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I went to a small store last night. One worker, no mask. Seemed very odd considering we have Delta ramping up here now.
She seemed new though. Maybe as they race to the bottom of the resume pile they are getting the dregs of society? Probably unvaccinated as well as not masking.
Many countries know the principles of atomic bombs, rockets, and aircraft carriers. How many countries can actually be created?
India can only imitate some simple compound drugs. For products with higher technological content such as vaccines, India is helpless. This is especially true for the new crown vaccine. Its research and development time is short and the technical requirements are high. Four countries, China, the United States, Russia and the United Kingdom have successfully developed vaccines. The AstraZeneca vaccine in the United Kingdom, Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer vaccines in the United States have very serious side effects, causing many deaths. Many countries have stopped them, even the United States and the United Kingdom themselves. Re-use, it can be seen that the technical difficulty of vaccine development is great, especially for India.
Funny, things look quite different out here in the free world.
Yeah, that's my view, too. China is pushing its vaccines wherever and however it can, but there's a reason why people would rather have one of the others if they can: If you're going to get a shot, you want it to do something.
There is an official document of the state circulating that says that people that lost their homes due to the fire can stay on temporary hospitality structures as long as they are vaccinated.
They will probably take this back tomorrow as it will be published more broadly but it's an example of what we talked before.
I LOT different. I don't know if that's the propaganda they're pushing in China or if xiaoyoa is just making this stuff up on his own. But all this my country is the greatest and your country sucks crap sound more like a political speech than chit chat. You love your country, great. But why make a point of degrading others.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
Maybe there is a little projecting going on...Quote:
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Here is the aforementioned nazi document.
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I just saw some local statistics for cases of Covid among the vaccinated. Of course, the data was presented with a moronic statistical analysis that obscures the severity of Covid among the vaccinated. For example, the "death rate" they presented was total Covid deaths among the vaccinated divided by the total number of people vaccinated.
Of the "breakthrough" cases, just over 9% required hospitalization, and just over 1% died. Those numbers are basically exactly the same as has been the case since the pandemic started in my state. Meaning the vaccine appears to have no effect on the severity of a Covid infection.
So, now that's another vaccination "narrative" upheaval.
We've been told (by various officials, including Joe Biden):
Vaccinated people can't catch Covid (clearly false).
Vaccinated people can catch Covid but they can't spread Covid (clearly false).
Vaccinated people can catch Covid but they will have a mild case and won't need to be hospitalized (clearly false).
Vaccinated people can catch Covid but they will have a mild case and won't die from it (clearly false).
But I guess none of that matters, right? I mean, so what if the data keeps showing that the Covid vaccine does little to no good for the people that experience breakthrough cases, and has the small chance of killing you outright, right? Shut up and get the shot or you'll lose your job!!!
It's hilarious to watch these trypanophobes concoct a narrative to justify their fears.
When the new crown epidemic started, the United States and other countries may have infected tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands of people.
As soon as China received such patients, the nationwide blockade was immediately initiated. In addition to the time of the onset of the virus, the virus was basically wiped out in about 2 months, and the virus was contained. It is a pity that almost half of the people in many countries around the world have been infected. The virus has become completely unstoppable, and it is impossible to rely on manual isolation to realize the automatic extinction of the virus.
At the beginning of the epidemic, people had imagined that the new crown would suddenly disappear like SARS, and they had hoped that all countries and regions would be cleared like China. Under the assumption that the epidemic can be ended in a short period of time, the new crown is just a encounter. During this period, all other factors can temporarily make way for the prevention and control of the new crown
But the prevalence of the delta strain has once again shattered this hope. The effect of multiple vaccines has changed from preventing infection to preventing severe illness... Relying on vaccines to resist infection and defeating the virus in a short period of time has once again become a fantasy.
A recent "New Yorker" article quoted Professor Jesse Bloom, a virologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in the United States: "The possibility of the new coronavirus being completely eradicated is zero."
