Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

Get you vaccine get you life back.
How stupid does he think US people are? Get your vacciiinee, get you ice cold vaccine here!!Get you cheap luscious vaccine. Needles, getsya free needles here. Vaccinate in summer time, beeee beeee (it's the sheep sound, I don't know how to write that in English. Is it beee, mpeee, beouizzzz?) !
Anyhow we, the unvaccinated, are in great risk of getting the covid from the vaccinated so I propose we cattle up the vaccinated and let us get our lives back.
Also since vaccinated propose no risk at all from the unvaccinated, why are you busting our chops? You got the needle, you are good to go, you don't have no danger from us but we are in danger from you, so let us be and ppplleease don't eat us! (the zombie theory).
My first few swims where on a kind cold sea, although the temp was 35 but it will get better late this week so I'll be going back in a day or two. That freaking cove is cold even with 40 degrees but it's the first few swims, then you are good to go. Of course I always use my mask and gloves when going to the water :D
Funny here covid cases are dropping with vaccinations into a stall mate. Hmm, maybe because every flu that exists is not as contagious at summer?Or maybe because it is summer?Or is it maybe because we have summer?
But the media...Those lovable media..If you could only understood Greek and hear what they are saying...

Not sure what the CDC is trying to tell us here, but Dr. John Campbell takes a shot at interpreting it:

https://youtu.be/jJpyvAv-oFQ

Point being, they are now admitting that early studies show significant natural immunity was developed before vaccination had the chance to get started.

Please don't ruin their vaccination gonorrhea.
I'm on vacation till 1 July, everyone is not using masks or any other protection here enjoying the beach.Flu in the summer, pff. Media bombarding all day long that we must vaccinate or we won't be able to go anywhere, do anything or get to our working environment, the fascistic Government is giving it all, we are (as we say in Greek) "write them where ink does not get to" , that means, we don't give a F about their propaganda.
I got sunburns the last few days, even with a v50 sunblock I am getting burned. Damn white skin! Usually takes a month before I get used to the sun and I can drop the sunblock protection volume. Right now I'm scratching, writing, scratching etc... Any sunblock vaccine?

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Anyhow we, the unvaccinated, are in great risk of getting the covid from the vaccinated so I propose we cattle up the vaccinated and let us get our lives back.

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Err, that is exactly the opposite of how vaccines work.

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Also since vaccinated propose no risk at all from the unvaccinated, why are you busting our chops? You got the needle, you are good to go, you don't have no danger from us but we are in danger from you, so let us be and ppplleease don't eat us! (the zombie theory).

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How about the people who are vulnerable but can't have the vaccine for other reasons, they still need protecting.

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(it's the sheep sound, I don't know how to write that in English. Is it beee, mpeee, beouizzzz?) !

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Is that the sound of people following the conspiracy theories about vaccines and how they make you magnetic / contagious / better at receiving 5G signals?

I can't but notice how your avatar seem ideal for the discussion.
Just kidding.
Those conspiracy theories are lame.
Your first comment, I was joking, usually people don't get the jokes so...
Second comment. Yes that is a good point. I am not sure, probably suitable medication and monoclonics when they are on the death row.
Our Archbishop fell in to this category so he was monocloned and he's OK at the moment but there probably may be other methods. Probably what method would be used for a flu, the same method.

The issue of the thread was resolved?? :eek: :D :afrog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJSUKDng_Ww

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Have you considered maybe people do get jokes, just not yours :p

Possible :D
I think I can do better in Greek but then I would be laughing by myself.

Hmm, "vaccine immunity escape" seems to be a new phrase around the Indian "Delta" variant, though the studies do not count any other forms of acquired immunity so I'm not sure they represent a comment on vaccines despite the phrasing. I also didn't see anything that made any distinction among vaccines (for all we know the issue might be all around one less effective vaccine).

About all we know is "Delta is bad, m'kay?"

U.K. seems on fire with Delta right now, making it likely their spreaders will hop on planes and start dropping it all over the world as they did with the Kent "Alpha" a few months ago. Much of the U.S. still hasn't been exposed to Alpha yet, so no telling the whammy they'll take when Delta arrives there along with it.

As you'd expect, parts of the U.S. under summer heat now are seeing higher infection rates as they huddle indoors under air conditioning. Those in more temperate zones have finally gotten back outside and now enjoy plummeting rates in turn. California is waiting for the other shoe to drop yet.

