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I personally would say there is a big difference in allowing free speech (that you may consider woke) like "asylum seekers have legal rights" and "asylum seekers are filthy animals and I am happy they are dying at sea, their children would just steal our benefits and deserve to die".Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
That's because the other side of the fence aren't shouting about free speech. The other side of the fence recognise that unfettered free speech is actually highly destructive. They don't object because they don't find curtailing free speech objectionable when that speech is used to defame, spread hate and/or spread dangerous disinformation.Quote:
I have never seen the same behavior (not talking about you in particular Funky) when the ban was on the other side of the fence.
It was all good and normal then.
So I wasn't clear.
The fence was not free speeching, was just expesing certain view. As a viable example would be per Zucky , opinions against vaccine .
Free speech was not shouted it was our current example.
Yoh, in 2 post I see hate, filthy animals, dying at sea, children would just steal,destructive, dangerous disinformation
I'll more and more glad for the current turnout of events.
I think there was something seriously wrong for all these years. And on top of that you don't seem to understand it (plural) , so. Good , we are on a good road to freedom.
So are you deliberately misunderstanding my post or missing the point? I was most definitely not expressing an opinion regarding asylum seekers, however the phrasings used in my second example (and in fact considerably worse) are most definitely the kind of thing I have seen on Twitter. "Free speech" that spreads hatred, disinformation, and stirs up violence probably does deserve to be censored.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
I deliberately nothing.
You keep bumping to every Woke thing to justify your posts.
There is no Twitter only Zool...Err sorry, I meant apparently you see what you want to see. I'll admit I haven't been on social but on fakevid - lock your daughters era there was more than disinformation that was getting down. You choose not to see that , that is your problem and it's fine just don't try to convince us on Woke agendas because they are over. Keep screaming on the keyboard waving you hands up and down and jumping (I'll admit that was inspired by your avatar, seemed as a funny scene, hopefully I won't be marked as a racist for cruelty to animals but from what we've been going on here, I don't doubt it). It's over. Actually it's not over it's just starting so again and again and again, keep em cumming they bounce like a rubber ball on the moon.
P.S. I'm not trying to insult you, I think you and some others are "trapped" to this but it also seems impossible to "wake you up", or , you know, maybe we are wrong but it's patriots turn so as per leftish era, wrong is right, now? Non?
Quote me where I said this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
I'm saying you give Musk a by on his hypocrisy around Free Speech Abolitionism. In other words, you haven't condemned his hypocrisy on free speech. I'm a talented guy (handsome too) but even I will struggle to quote the condemnation you haven't made.
I went further to point out that his declared absolutionist position (and your own if I remember the Musk Buys Twitter thread right - can't be bothered to go back and check right now) does not leave room for mealy mouthed language like "sometimes I disagree with him".
Given his shadow banning of people who disagreed with him over H1B visas, or more recently his removal of check marks for people who criticised him for faking his Diablo prowess, are you ready to condemn him as a lying, hypocritic cry baby yet? Or are you going to give his hypocrisy on free speech absolutionism a by?
Thus spake every cult member who ever spake.Quote:
I think you and some others are "trapped" to this but it also seems impossible to "wake you up"
Could you restate that? I've read it several times and can't figure out what you are talking about. Were you on a phone?Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
Your avatar clearly verifies that.Quote:
I'm a talented guy (handsome too)
Well spake, your Lordship. lolQuote:
Thus spake every cult member who ever spake.
He faked Diablo prowess????
That's low!
You lost me. My guess is that's a reference to the Diablo video game, which I know nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
It's video game stuff, yes. He was recently exposed as a probable fraud in a different video game (Path of Exile, short form PoE), but since then there's been a microscope on his other video game "achievements", including Diablo.Quote:
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Another four years of Trump fleecing America.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vmym2jvy9o
It's all about the furry face, baby.Quote:
Your avatar clearly verifies that.
He paid to have other people play the game to get characters to advanced levels and have all the best gear. Then he streamed himself playing and passed those characters off as his own. It was pretty obvious what he was doing because he didn't know how to do some of the most basic things in the game, indicating he'd barely actually played it.Quote:
You lost me.