Fires still burning in Greece,is this the 9th?10day? This is unbelievable, but OK let me say some words about covid.
As I've said, vaccination should not be mandatory. Everyone should decide if the vaccine help him/her.
As for the people that cannot do the vaccine, there is no more excuse that they will caught covid from the non vaccinated as equally vax and non vax can spread covid.
About needles. I hated needles, I was one step close to have trypanophobia but I had the misfortune to require an operation a couple of years ago, I didn't know then but for the anesthesia and when the operation ends they use some huge needles that if I'm not mistaken are called endopblebia, I had to translate so intravenously or all the needles are intravenous? These are needles that are 2 times the size and 3 times the thickness of normal ones and are used on operations.They are supposed to be removed after the patience completes the operation but, yep, they forgot to remove them from me for 3 days! As expected my hand caught all the colors of the rainbow. That and being in injected serum for 15 days at the hospital actually made me pass the needle fear. Doing a vaccine at that time would be similar in fear like raising my eyebrow, after years have passed I still don't like needles but I can tolerate them.
Clearly your post wasn't a response to mine. You're better than that, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
I'm just curious if the venomous vitriol against unvaccinated people subsides (as it should) or ramps up to 11 (just for the hell of it) if the statistics continue to demonstrate that the vaccination provides little to no enhanced protection for those who get breakthrough Covid cases. I'm not very optimistic, since it seems like a "no logic zone" for the rabid torch holders.
I wonder if that post would get you a warning/suspension on sites like Twitter and Facebook...your statement is flat out false and in my opinion detrimental to public health.Quote:
Originally Posted by OptionBase1
I have been vaccinated twice, but unfortunately I hardly feel any pain. China's vaccines are still quite good. In fact, it is basically not profitable by this alone, but it is very good for increasing international visibility to allow more countries to use Chinese vaccines. But the United States tried every means to promote their vaccines and banned Chinese exports. Even if the price of vaccines in India is only 10%, the United States prohibits all countries in the world from purchasing vaccines from India.
With the First World War, there was the Second World War, and then the atomic bomb was invented, the future nuclear war, and the war between space and interplanetary warships.
With the new crown virus, there will be hundreds of thousands of variant viruses that can spread from person to person, as well as viruses that spread through river water quality. The destruction of mankind is only a matter of time.
In the end, it was too simple for a plague to kill 50% of the world's population.
How many bacteria are there in the human body?
We are not humans, but a combination of humans and microorganisms! In this combination, the ratio of microorganisms to human cells is 9:1. There are more than 1 million species of bacteria in one palm of one's hand!
Studies have shown that more than 100 billion microorganisms live in the human body, with as many as 400 species distributed in the digestive tract, eyes, nose, mouth, skin and vagina.
A group of American scientists found that the human belly button is a bacterial nest that is parasitic with about 1,400 kinds of bacteria.
Just be glad that you can be surprised at that. Out here, fires happen every year, and it is generally understood that we can't put out any large fire. They will burn until the weather turns, which might be October. So, nine or ten days is nothing. Some of the fires started in June will likely burn until October.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
Of course, this is a fire ecology. Some of the trees put out cones that won't release their seeds without fire. The cones are basically sealed shut and require the heat of a fire to open them up, so no fire no trees.
Not the statistics you showed. Those say nothing at all about protection against COVID. You talked about the severity of breakthrough cases, not the incidence of breakthrough cases, so even if the statistics you posted were true they have nothing to do about the protection of the vaccines against COVID.Quote:
Originally Posted by OptionBase1
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonlprice
Edit to add: Another lol.
I will agree with that, for now. Time will tell if "breakthrough" cases are indeed some sort of one-off, or the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
But I stand by my statements earlier that what we've been told over, and over, and over about how a vaccinated person who gets Covid will have a much milder case, very little (or no) chance of needing to be hospitalized or die, is being shown to be completely untrue, at least where I live.