It's a shame you stay indoors in the summer.
Staying out will dispose flu in general. The last couple of weeks we dropped from 1500 cases per day to 450 and assuming the the government fascists inflate the numbers, we are close to 100 - 200 cases and dropping. Of course no masks no distances no gloves for no one.
We have a holiday on Monday so most people left the city yesterday, the beach today (as I can see from the porch) will be crowded like hell. So I must bring my own sea umbrella as I probably won't find a public one, but we are 5 people so one umbrella won't do. As you can see I'm in agony here, I'm very cautious about summer burns and I take every precaution for something that is actually a thread,so I won't get the sunburn blues. TV terrorized less with covid today, most probable because the fascists went to the sea for the 3 day vacation and left us alone. We have 34 degrees today and raising every day. On Wednesday we will reach 40 degrees but I have some work and I must get to the city. So it will be a couple of hell days for me but I'll leave again until 1 July as we are opening for business but will be back at the sea soon as I haven't got a single day from my leave of absence (because,err, we where covidized and closed).
But for now, LET'S FIND A SHADE AT THE BEACH!!!!!

I don't have a beach to retreat to. Actually, I do at the moment, but the water is the cold Pacific, not somewhere you could swim for long, and with very strong currents. Still, in a couple days, I'll be back in the desert, where the temperatures will be up around 100, the sun will shine for something like 27 hours per day, and...yeah, I won't be spending large amounts of time outside.

Our cases are dropping, as well, but we'll see. Vaccination is spotty, with the area I live being reasonably responsible, but the area around that...not so much.

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Michigan's remaining restrictions on gatherings and masks will be dropped next week, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Thursday, ending 15 months of broad limits on businesses and indoor activities in the state.

Under the changes that take effect Tuesday, maximum indoor capacity limits will increase to 100%, and the state's mask mandate for non-vaccinated people will be removed 10 days earlier than the original goal of July 1. Indoor capacity currently is capped at 50%.

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Whitmer rescinds Michigan's gathering, mask rules starting Tuesday

We'll see if it lasts with "Delta" lurking in the bushes.

Oh, Canada:

https://youtu.be/T-VFzyyAhg0

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I haven't heard that phrasing before but I agree it's miss-leading. When we talk about escape variants what we're referring to is that a variant escapes our immunity, whether that immunity was acquired through vaccination or any other means.

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+1 to this and I don't feel it's being said enough. Before Covid we used to talk about herd immunity and viewed it as a good thing. If enough of our "herd" is immune, the virus cannot spread so the vulnerable are protected - our herd is immune. Herd immunity is the solution state to this problem. Unfortunately the phrase has been co-opted to refer to herd immunity acquired through allowing uncontrolled spread which is a crazy strategy when dealing with a virus as deadly as this one. That co-option is preventing us from having a discussion about why we should be aiming for herd immunity in order to protect the vulnerable and you end up with anti-vaxxers using those who can't be vaccinated as a justification for not getting themselves vaccinated.

I don't think we the non vaccinated are using the ones that cannot be vaccinated as an example.
And I could say that personally since a couple of years ago a had an operation that, log story short, is very dangerous for thrombosis so I probably can't be vaccinated.
But I never gave that argument out .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57446583
Ship full of vac zombies get quarantine.

Branded like the Jews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBB4c3toEtA

It's just keeps getting better. I'm amazed with the monkey theory, I'm seeing it take place and I can't believe it.

Anyhow, ooommmm, bathtime bathtimeeee, ommmm. Let's see... 34 degrees today. I escaped the sunburns yesterday as we found a public umbrella and I went to turbo speed to claim it. Today would be more difficult than yesterday, some super markets or bars where working but today everything is closed so everyone will be fighting for shade at the beach. I though about snizzing and coughing (I actually had to translate that as I couldn't remember the spelling) my way through but no one cares about summer flues. Maybe impersonate typhus ? :eek:

Dropping like flies.
https://greatgameindia.com/bbc-journ...lness-vaccine/

It's funny how UK media calling this a "short illness" , remind me of our own media. Of course there is no comparison as our media are 10 times worst.

Jerusalem Post.
Dr Tal Brosh head of Infections team at Samson Assuta Ashdod Hospital.


In Great Britain, the cases of the DELTA mutation are galloping, while in Israel, viral infections , unknown for this time of the year reap people.

