So when did JM decide to litter our posts with adwords? :mad:
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So when did JM decide to litter our posts with adwords? :mad:
VB Microsoft visual Studio VB.NET C#
Not sure when that was decided, exactly. Was implemented today.
boo hiss
Money talks I suppose.
And what's it doing to some tags ?????
Edited: Different browsers may be displaying things differently. Look at post #11 below for a screenshot of what I'm seeing.
Example 1 & 4 are identical, but displayed differently. Something is broke I think. This just started with the ad words addition. I have referenced this link from vbAccelerator several times and never before seen the behavior exhibited.
Example 1: The same URL using the Insert Link button in the editor
Example 2: This is same link using the noparse tag
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/vb/code/Libraries/Subclassing/Tile_a_Bitmap_Into_a_TextBox/article.asp
Example 3: This is the same link simply allowing option to "Automatically parse links in text"
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/vb...ox/article.asp
Example 4: The same URL using the Insert Link button in the editor
Is it just me or did I do something wrong? For those that know this stuff inside and out, simply hit the quote and look at the tags I used.
I haven't seen anything on the forum such as Adam posted (apart from his post).
The only thing I noticed that was different was with the first link, when you hover over it that ad for "Visual Studios 2010" appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaVolpe
Yep, its as if the code behind the ad words is attempting to do this within some tags; thus messing it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwalker83
I don't see it doing anything. I'm afraid I'm not seeing your point. What is it doing exactly?
You may want to post up what browser and version you are using just in case
Damn you beat me to it! I posted this in Brad's Test Area thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
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Although, it seems to me as long as you don't name the link you wont have problems with the pop ups.
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Originally Posted by JPnyc
As the above quote suggests the pictures only appear if you name the link but don't include the domain in the name.
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Originally Posted by JPnyc
Ok, if you aren't seeing the same thing I am, then something else may be up.
Browser: IE8, all the latest service packs
Look at the attached image. Example1 and Example4 are exactly the same text, copied and pasted. But one is displayed incorrectly
Attachment 76372
I think the adword thing should just be removed altogether, those get extremely annoying very fast
example number one is not properly formatted for linking on the forum. If you use BB code, which is the only way to get a link to appear on the forum, the function will not affect it, as is evidenced by the links below it which all function properly. VB will not parse HTML directly posted to the forum.
Ok, you lost me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
All I did, which is what I've been doing since I got to these forums was
1. Highlight the text I want to be linked
2. Click the "Insert Link" button in the editor
3. Paste the URL into the popup InputBox
4. Save the posting.
I didn't do anything manually.
Edited: The same exact link in Post #2 on this thread was working correctly 3 days ago, but now I see it the same way as Example 1 in the the screen shot above in post #11.
Although, visualAd doesn't use any link in his post and it still happens?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
His post doesn't contain any links, save those created by this function.
Ah, now I see it. Ok, I'll get the author to fix that.
edit: that's only on quick reply and only until page refresh. Upon refresh the link returns to normal
Regarding the issue I mentioned? If so, kewl!Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
On a recent reply, my frustration level skyrocketed a bit when I couldn't get a simple link to display correctly; finally just used noparse so I didn't confuse the poor OP even more. ;)
Edited: Regarding the refresh. Nope. I've refreshed this page a dozen times already -- no change.
Typing the link in manually will work.
Same here!Quote:
Originally Posted by LaVolpe
I just created a link using the same URL as you and naming it a key word I know is in the list. You can see in my post, link functionsQuote:
Originally Posted by LaVolpe
Sorry, don't mean to appear dense... Link functions post?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
Oh and if you are bringing this up to the author, here's another one.
In one of my replies, I used the word compiled, but the ad word triggered on the root word only. Looks a bit unprofessional IMO. Maybe suggest whole word searches? And possibly don't link to words surrounded by tags.
Edited: Hmmm, people still playing with it I guess. In preview mode compile (without the end "d") was ad-word linked, but it isn't anymore. And now that I edited the post, it is now linked again -- strange brew.
Actually.... JM doesn't own this forum anymore, so they didn't decide to clutter it up... ;)
Additionally, Ad words came to Jupitermedia several years ago. A 3rd party version has added on forums and sites for quite a while (see HTMLGoodies or Flashkit). The version here is much, much, much more tame than what is elsewhere, so I wouldn't complain too loudly, or the "powers that be" might ignore Joe and I and go with what is elsewhere since it has bigger ads, more links, and requires you to click to close the pop-up....
If you'd rather, we can add the right ad bar that is on all the other forums (see http://www.Codeguru.com/forum if you need an example). Of course, it wouldn't include the 'hide" link that is on Codeguru as we don't really do that.
All said, I think what is here isn't so bad compared to what most sites have. Additionally, with the restrictions we were able to include, there won't be an annoyingly large number of links on any thread.