I can relate to that but bear in mind that we are a small country. Burning for 10 (11 today) days is just a ridiculous amount of time, I have never seen or heard 11 days burn in Greece so it's a first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
My sympathies to OptionBase1, I'm just not in the mood to talk about covid. Maybe next week when we settle down a little from the fires.
Vaccination is not magic. if you need that then you can put your faith in healing crystals, sage smoke, and meditation instead.
The purpose is to give your immune system a chance to safely recognize the virus and then remember what it looks like for subsequent attacks. The immune system is never perfect and in some people it may be limited in effectiveness. That can be due to genetics, nutrition, or damage by environmental hazards. If you get a concentrated exposure to a virus even good immunity has its limits.
Why is this so hard to understand? That much was pretty well known even back in the day when I got polio and smallpox vaccinations as a kid. How this is even an issue escapes me. All it shows is that people have gotten dumber.
I forgot YouTube:Quote:
Originally Posted by OptionBase1
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...masks-n1276534
You and Rand Paul can come here to VBForums where lies are not tracked as closely by our moderators...
.Quote:
A spokesperson for YouTube told NBC News that the video violated company policy on Covid-19 misinformation, which includes “claims that wearing a mask is dangerous or causes negative physical health effects” or that masks don't play a role in preventing the contraction or transmission of COVID-19
You can stand by your statements all you like, doesn't stop them being flat out wrong!Quote:
But I stand by my statements earlier that what we've been told over, and over, and over about how a vaccinated person who gets Covid will have a much milder case, very little (or no) chance of needing to be hospitalized or die, is being shown to be completely untrue, at least where I live.
It does amuse me that you accuse those of us who follow the science on the covid vaccines of being in a No Logic zone, considering what you have just said.
Also you seem to have taken a leaf out of a politicians playbooks by making statements, removing any context and/or making inaccurate attributions and then declaring them false or lies
https://www.health.state.mn.us/disea...stats/vbt.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by NeedSomeAnswers
5599 cases
514 hospitalizations (9.18%)
57 deaths (1.02%)
But, keep screaming lies!
I'll send him an invitation.Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
Looks like dialing it up to 11 it is. Good luck everyone.
I'm glad we're in agreement then. We were promised magic and the vaccine isn't magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilettante
Final thoughts. Don't let my words or anyone else's words on any internet forum guide your decision about getting a Covid vaccine or not getting one. If I were old and had pre-existing conditions like diabetes, I would have likely been first in line to get the thing.
I'm pretty sure you meant:Quote:
Originally Posted by OptionBase1
Final thoughts. Don't let my lies or anyone else's lies on any internet forum guide your decision about getting a Covid vaccine or not getting one. If I were old and had pre-existing conditions like diabetes, I would have likely been first in line to get the thing.
Barbs getting to 11 aside...if you don't want vaccinated fine. The current U.S. pandemic in a pandemic is largely caused by lots of people posting misinformation. At least please don't do that.
I edited my earlier posts to more accurately reflect what I meant. As originally written, they were implying that, all things being equal, getting the Covid vaccine leaves you as vulnerable to getting infected with Covid as someone who has never had Covid and never been vaccinated (essentially, that the vaccine does nothing productive). For the record, I do not believe that at all.
And feel free to use obnoxiously larger fonts as well as colors when you use the word "lies". Don't worry, I won't cry to the mods either, I'll let you get it out of your system.
Thanks! I'm a pretty visual guy and like things jumping out at people...I have a serious crayon collection.Quote:
Originally Posted by OptionBase1
It's hard to get an agreement on the numbers. Which makes sense, it just to early to tell. The NY Times put out this article, https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-vaccines.html
It has a couple of interesting charts. % of breakthrough cases and hospitalizations/deaths for vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. I like the fact it only includes data since vaccinations began.
The hospitalizations were between 5X - 185X higher for the unvaccinated, deaths were between 5X - 85X higher for the unvaccinated. So the range is significant, but even if getting vaccinated only give me 5X, I'll take it. Hell, I'll take 1.5X.