These are on top 5 of the most vaccinated countries.

It’s likely that 50,000 Americans have already been killed by covid vaccines.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-...aths-2021.html

DR Peter McCullough, most cited doctor at covid treatments at national library of medicine:
If this would be any other vaccine it would have been pulled from the market right now:
https://assets-global.website-files....conclusion.pdf

Drugs good fire bad, err, vaccine BS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of5_oiuqDp8

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It’s likely that 50,000 Americans have already been killed by covid vaccines.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-...aths-2021.html

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Over and over you keep trying to push this lie.

VAERS DOESN'T SAY ANYONE HAS DIED FROM THE VACCINE.

This is what they say,

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When reviewing data from VAERS, please keep in mind the following limitations:
VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning that reports about adverse events are not automatically collected, but require a report to be filed to VAERS. VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.

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Everyone who got the vaccine will die some time afterwards. Everyone who didn't get vaccinated will die some time in the future.

It's not my conclusion and the article says "likely".
Just take it on with your doctors not me but I believe even if it is true you will still be in denial as you cleverly ignored any other link. So be it.
Israel hypervacinated is closing it's borders again due to Delta.

Doctor 61 died after 2nd dose of vaccine from cardiac arrest.
Systemic channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngUROv5Zf0&t=133s

That's all pretty much anti-math. Even if we take that "possible that 50,000 Americans have been killed by the vaccine" as being true, we also have somewhere over 500,000 who have been killed by COVID, regardless of how badly you count. So, even in the worst case scenario that the report is actually true, we'd STILL be better off vaccinating.

However, that article is nonsense anyways, and I have no hope for the others, either. It's a case of having a result you want to reach and massaging some data to show that. I remember a similar campaign regarding the stock market....but I suppose the analogy is too US-specific to be worth repeating, as the argument was based on the DOW, which is a US stock market metric that may not mean anything to anybody else. Had I actually listened to that, I would be a whole lot poorer, but fortunately, I knew enough about math to realize that the advice was based on seriously specious interpretation of the data.

One thing that I found amusing from the first link was the bit about 4,000 people have already died after receiving the vaccine. There have been several hundred million doses of the vaccines administered in the US alone. I've got some bad news, in case you haven't heard it: ALL of those people will die in the next 80-100 years, almost certainly. Of course, most of the unvaccinated people will also die in the next 80-100 years, but as it turns out, there will be more unvaccinated people who will NOT die in that time than vaccinated people.

I hope I don't have to explain that there's a reason for that which has nothing to do with the vaccine.

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That's all pretty much anti-math. Even if we take that "possible that 50,000 Americans have been killed by the vaccine" as being true, we also have somewhere over 500,000 who have been killed by COVID, regardless of how badly you count. So, even in the worst case scenario that the report is actually true, we'd STILL be better off vaccinating.

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An you are OK with that?! You really are OK with that?

500,000 is also nonsense , they where counting even a bike accident to covid. But still better off vaccinating, wow... OK no problem, I'm in Athens for 2 days will be going to the sea soon, the sun the sea the food the girls the parties. CU.

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500,000 is also nonsense , they where counting even a bike accident to covid. But still better off vaccinating, wow... OK no problem, I'm in Athens for 2 days will be going to the sea soon, the sun the sea the food the girls the parties. CU.

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No, they were not. One could argue about the 500,000, since it is now June of 2021, but if you look at the total number of deaths in the US according to the CDC for 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020, you see the death rate going up by roughly 20,000 each year...until 2020, when it went up by nearly 400,000. The increase in the total deaths in the preceding years is understandable, since the US population is aging as the baby boom generation is getting kind of long of tooth, these days. We also have a declining life expectancy, probably due to our collective weight, but possibly also due to increasing stress. However, it's hard to explain away that jump from 20,000 to 400,000 by any means other than COVID. Oddly, the death count due to COVID by the CDC for 2020 matches the change in total deaths for the year. It's almost as if they weren't lying.

As for being OK with that, what in the world are you talking about??? Are you suggesting that 500,000 is less than 50,000?

