the file. I realize there may be settings to set in Vista to overcome some of these issues, but I just do not see a reason, when i can just use xp. Am i missing something ?
    Yes. Most likely you are running xp on an admin account. Run it on xp on a limited account and you will probably break your programs. If vista's moving a file, you most likely didn't save it where it belonged in the first place. There exist shortcuts for the xp locations for document folders, etc that point to the correct vista locations.

    And microsoft's boot speed seems to be directly tied to the system, not the OS. Anything with an intel chipset seems to boot blazingly fast. My wife's dell booted from power button to desktop under 30 seconds in xp, vista, and 7. So did both of our dell laptops. My system is closer to a minute no matter what OS i run.
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    There are always going to be those that want to blame Microsoft for everything that went wrong in their lives. I could not get Vista to load because my machine was an old piece of junk and it was clearly not on the hardware compatibility list. This is not Microsofts fault, it is mine. It is a hardware issue because I did not want to fork out the cash for a new machine when I could just go back to Win 2K and have one that did everything I needed.

    I tried several flavours of Linux and quite frankly the problems were far worse and the support involved a lot of idiots who wanted to appear as if they knew a lot more than they did and spent their time abusing those that just asked a simple question. Strangely when somebody worded a question in a manner that indicated they might know what they were doing they all became remarkably quiet.
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    I dropped out of high school, got a dirty hoe preg when I was 18, I've worked at McDonald's for 7 years since, and when I get home my computer takes 10 minutes to load Windows... all of this is Microsoft's fault.

    Yea, there's always going to be those who blame MS for everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isnoend07 View Post
    After reading these posts i feel i must be missing something. I cannot imagine anyone using vista over xp.
    What has that got to do with this discussion? We are talking about Windows 7, not Vista.
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    Seems everytime i try to do something it prompts are you sure? And sometimes prompts for password. Was having a problem i thought was a corrupt dll in system32. Took me about an hour to rename the dll and install a new one.
    That is UAC, which you can turn off. Go into Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Turn UAC On or Off. Reboot and now you have no more annoying prompts.
    Also, as others have stated, UAC is much better in Windows 7 and does not prompt you anywhere near as much.
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    Re: Windows 7 - would you recommend it?

    Seems many people just cant get over one OS or another. The past is the past. Windows 7 is hte future
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    im still "angry" about dos 6. The only version of dos that required a service pack. It corrupted my hard drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDog888 View Post
    Seems many people just cant get over one OS or another. The past is the past. Windows 7 is hte future
    Here's to the future!!

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    lol glad to hear you finally got it. I'm off to pick up my SSD drive tonight after work so I'll be installing Windows 7 on that as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris128 View Post
    lol glad to hear you finally got it. I'm off to pick up my SSD drive tonight after work so I'll be installing Windows 7 on that as well
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