My daughter is a critical care nurse and she sees these needless deaths on a daily basis. On the other hand, my son wont get vaccinated, when I ask him why his answer is "I just don't want to". Which is scary for me, @ 22% of COVID death are people in his age group (45-64). He's 48 and healthy but that's certainly no guarantee. It seem to me a lot of the people that don't get vaccinated see it as a badge of honor. Silly lol
Just wait a month from now... about two weeks after all those bikers from Sturgis have returned home... we're going to see another spike... because you know they're not social distancing... or wearing masks... or getting vaxx'd.
tick tick tick...
-tg
I think I was in my twenties when the Swine Flu vaccinations were being given. At the time my reasoning was "I won't inject anything into my body the government is putting out". I'm probably not any smarter at 66 IQ wise, but I am wiser, I got mine ASAP.Quote:
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
The problem with the breakthrough cases is an assumption that you have equal risk of being a breakthrough case. If that's not true, then the rest of those stats are meaningless. There are people who are severely compromised in one way or another, and we really don't understand that all that well. We know a bunch of factors that increase risk, but we don't generally have a good idea of WHY they increase risk. Sometimes it's patently obvious (if you're immuno compromised...yeah, viruses are going to cause you trouble...and a few things like that), but often it isn't.
If breakthrough cases are randomly distributed among the population of vaccinated people, then you could have a statistical point. If they are not, then you're making a statistical mistake. If breakthrough cases are strongly skewed towards immunocompromised diabetics, then the fact that they have a similar death rate to the unvaccinated makes the vaccines VERY effective indeed. You'd be looking at a fraction of a fraction. The inner fraction might equal the general population, but since it's a fraction of a fraction, the overall rate is miniscule.
Yeah, a friend of mine's sister was vaccinated but caught COVID and just about died. But she was @ 76yrs, frail and was also fighting some type of Leukemia.
I just read this article, "Anti-vax nurse injects 8,600 with saline instead of COVID vaccine"
https://www.foxnews.com/health/germa...vid-19-vaccine
Strange thing was, it didn't even shock me, didn't even surprise me.
In other countries, it is normal for the bushfires to continue to burn for several months. This is totally unacceptable in China, and many officials will be fired and put in jail. So basically it can be controlled within a few days to one or two weeks.
Isn't that the case in theory? If there are too many criminals in a city, it can only increase the number of police by 1, 2, or 10 times. It can not be said that the state has regulations that only 20 people can do nothing. It will take a few years before the report is issued to approve the addition of 5 new places.
(This is the case in the United States. When the epidemic is coming, government officials have studied whether or not to wear masks. Government officials have studied for a year. The number of people infected in the country is about 50%. All hospital beds are filled with patients who are dying. This is the short-term policy of wearing masks.
Therefore, as soon as the new crown epidemic comes, China will immediately build 100,000 wards, and if necessary, 1 million isolation wards can be completed in a short time. (Except for China, no country can do it) (All staff are isolated, and no other country can do it)
China uses its army to fight against major disasters such as floods and plagues.
Think about the explosion of a nuclear power plant in the Soviet Union. After the accident, it was concealed for many days. It was a crime.
Is freedom alright? The state requires masks to be worn, but officials and managers of various states and counties have the right to decide not to wear masks or issue orders to prohibit wearing masks. Individuals can also gather tens of thousands of people in a demonstration to oppose vaccinations and wear masks.
If you are a Fortune 500 company, everyone has free working hours. You can go to work at 8 o'clock in the morning or 12 noon. Deliberately not going to work for 2 days, and working overtime in a few days to make up.
Such freedom is good for individuals, is it a disaster for the country’s enterprises?
The quality of some vaccines is really poor, and it may really kill people or infect more people with the new coronavirus. The state and pharmaceutical companies make high profits from it.
In this case, refusal to vaccinate or wait for half a year and then to vaccinate, it is better to wait for the technology to mature before vaccinating. Don't be a guinea pig, a guinea pig.
If the state forces everyone to be vaccinated, it will become the same as colluding with pharmaceutical companies to sell fake drugs.