Sure, you don't believe the 500,000 and you do believe the 50,000. If you look into the data, the 500,000 stands up because it explains the sudden jump in total deaths (or at least for 2020, it does, since the total deaths aren't reported for 2021 for obvious reasons). If you look at the 50,000, it's an extrapolation off of a laughably coincidental number (people die after vaccinations...cause people die, the number killed by the vaccines is pretty much zero, aside from allergic reactions). Still, if you feel that the 500,000 should be 0, and the 50,000 is correct, then you'd be right: I wouldn't be okay with that. If you recognize that the 500,000 figure is supported by multiple lines of calculation, and also believe the 50,000 is correct, then you'd be wrong: I would still support something that saved 90% of people who would otherwise die. If you recognize that the 500,000 figure is supported, and also believe, as I do, that the 50,000 figure should be far below 1,000, and possible below 100, then you'd also be wrong: Why would I NOT support that?


I will also add that you have shown that Greece didn't have the death rate that the US had. For you, doubting mortality numbers does make sense. You had no increase in total mortality. That's not the case in the US. You've just been lucky in that way, but it doesn't mean that other countries were equally lucky.

I misplaced a zero. Thought you wrote 5mil and copy pasted the rate.
Even worse.What I asked is that in a theoretic scenario it is OK to vaccinate and accept 50,000 vaccine deaths for a flu virus.
I am bored to death to search the same VAERS source to find the "fake" vaccine death of other vaccines in accordance to the "fake" covid deaths but if I remember correctly the "fake" other vaccines deaths added all 15 or 30 years of cases are lower than the "fake" covid deaths. So even if the numbers are fake, they are fake for both cases.
So the scenario is total covid "fake" vaccine deaths are all the previous 15 or 30 years "fake" deaths of other vaccines. I hope now the VAERS numbers are not correct for the non covid and fake for the covid vaccines but I'm prepared to read that also.
Fake * fake = true :D
I think I'm covered.
Ah, also view the other links of your doctor on drugs if you like.

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I am bored to death to search the same VAERS source to find the "fake" vaccine death of other vaccines in accordance to the "fake" covid deaths but if I remember correctly the "fake" other vaccines deaths added all 15 or 30 years of cases are lower than the "fake" covid deaths.

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The VAERS numbers CAN'T be fake because the VAERS system make no judgement on the reported deaths. They don't say anything.

Same. The don't say anything non covid vaccines vs the don't say anything covid vaccines.
Just say you don't trust VAERS on anything. That should cover it.

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Same. The don't say anything non covid vaccines vs the don't say anything covid vaccines.
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Yeah I honestly don't know what the purpose of VAERS is. Anyone can just enter information. There is no data verification. The data seems meaningless.

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It's a useful data source but needs to be seen for what it is. It's a big bucket that anyone can lob a pebble into that says "I've had a vaccine recently and I've now got some symptom". It doesn't validate that the report is true. It doesn't validate that the report is not being submitted times. It doesn't validate that the symptom is in any way a result of the vaccine.

It's useful because researchers can look for patterns that might require further empirical research to examine whether there's a causative link - that's a VERY useful function. The problem is that those with an agenda want to use the data as a proof of a causative link before that research is done.

A sieve working off a data dredge. I've written one of those, but decided not to release it. While it was useful for finding things worth studying further, I knew people would try to use it's results as if they had meaning. It's not true, but you can't convince people of that, even if they are reasonably familiar with statistics.

Yes but if you accept it as a anonymous study guide , you either accept the fact that this study shows that 30 years of vaccination led to less death that covid vaccines or that the results on both cases are crumbled , it's one or the other.
I just show that after astra they are thinking of pushing out of the market pfizer but I'm not sure if that is valid, as I have very limited internet here and I get tons of lag, so I tent to use it as little as possible.

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Yes but if you accept it as a anonymous study guide , you either accept the fact that this study shows that 30 years of vaccination led to less death that covid vaccines or that the results on both cases are crumbled , it's one or the other.
I just show that after astra they are thinking of pushing out of the market pfizer but I'm not sure if that is valid, as I have very limited internet here and I get tons of lag, so I tent to use it as little as possible.

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Actually, that result is not what you get from that data. The only thing that you can take from the data is a correlation, but there is fair reason to believe the correlation is an auto-correlation, which would be just short of meaningless. After all, for the 30 years of vaccinations, it stands to reason that there have been millions of deaths, it's just that they weren't reported to VAERS for a couple different reasons. The simplest, and most amusing, reason is that people who die tend not to report their cause of death, but more seriously, you might say:

1) VAERS hasn't been well known...EVER, though it also hasn't been around in this form for 30 years. This means that reporting on past cases will be far less, or even absent entirely.
2) VAERS is correlational by nature. This means that there is no cause and effect between the vaccine and the symptom, only the assumption of one. This has a perverse impact, because if people are more alarmed about a vaccine, they are more likely to attribute ANY following event to the vaccine, related or not.
3) The COVID vaccine is VERY well known, with lots of passions on all sides. This means that people are far more likely to report symptoms to VAERS than they would have for vaccines that have been around for a very long time.

