@Rob: Hey Rob, I know my visits seem to be lots at once then a big break don't they? good to see you still ontop of the charts by a milestone

@capsule: It's just a shock to people at first, it is better from a logic standpoint, which will make it easier for users starting out (its only harder for you because you learnt the old, illogical ways), as with all vb6->vb.net changeovers.

And you're not stopped from planting controls at design time and making an array from them... you can still do it, plant a bunch of buttons on your form button1 to button10 and on form load or better yet, in your designer startup code populate an array, .Add(Button1), .Add(Button2)... better yet.. write yourself a function that For Eaches all your cotnrols on the form and searches for those whose name start with "Button" or whatever and add them to the array, reuse your function in all future apps..

It's just a changeover problem for old users.