The result of the monopoly is that other countries have stronger drug efficacy, safer, and cheaper vaccines that cannot enter the national procurement list. Illegal pharmaceutical companies have a good relationship with the government and have obtained more orders. All citizens of Baixing, just like commodities, were paid more for medicines, causing more undue deaths and injuries.
VaccinationMachination
6 hours ago
Replying to freeman0323
I just resigned from my nursing job because they are forcing all staff to get the vaccine. I’m not the only one leaving because of it. We are not morally obligated to receive any vaccine. I actually am vaccinated, but it made me so sick that I almost died.
5 hours ago
Replying to DisabledNavyVet
Two months after my second vaccine shot, I had a blood test that shows I have a ton of antibodies. If anyone has a doubt about what they got, there is a blood test available. My spouse actually had Covid... and had only ONE symptom, loss of taste. Got over it... and has more antibodies than I do
China's Xiaomi phones sold for 1999 yuan 10 years ago, while Apple phones sold for more than 8,000 yuan. It's 10th anniversary, Xiaomi is engaged in activities, and the first batch of users who buy mobile phones can get free. It is to give you 1999 yuan (300 US dollars) to buy a new mobile phone. For this reason, Xiaomi will incur a loss of 400 million yuan, which is a boon for the first batch of users.
But in the first generation of mobile phones, the system cannot be shut down with the power button, and can only be restarted by removing the battery. The heat is serious and there are too many problems. Many vaccines and medicines are like this, false propaganda, and the effect is very poor. People who were vaccinated became guinea pigs.
The new crown epidemic is under control, cement highways and high-speed broadband are connected across the country. High-speed railways are spread throughout the country. Many things must be super-controlled and strategically placed by the state.
In this regard, India is still using the old railway built by the British 80 years ago.
Water from southern China is transferred to the north, with a scale of 44.8 billion cubic meters
Pakistan’s West-East Water Diversion Project, with an annual water transfer volume of 14.8 billion cubic meters
California North-South Water Diversion. Annual water transfer volume of 5.2 billion cubic meters
Southern California has a dry climate, but sweet grapes are planted in the desert area. The agriculture is developed and the economy is prosperous, thanks to the California water transfer project completed 40 years ago.
The water transfer plan was passed with a marginal advantage of 51% to 49%; according to the official website of the California Water Transfer Project, only one county in the northern region where the water was transferred has more than half of the voters in favor. The source of funds is raised through the issuance of bonds, and the state government does not need to pay a cent.
Thanks to these long-distance water transfer projects, California’s dry valleys have developed irrigated areas of more than 20 million acres of fertile land, benefiting 23 million people, and California has developed into a state with the largest population, the largest irrigated area, and the highest food production in the United States. , The state's economic strength ranks first in the United States
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@xiaoyao,
Are you really a robot account? Are you really using a robot to post automatically?
Ah you mistake me, I dont think your lying I just think your misrepresenting. I will split this in to two so can seperate my answers so firstly I will address what you said hereQuote:
Originally Posted by OptionBase1
This is just clear misrepresentation nobody claimed that the Vaccine was 100% effective and that was before the Delta variant.Quote:
We've been told (by various officials, including Joe Biden):
Vaccinated people can't catch Covid (clearly false).
Vaccinated people can catch Covid but they can't spread Covid (clearly false).
Vaccinated people can catch Covid but they will have a mild case and won't need to be hospitalized (clearly false).
Vaccinated people can catch Covid but they will have a mild case and won't die from it (clearly false).
Your absolute statements leave no space for context and put out words that I am absolutely sure no doctors said, and likely most Politicians didn't either.
The Delta Variant has changed the picture though and certainly some claims made before it took hold are now wrong, that doesn't mean they weren't said in good faith at the time.
The Covid Vaccines right now help protect against the Delta Variant, just less well.
Covid Infection are around 3 times lower in double vaccinated people, so your 3 times less likely to get Covid if Vaccinated than not.