You might be able to get at some of those by looking at the reporting by year for different vaccines. For example, I would be surprised if the tetanus shot showed much of anything. I would expect it to have zero reports before VAERS was a thing, a low number of reports as the VAERS system went online, with that group slowly rising due to the rising awareness of VAERS (as opposed to a change in the symptoms resulting from the tetanus shot), and then I would expect that level to plateau. If a similar pattern were shown for other common childhood vaccines, then that might be the baseline. You might then compare that baseline against other common childhood vaccines to see whether there was some issue with them. Those that plateaued at a higher level might be ones that warranted further investigation. That would mean nothing for the COVID vaccines, though, because of the far greater publicity and emotion surrounding them.

Another interesting one to look at for a baseline would be rabies. Considering that the untreated fatality rate is so close to 100% as makes no difference, I would expect that the VAERS system might have no reports at all. Considering that you are more likely to survive shooting yourself in the head than not treating rabies (that's true, as you have SOME chance of surviving shooting yourself in the head), people may well dismiss any side effects as being irrelevant.

VAERS started in 1990 and is used from both FDA and CDC so I would think data from 1990 vs 1 year of data to be higher. But if you say that it was not used, well, OK, I'm willing to think that you have valid sources for that but I would think that FDA ad CDC would much rather prefer to conceal cases rather than putting them on VAERS on the other hand, I'm might be thinking the Greek Government mentality, that they actually doing that.
Childhood vaccines have been tested for years before getting to the entire population, so there is minimal danger getting something serious, on the other had covid vaccines are conditional and are tested right now on you(plural), so there is no comparison.
Also you might want to take a look at the previous youtube video about drugs.

Yeah, I had never even heard of VAERS until recently. No one I know was aware of it. If it was just the FDA or CDC that was entering data into VAERS then I would give it some merit, but now that the site has become so well known and is open to anyone, the data needs to be validated before it has any meaning. That hasn't been done.

Agreed it would also be needed to validate cases of intentional data entry on old vaccines in order to "balance" the scale.

1200 cases of heart problems MR.nay vaccines
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...t-inflammation

Invertor of Mr.nay against it. "These are experemental vaccines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdR0EHTX_5w

I was unmelting at the sea and I just thought to show why we just can't stay indoors like other countries.

https://ibb.co/ydkhSTT
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https://ibb.co/PGCGJx8
https://ibb.co/2SbYq5T
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Well I did what I could with 40 degrees but I was keep on melting again and again :D

Be on alert, something big is supposed to be coming on covid cases at 28 June. I won't say more as I'm not certain at this point.

We've been warned about record setting heat for the last week. It begins tomorrow, and the forecast isn't getting any better. To be clear, the records would be for this early in the year. We're only going to see between 105 and 110, which I don't think is our all time high, just a high for June. Even Seattle is supposed to top 100, which is kind of funny. After all, they can't just go jump in the ocean...or at least not for long. The north Pacific NEVER gets warm. Their glacial-fed rivers tend to be kind of opaque, too.

Well we've been getting a lot of rain and right now we're under a tornado watch through late tonight. Places have received 3, 4, even 5 inches of rain so we have flood watches too.

Those flooding conditions are more "water over roads in low spots" along with ponding in yards that might lead to water in basements. We rarely get "real" flooding though it has happened in my lifetime. I remember one instance where my house was surrounded by water and I was dealing with several inches of water in the basement.

Temps run around 75F with humidity at 85 to 95% right now. Not hot, but not that comfortable.


It sounds like time might be up for Australia. Fairly low vaccination rates so far, sneering at masking abounds, and Delta outbreaks are now leading to lockdowns. They and NZ are like dry brush just awaiting a spark. Sad, because they had taken steps to limit travel early which had kept them safe and that gave them plenty of time to get vaccinated.

Supply was probably a factor. They started brewing some Oxford-AZN vaccine but now they only give it to those over 60 because of the blood clot issue. Between its side effects and relative ineffectiveness... the Brits have a lot of egg on their faces.