Brad!
Actually, the links are dynamic. Because there are restrictions on how many words can be linked, the parser stops when it reaches the various criteria. As such, as posts are added or edited in a thread, the words that are linked might change if more targeted keywords are added.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaVolpe
As to the partial word linking -- I agree it looks goofy. That is something we'll request be fixed. Chances are, we will simply add more words (such as compiled) to help prevent the issue. ;)
Brad!
http://www.vbforums.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=17
I used the same URL and named it a keyword using the link button and it works.
Brad, thanx for the reply. But I still think something is not right with the links.Quote:
Originally Posted by brad jones
If you look at post #11 screenshot which is of post #4, you will see the links in Example 1 and 4 do not display the same, even though they contain exactly the same text. I simply copied and pasted the text. The link itself, including the http prefix is 104 chars; not that long really.
This may help troubleshooting the problem a bit easier. If you take what I posted in #4 (i.e., quote) and remove the first Example, Example 4 still displays correctly. So why does it display incorrectly when it is the first URL link in the posting? More of a question for you guys.
I just used the URL from example 1 in the post I linked you to. I used the insert link button in the text editor toolbar.
I see what you are talking about. I think its just a logic bug with the ad-word routines. Maybe it only hits on the first instance? Maybe because the asp in the original link ended in no punctuation? I don't know and honestly I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Not my code, out of my control, not my problem. I thought the very least I can do was raise the issue and vent, just a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
There's something wrong nonetheless. In the URL link I used, there is no target= anywhere in the link, so that was added by some other process.
That's what I said earlier. If you use quick reply, you will see the issue you are talking about. If you use regular reply you won't. However, that issue with quick reply, you're the only one who will ever see it unless you post the code the way you did, using the actual HTML. I mean unless somebody's looking over your shoulder. The moment you refresh the link will be fine. Try it again, you'll see.
Trust me. I refreshed over a dozen times, closed IE, came back, closed IE again, visited some other forum sections, came back. No matter what, I still see post #4's Example1 as in the screenshot in post #11. Absolutely no difference. The only thing I didn't do was clear my cookies and that I doubt has any bearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
Try it again.
Try what again? Refreshing? Ok, did it and I still see this in post #4:
asp" target="_blank">
Do you want me to go to advanced editing and change something and save it?
asp" target="_blank"> this cannot have been posted as it is via the URL insertion link. It is impossible. I defy you to re-create it because it cannot be done. What you did, is post the HTML. It's the only way it could possibly show up that way on the forum. There is no other way. You can refresh that until the second Ice Age and it will always look like that. And without this function it would still look like that because the forum does not parse HTML.
Since you are reluctant to try it again I will direct you again to the post of mine that I linked you to. I am using the exact same URL that you claimed you used in the first example. I used a keyword as you did. The link is completely functional once page is refreshed
please remove the spaces from what's below and post it. This is the URL from your first example, named using a keyword and using BB code, which is the only way you can get a link to appear as a link on the forum, and have text
[ URL="http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/vb/code/Libraries/Subclassing/Tile_a_Bitmap_Into_a_TextBox/article.asp"]asp.net[/URL ]
I took a look at post 4. Something is wrong. I see where Joe is coming from too, but when I look at the text posted to vBulletin (editing the post), I see that it truly is a URL tag that is being parsed wrong. At least in Firefox.
We'll look into this.
Thanks
Brad!
Nevermind, you're right, if I start a new thread using the example from your first post I get the same results. My apologies. Now we have to figure out why only when beginning a thread
I'm not reluctant, I obviously cannot guess what you mean by try it again? If you mean try adding the link again, outside of the quick reply, I'll try that now. But a little more clarity with the statement "try it again" would have been helpful.
P.S. I didn't copy the web contents, I simply copied the url from IE's address textbox. Something I've done 1000 times before. And I repeat, in that posting the text that follows Example 1: is the exact same text that follows Example 4:. I simply copy and pasted the text.
Now here goes some tests
1. Adding the link using the "Insert Link" button.
vbAcclerator Link
2. Copying and pasting what you posted, white space removed
asp.net
3. Using the same copy & paste, but changing the title to a word not in the list
LaVolpe
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Though I can't replicate the problem the 3rd time, twice it was done. Look at the link I referenced in Post 14. Whether you see the same thing I do or not, I don't know. But post #2 in that link (the same URL) displays just like Example 1, but that posting was done 3 days ago and hasn't been edited since. 3 days ago, it displayed fine and the OP visited the link. So, if I can replicate it twice but not three times, then I'd still lean towards a bug.
Here's another nasty. Hover over the link in para 2 above. You can't even click on the actual link, because the ad-word popup is in the way and it wants to take you to devx.com. That should be corrected too I would imagine.
Edited: If it pops up, it is not consistent.