Honestly, it's a pretty silly and trivial thing to have a scandal about and I honestly couldn't care if he pays someone to boost a game for him - he's got the money and if he wants to play an advanced character, why the hell not? It's a pretty big deal in the gaming community but, personally... meh. But the fact that he'd previously boasted about how "leet" a player he was and he was streaming explicitly to demo his skills just showed him as dishonest and more than a little hubristic to think it wouldn't be obvious. Then when gamers took to Twitter to call him out their account started getting banned on unspecified T And C violations and they started getting their check marks removed - that's where the hypocrisy about free speech absolutism comes in.
I think the rows around his support of H1B visas is far more important as it actually deals with politics and the economic future of the USA. I agree with him 100% on the visas - they will be good for America and good for the people who avail themselves of them. I suspect his motivations, as a potential employer of those individuals, are somewhat more self centred but I'll still call it a good thing if the outcome is positive.
Of course, I also believe that the USA will (and already does) benefit massively from low skilled immigration too and, if Trump does follow through on his rhetoric to deport them all, the impact on the US economy is going to be disastrous. There is a world wide demographic decline going on at the moment and the Nations that will have healthy economies in 20 years time will be the ones that succeed in attracting migrants today. Nativism will simply accelerate the collapse.
But whether I agree with him or not, the fact that he started banning and removing check marks from MAGA influencers who objected to his position speaks volumes about his lack of integrity.
I was trying desperately to remember the name of that but, not having played it, I was drawing a complete blank. Good call.Quote:
Path of Exile
Trump inauguration.
So no more guessing, let's see the actions.
I've never understood why people spend their time on social media getting involve in things like this. There seem to be a lot of time spent hunting for things to be outraged about. There are plenty of significant things to be upset about but Musk's gaming ability or who Taylor Swift is dating isn't important.Quote:
Honestly, it's a pretty silly and trivial thing to have a scandal about and I honestly couldn't care if he pays someone to boost a game for him - he's got the money and if he wants to play an advanced character, why the hell not? It's a pretty big deal in the gaming community but, personally... meh.
Though if these things are their major problems in life, I envy them. lol
Immigrants have played a major role in the CA workforce for as long as I can remember. If Trump deportation are as massive as he promised, who will be doing these jobs?Quote:
Of course, I also believe that the USA will (and already does) benefit massively from low skilled immigration too and, if Trump does follow through on his rhetoric to deport them all, the impact on the US economy is going to be disastrous. There is a world wide demographic decline going on at the moment and the Nations that will have healthy economies in 20 years time will be the ones that succeed in attracting migrants today. Nativism will simply accelerate the collapse.
I do think there is an immigration problem due to the major problems in Central America but a blanket deportation isn't the solution. It will cause bigger problems than it is suppose to solve.
The Executive was illegally run by a Politburo for the past 4 years:
https://youtu.be/5Z0qHw_aUsU?si=ZJVFg392LF49So3x
Yet here you are posting :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Part of it is like driving with the radio on, just background music. Life is pretty complicated...spending some mindless time on the "latest" as a diversion is "therapeutic".
You missed my point. My point was the importance that is placed on things like Musk's gaming skills, being outrage over such things. They should leave yelling at people to get off my lawn to us old retired geezers with nothing better to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by TysonLPrice
I'm all for diversions. :p
I'm opposed to diversions...unless they are screened. Unscreened diversions kill a whole lot of fish when they are migrating.
Screen your diversions, folks.
So from what I'm getting. Some legislations are.
1)Drill for oil in Antarctica by removing Bidens legislation that prevented it.
2)Illegal migration
3)No money to the outside world for 90 days
4)Freedom of speech to social with the government to investigate previous behaviors
5) Tik tok must find a buyer in US withing 75 days or close
6)No remote work
7)No 3rd sex
8)Drug cartels are noted as terrorist organizations
Non checked.
9)Rename the gulf of Mexico to gulf of America
10)Take back Panama tolls
11)Pardoning Neo Nazi Insurrectionists
12)Roman Salutes at the Inauguration
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Ye those too.
I hope he does not pardon his entire family and Fauci tho.
13)Foreign Oligarchs seated with higher priority than elected representatives
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It was a cold day in Washington...