The Delta Crud is nasty. So highly transmissible that it can readily spread outdoors.

Delta might be more transmissible as they say but it's less dangerous and most of the populated planet is on summer so for now they cannot start terror spread.
I believe by "outdoors" you mean on close people encounters. Flu viruses cannot "fly" :)

P.S. it will go to 41 tomorrow. Melting time!

Most of the populated planet, sure, but...those antipodean folks are heading into winter.

We won't hit 41 until mid-week from the sound of it. Humidity will probably be down around 15%, though. The electric company is suggesting people go out and have a BBQ...while turning off their TVs, computers, A/C, and oddly enough, their irrigation. I can't figure out that last one. I have one friend who uses a pump from a local canal-like thing for irrigation, so he directly uses electricity, but lots of people out here still have flood irrigation (totally gravity driven), pressurized irrigation (including me), or municipal water. For either of the latter two, there is electricity involved, but only at the municipal level to keep the water pressure up. If everybody stopped irrigating, would it really save all that much? I wouldn't think so, and it will save even less if compliance is only voluntary (and people are as baffled by that request as I am).

Just went through some intense rain, and tornado warnings. Quite a string of rotation cells and a few funnels caught on camera but relatively low damage, mainly trees and power lines from wind plus some roads closed due to flooding. Whipped through fast so I've already come up from the basement and unpacked my bug-out bag. More rain coming later, and we'll see about severe weather.

Perhaps you've watched this already:

https://youtu.be/osalpiUg6Eo

She mentions cases where the fungalitis was spread outdoors just by walking past other people.

Yeah last week we were suppose to be 109 - 110 but we got to maybe 106. Starting to think the weather forecasters are starting to be just like all other reporters and purposefully over hype the situation. Doesn't matter to me if it gets 110. meh lol My house will be between 75 to 76, 24/7, from now till October. If my AC breaks my attitude would change quickly. Fill sorry for places like San Francisco or Seattle when they have a heat wave, lots of their houses don't have AC. They really suffer.

I can't keep with with West Coast seasons and the calendar.

It is earthquake season, mudslide season, or wildfire season right now?

Hammered by infectious new Delta variant, Russia is now finding it has to get deadly serious about Covid-19 vaccine reluctance

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Vaccine hesitancy has long been the Achilles’ heel of the country’s pandemic response. While many of its measures appeared to have contained the spread of the virus, Russia has some of the highest levels of skepticism about jabs of anywhere in the world. Data from research firm Morning Consult, based on 75,000 weekly interviews with people across the globe, found Russians were more cautious about vaccines than anywhere else surveyed, with more than half of respondents unwilling or uncertain about getting the jab.

Whether the tough new measures will work and whether they can be enforced in the long-term remains to be seen. However, things could once again be taking a turn for the worse before many of the rules even come into force. On Friday, Ministry of Health official Daria Danilenko confirmed that the country’s first case of the newly-evolved ‘Delta Plus’ variant had been detected.

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I don't live on the coast. No earthquake problems here. But it is fire season. Plus throw in a drought.

It's understandable that people don't trust their governments but sadly these are going to be the same people that pay the highest price.

I've only been to California, mmm, 5 times. Mostly LA/OC, San Diego, and San Jose on business but I did take one pleasure trip coming in at Needles and then through the southern interior and down into Tijuana. So there's a vast portion I've never experienced in person. Saw my first cougar driving up Mt. Palomar to the observatory once.

It's a big country though and hard to get the chance to see even a large fraction unless you travel for a living. Throw in Canada and Mexico and there is so much you can just drive to. I don't think I've been aboard a plane in forever, maybe 2008?

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Of course the weather is dry so we don't fell that muddy slug in our body but is still hot.
Greece has both earthquakes and fires every year but we are used to it.
Most of the fires last couple of years started from Government paid ruffians so they can next de-characterize the forest zone and install wind generators made in Germany.

We have fires, and normally no earthquakes...though there was a 6.5 last year, which was the first one I have ever felt.

We had one fire started the classic way: A teenage fire fighter who wanted to spend more time with his fire fighter father. Seriously. Hollywood should make a movie out of it. Other than that, the local fires tend to be started by the most common cause: Stupidity. One guy decided that it was a good idea to set off fireworks, another decided to burn his toilet paper while on a bike ride. Considering the hills around here are now so brown they are like giant signs saying, "light me", anybody doing anything with fire isn't thinking. Another common source is people who get a flat on their trailers and don't notice until the rim is dragging on the pavement, at which point they can light numerous fires along the road, depending on how far they drive before they notice the problem.