Last but not least. Here is the acutal link information that shows up in post #4 above and the one linked to in post #14, using noparse tags to display it below.
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/vb/code/Libraries/Subclassing/Tile_a_Bitmap_Into_a_TextBox/article.%3Ca%20href=
Where the bogus link information came from? It's a bug, because it wasn't what I pasted in there. I copy & paste URLs the same way, every time: Right click on browser address textbox, select Copy, click on "Insert Link" button on editor's toolbar, right click on inputbox, click Paste.
Actually we need to figure out why it is parsing with an anchor tag, as it shouldn't be based on the code logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
The reason it is only at the beginning of the thread is because we limit the number of words that can be linked to ads in a thread and those are selected from the top of the thread then going down ;) :)
Regardless, this bug is noted and we are looking into it.
Brad!
You're right, its not bad, its disgraceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by brad jones
If I want to put links in my posts, it should be my decision. You have said time and time again, that this site isn't as bad as other JM sites, but that doesn't prevent it from getting worse. You are moving the goal posts.
Trying to scare us into not complaining? Heard it all before!!! Yawn!!Quote:
Originally Posted by brad jones
Thats my two cents. I suppose I could leave but I enjoy helping out every once in a while (sure I am not as frequent as I used to be). I am sure that some people will be put off a bit by it and go to your competitor sites more often, but who said that any of these descisions were meant to make good business sense.
Why are they created? It does it for VB, ADO at least... Very annoying.
There used to a link in the middle of screen - I thought it was enough...
Just noticed: I din't have to upload image - it did it anyway for those key words. :sick:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=604551
I can't say I'm happy about this. This is the one site where I do not block the ads or anything, but with this new add-on I doubt that will be the case for much longer.
Also, here's why I think there should be an FF add-on that'll remove these tags:
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=604559
To me there's just way too many links, it makes me go cross eyed and until I have an extension or these are removed, I will avoid threads like above.
your signature alone has more links than that whole thread.
we think this is resolved now. We would appreciate confirmation if it is in fact resolved. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by LaVolpe
Apparently auto links are gone but not for all the key words. Look at the first post.
nothing has been removed. The function was written so that no post would have more than two keywords linked, and no page load would have more than six.
When I posted almost every other word was a link, now virtually none of them are. I guess I should have taken a screenshot instead of just linking.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
I'm not exactly following you, JP... Popups are still there for say VB.Net but not VB or ADO.
Why is that and hy do we need them at all? It appears that nobody got definite answer so far.
It's because you posted via quick reply. In order to do this we had to use the same event as BB code parsing. That event fires both on quick reply and on page refresh. Our function is written in two parts. Only one part fires on submittal of quick reply. The second part, which checks for number of links and also checks for already existing links so it doesn't link them again, fires only on long reply or a page refresh.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuggaloBrotha
the same reason we need any ads. It supports the site. If the post of yours above were the first post in this thread, then two of them would have been links, but the limit has been exceeded with the first keyword of yours being linked. The restrictions we put on this was no more than two links per post, and no more than six per page load. So that means if there are three posts each containing two or more keywords, the fourth post will not display links regardless of how many keywords it contains. And regardless of how many keywords they contain, none of the first three will have more than two links addedQuote:
Originally Posted by RhinoBull
That explains. Thanks JP.
you're welcome.
What does QuickReply have to do with how many AdWord links I was seeing in the thread (since I haven't posted in that thread I had the link to, obviously the posts weren't mine)?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
What I was saying was in this thread: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=604559 earlier this morning it was just filled with AdWord links in everyone's posts top to bottom. So I posted the link here as an example, then by the time you viewed that thread all but a few of those AdWord links were gone and you commented on that, I then followed up on your comment stating that yes, all those AdWord links were basically gone (there were 3 or 4 in the entire thread) by that time, I guess I should have taken a screenshot of the thread this morning to get the point across instead of just linking to the thread.
in any case there should be no more than six per page load, and no more than two per post. If you find more than that, please let us know as long as it does not involve a post you added via quick reply, without a subsequent page refresh.
They are small and dont require a click. Much less then any other site with keyword ads. Plus only a few per thread. Not like serveral per post like on other sites.
If this is the small price we have to pay for keeping VBF up and running then so be it.
Why is AdWord's linking the 'atl' in the word greatly?
I also noticed it'll link the '.Net' in Tommy.Net's username. AdWords shouldn't be doing this, it looks very unprofessional.
I don't see it linking anything within the word greatly.
Here's the thread I found it in: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=604655Quote:
Originally Posted by JPnyc
Here's the screenshot:
Attachment 76384
Seems the max requirement has been hit in this thread so no more keyword linking.
vb vb.net config etc
Edit: Hmm, thats 7 for the thread
Edit 2: Its gone with the refresh of the page.
Appears that things are working properly now. :)
Please see the explanation above concerning quick reply. Thanks