In April Public Health England reported the result of a large study involving over 365,000 households which found that transmission is between 40 - 60% less likely for the double vaccinated. So yes you can transmit the virus if your vaccinated but your significantly less likely to.
Finally the statements about vaccinated people not being hospitalised or not dying again you misrepresent here, of course you can get very ill or die with when double vaccinated, however the likelihood is significantly lower to the point were something like 90%+ of all deaths are amongst the Unvaccinated.
Considering that most people who are at high risk have been double vaccinated by now that should really tell you something.
Secondly the statistics you show dont say what you think they do, well at least if you think that they somehow prove that the vaccine is ineffective in stopping severe infection and deaths.
Proper context and comparison is needed and you are not doing that. Also you seem to be ignoring all the other reports from hospitals around the US which say that nearly all deaths are amongst the unvaccinated, as if they dont matter and only this tiny bit of data your looking and your interpretation of it does.
I am sure you probably think the opposite and that I am the one lacking context, and looking at the data incorrectly, however I would just say this.
You either believe the vast majority of Scientist and Doctors around the world and the testing, data and analysis they release and understand that is a changing picture which will get updated and changed as more data comes in, or you dont and you believe that you know better and can interpret data better than they can.
I am not a robot. Just used the web page online translation. Some meanings may be translated incorrectly.
I am mainly expressing a point of view.
Sometimes it is necessary to isolate the entire country, the sooner the effect, the better.
Sometimes wearing a mask is also necessary.
Sometimes the vaccination also requires the use of state power to enforce it.
But unsafe vaccines may cause accidental deaths of some people.
"We don't need to do anything" first put forward by the United Kingdom. We wait for the virus to eliminate itself or coexist with us. It was this kind of thinking that led to the deaths of so many people. Collective immunity has become like Bitcoin, a virtual underworld-like bank, and hundreds of different virtual currencies are devouring the normal financial system.
China has completely banned Bitcoin. What will happen to the United States and the United Kingdom?
We must believe that mankind can change society, and it is also possible for mankind to eliminate the virus. Whenever a crisis comes, it will be solved in the earliest time and win victory with the least cost.
Don't let the nuclear power plant explode and think about how to prevent it. We live with nuclear-contaminated water and air, and our lives are reduced by 50%. It really cannot be done.
Yesterday, the number of newly diagnosed people in the United States was 120,000, India increased by 60,000, and China increased by 51. In the face of the numbers, it completely proves that China's initial blockade of cities is correct.
This is because China’s economic conditions are not good. If everyone has money, if they have all bought insurance, if there are enough hospital beds and enough medicines. If the infection is 100%, the death toll will not be many, because in the later stage, the disease can be cured, but the medical expenses are more expensive. Some patients in the United States spent 3 million US dollars to achieve basic treatment success.
When the virus came, you couldn't buy N95 masks for $30
The biggest danger now is that the virus is like the Second World War, infecting all human beings in the world. Eventually it will lead to 100 kinds of virus, 1000 kinds of mutations. In a few years, there may be a variant with an infection rate, a mortality rate of 10 times, and a 100 times higher. Zombie city, the whole city is dead, everything will happen.
Since July 7th, the number of new coronavirus infections in the United States has become more and more serious. The day before yesterday, it increased by about 240,000 in a single day, and it became the most serious country in the world. Of course, because Americans generally have better economic conditions, they have enough money for treatment. Unlike India, if so many people were infected, the whole country would burn the bodies. From the satellite, it would look like a fire broke out all over the country.
I was reading an article yesterday regarding the need for booster shots that talked about a couple of studies that looked at the breakthrough cases - one found that 44% of the cases were immunopcompromised, the other had a figure of 40% immunocpmpromised/immunosuppressed... which is something that needs to be taken into consideration with these numbers as well... It's also disconcerting since that means the other 60% AREN'T immunocompromised in some way... O.OQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
-tg
The proportion of American gold medals in the Wuhan Military Games, where is the confidence of herd immunity in many European countries?
https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=166...=spider&for=pc
China ranked first and won 138 gold medals.