And then there's dry lightning, but we haven't had any storms in a while.

On the other hand, we're overdue for a volcano, which would REALLY make the news, if it happened. Craters of the Moon is a rift that opens up and spews lava roughly every 10,000 years. It's overdue. Since it's a very gentle kind of volcano, it would be a serious tourist attraction. Much like Hawaiian volcanoes, if that started up, you'd be able to watch it from a reasonable distance.

No sign of it waking up, though.

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I've only been to California, mmm, 5 times. Mostly LA/OC, San Diego, and San Jose on business but I did take one pleasure trip coming in at Needles and then through the southern interior and down into Tijuana. So there's a vast portion I've never experienced in person. Saw my first cougar driving up Mt. Palomar to the observatory once.

It's a big country though and hard to get the chance to see even a large fraction unless you travel for a living. Throw in Canada and Mexico and there is so much you can just drive to. I don't think I've been aboard a plane in forever, maybe 2008?

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Yeah California is a big state, very long. Sounds like you've mainly experienced the southern part. Central Ca is agriculture (lots and lots), though with a 10yr drought I worry about that. Plus CA is just a little behind Wisconsin in cheese production. Lots of mountains ranges in the east and north. From where I live it's an easy 2hr drive to the ocean or mountain camping or skiing. You'd think with 40m people the state would be packed like sardines but there is plenty of country/mountain/small town life available. Problem is most of the job market is in the crowded cities.

We have our share of people started fires but the major problem is lightening. And when lightening starts a fire in a remote area with no accessible road it's a nightmare. Last years the fires were so bad that the Ca central valley, was in a smoke fog. I'd never seen that before.

I'd worry about the long term sustainability of much of that ag, but perhaps we get a distorted view dating back to even films like Chinatown and disasters like The Salton Sea. Water is a big issue and after anti-globalism comes keeping State resources home.

We've had the "Flint water" issue created and largely sustained by two Governors now, while not far away corporate bottling and shipment of ground water takes place at incredible volumes. Resentment is building, and fresh water is a plentiful resource here. Flint's issue has more to do with corporate incompetence and improper water supply additives than the pipes, which have been there a very long time.

Reading these I really get furious at our previous and current governments.
We have huge water supplies and few of the best mineral water and not only 1or 2 brands but 10 - 20 , not that we need it as the water is perfectly drinkable, we have perfect food, the best olive oil in the world perfect environment, perfect whether, sea, mountain, volcanos (yep we got 2 big ones) and we also have those idiots. Selling everything cheap abroad (railroads,electricity,oil,water,airports), while we have one of the biggest supply of lignite in Europe we are selling it to the Germany and we go "Green" , we have trillions of oil and natural gas underwater but we don't extract it and act like it's not there, we have a huge unnecessary public domain where all the government party dogs are recruited and while we staid home due to covid and received bread crumbs they got their full salary.
I can go on but I shouldn't because if I do continue I would say that we (I didn't personally but...) voted for them and we are keep voting them even if we curse them afterwards. I think this is something I can't understand in Greeks. The only part are the party dogs voting, that I can understand but it's the 15-20-25% ?

Party dogs...Hmmm...



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Well, it's not like you have any good choices. As for me, I spilled something on my shift key, and now my fingers stick to it. Gotta go.

Dr Parikka virologist, microbiologist, Belgian Department of Defense.
Mr.Nay vaccination causes mutations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkGVAn53Zo

Oh,
They are giving 150 Euros for every person 18-25 that will vaccinate.
They are trying to buy them out.
They also say that this week they will expand the vaccination privileges and give benefits to owners that will implement vaccinated only restaurants, gyms, cinemas, football fields etc.

There is a problem though, these are all fall against the laws of our constitution. So how can one can characterize this government?

Fkn Nazis?

How about non vaccinated only spots?

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Mr.Nay vaccination causes mutations.

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Well, we can throw THAT view out. All the most significant mutations came from countries before vaccination had gotten going, but even putting aside how absurd that statement is, we certainly know enough about the evolutionary process to know: Reproduction causes mutations.

All that other stuff is a symptom, not a cause.