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    Re: [Serious]Why are you not a believer of the existence of God

    Quote Originally Posted by Blakk_Majik
    One big example is the birth of Jesus Christ. How, with all the knowledge we have of the human body, can one believe a virgin gave birth to another human being (especially considering artificial insemination was not around back then)? ...
    Well I think a couple of questions need to be answered, but the primary one is what is a virgin and how does one know if she is or is not a virigin.

    I think a virgin, in most definitions simply means hasn't had sex yet. That is more of a broad definition since the word "sex" can be interpreted differently too, but let's say sex = vaginal intercourse.

    The next question is how to prove virginity. Can we really, especially back then? Obviously the honor system doesn't really work unless you are from a noble family or a family of impeccable credentials (like that is good proof!).

    Well, what about the hymen.

    So does detached hymen = non-virgin. Definitely not. They hymen can be detached for many reasons/events other than sexual activity.

    Does intact hymen = virgin? Maybe, probably, but not 100% of the time. It is possible to have vaginal intercourse and not detach the hymen: some women must have their hymen surgically removed before the birth of their first child because it is so flexible or small that it remains intact during intercourse.

    The above discussion, though interesting, is a bit off topic. The question/point I believe is: Can a true virgin give birth without it being an immaculate conception? Answer: Yes. A woman can become pregnant even if her hymen is intact, is a virgin, and no wee-wee has entered her vagina. If sperm comes in contact with the labia or general vaginal area, it can move through the opening in the vagina and possibly lead to a pregnancy.

    Biology 101 is now over.
    Last edited by LaVolpe; Oct 16th, 2009 at 03:29 PM.
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