Russia is the second child,
I’m afraid you won’t believe it. The U.S. ranks 38th.
The military elite of more than 300 people didn't even win a gold medal.
As soon as the military games ended,
These Americans started a crazy shopping spree all over Wuhan.
According to media reports, the US military delegation is not far from the seafood market where the virus outbreak occurred.
China: 553 people participated and won 239 medals, including 133 gold medals.
Russia: 257 people participated and won 161 medals, including 51 gold medals.
United States: 182 people participated and won 6 medals, including 0 gold medals.
South Korea: 175 people participated and won 24 medals, including 3 gold medals
Well I've had a proper scare over the last week. My doubly vaxxed elderly Mum and Dad came down with it and my anti-vaxxer who's in her early 50s got it. They all seem to be out the other side now but it's been a tense time.
There are several kinds of vaccines that have great side effects, causing blood clots, and instead allow normal people to be infected with the coronavirus due to vaccination.
Therefore, the higher the vaccination rate, the higher the mortality rate, and the infection rate of the new variants has increased several times, and eventually 50-90% of Americans will be infected with the coronavirus. Perhaps in the future, almost 100% of people will be infected with the virus, and only a very small number of people with strong antibodies will not be infected.
China uses inactivated vaccines, which means that they have only antibody components and will not be infected with the virus due to injection. The biggest disadvantage is that the efficiency may be less than 80%.
But for vaccines with weak viruses, if 10% of people are infected with the virus and spread 10 times, then requiring everyone to be vaccinated will cause 100% of people to be infected with the virus.
The world's first inactivated COVID-19 vaccine, why can China's central enterprises?
Why domestic new crown vaccines, especially inactivated vaccines using traditional technology routes, can enter the world's first echelon this time and continue to lead? Why don't the West make inactivated vaccines, but instead flock to mRNA vaccines and adenovirus vector vaccines? Faced with the continuous emergence of mutant strains around the world, why can inactivated vaccines still effectively respond?
Safety comes first, and the safety of the people has always been the top priority. Just like the national isolation, you can not make money for a few months. If your life is saved, you can earn more money.
The first is a breakthrough in the screening of vaccine production strains, and the second is a breakthrough in inactivation. The key to the inactivation process is inactivation. It is easy to kill the virus, but it is difficult to kill it just right, but it can also stimulate immunity.
"It won't work if it has been inactivated or not enough," Yang Xiaoming said. "If it has been inactivated, the structure of the virus will be destroyed or crushed, that is, if the antigen activity of the virus is destroyed, it will not work. The virus has'on it.' Coronal protrusion. If the nail-like protrusion falls off by more than 50%, it is basically invalid."
The third breakthrough is purification technology. It's like a high-purity drug. Why did Apple's mobile phones sell for 1,200 US dollars earlier, while Xiaomi's mobile phones only sold for 300 US dollars? The main reason is the in-depth development of the Apple mobile phone system, which is perfect and smooth, and the power saving speed is fast.
The WHO's assessment shows that the Sinopharm vaccine is easy to store and distribute, which is a great benefit to the vast number of developing countries.
China's vaccine storage conditions are 2-8 degrees Celsius, and the existing vaccine cold chain system and even household refrigerators can meet the requirements. In contrast, the US Modena vaccine storage temperature is minus 20 degrees Celsius, and Pfizer vaccines need to be stored at minus 70 degrees Celsius.
As a result, many invalid vaccines are sold to other countries due to excessive temperature, or the gift vaccines received are expired or invalid defective products.
At least we may already be burning through Delta here. The 7-day average rate of new infections is down. Of course it might be a fluke in the numbers, or a phantom of infrequent reporting just as the recent rise was.
We were once that arrogant, too. Of course, it may be that China doesn't have a fire ecology, though I would expect that it might exist in the arid west.Quote:
Originally Posted by xiaoyao