"The federal government will not recognize automatic birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens born in the United States. We are also going to enhance vetting and screening of illegal aliens," said a Trump official in a briefing on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
President Trump is making good on his pre-election pledge to withdraw from the World Health Organization. In one of many orders issued after his inauguration, he announced the start of the process for terminating U.S. membership in the U.N. agency that oversees global health issues.
So far so good.
I'm mean he is doing what he said he would do for now.
Not surprised at the pardons, but I would never have guessed at "Roman Salutes" - certainly making their attitudes clear there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyDexter
Funny when someone shows another the sky and is looking at the finger pointing.
But...You'll get over it (plural), pat pat (pat in the back).
It's also funny how you were so outraged about the Neo Nazi in Ukraine but haven't complained about Trump releasing Neo Nazi's from prison. A lot of funny things going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
Curious why your patting yourself on the back. What did you do??
I'd say the happiest people about Trump being president are the media and the lawyers. There will be shortage of news and outrage with Trump as president. The lawsuits over the things he does have already begun and I'm fairly sure he will keep the lawyers and courts very busy.
If it's like last time he was president, it'll be another four years of chaos which is good news for the media.
I haven't paid attention about the Neo Nazi's .
Are we talking about this?
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-j...af85ac7b969606
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ws-2025-01-20/
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/20/g-s1-...january-6-riot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...-6-defendants/
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/21/p...y-6/index.html
Where does it say that they are neo NAzi's? There is nothing mentioned.
Or people rushing forward to condemn Musk as Nazi although the Anti Defamation League state it was not (irrelevant to the forum posts).
Also I've seen the gesture. The poor guy is giving his hurt out but the Wokers rushed to Nazify him.
Yep, all is Nazi's they rule US now...
So as a the calm your next door Democrat program states, I'm start to giving pats so hopefully you get over that a patriotic government won. Here wes, pat pat, be strong and have patience , it will be over in 4 years.
Isn't that convenient, all of a should it's not something you pay attention to. Wonder why????Quote:
I haven't paid attention about the Neo Nazi's .
If your interest reappears just Google "Are Proud Boys consider neo-Nazi".
Don't know anything about that. I don't ever watch inaugurations.Quote:
Or people rushing forward to condemn Musk as Nazi although the Anti Defamation League state it was not (irrelevant to the forum posts).
Amazing, you go from this,Quote:
Also I've seen the gesture. The poor guy is giving his hurt out but the Wokers rushed to Nazify him.
Yep, all is Nazi's they rule US now...
To that statement.Quote:
It's also funny how you were so outraged about the Neo Nazi in Ukraine but haven't complained about Trump releasing Neo Nazi's from prison
That certainly didn't answer why your patting yourself on the back. I appreciate the offer to pat me on the back but that wouldn't be right. I didn't do anything to deserve it. All I did was vote.Quote:
So as a the calm your next door Democrat program states, I'm start to giving pats so hopefully you get over that a patriotic government won. Here wes, pat pat, be strong and have patience , it will be over in 4 years.
Convenient or not , I haven't seen that. All I remember was people storming the capitol.
I'm not interested to scoop because you say so, I have posted all the latest articles on most of the media you follow and nothing is mentioned about Nazi's.
If neo nazi's are released I condemn it but again I haven't seen anything in your media.Or it's a squeezed article somewhere?
I'm beginning to think that you see Nazi's everywhere and not just you. It's the woke effect, everything we don't like we baptize it fascist and NAzi's and racist.
Well, guess what my friend, it's over.
But that is it. You voted wrong and you lost and you are starting (along with others) to outrage at everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by wes4dbt
Trust me it will work. Give 2 pats in the back, that's from me (it's a known conversation close to the playboy picture but I'm lazy to find it, if you read it you would know what I mean)
More pats tomorrow I have to sleep ( not pats at work only loons running around restarting the servers at 3 in the night. And yes that did happen on Saturday. Pat? )
P.S. Question. Is Trump a fascist and a Nazi?
Might be referring to this guy who apparently got a pardon:Quote:
Originally Posted by sapator
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Oh no, you found out our secret. We think everyone that disagrees with us is a Nazi. lolQuote:
I'm beginning to think that you see Nazi's everywhere and not just you. It's the woke effect, everything we don't like we baptize it fascist and NAzi's and racist.
I've asked you this before and never got an answer. What is over???Quote:
Well, guess what my friend, it's over.
If you think there has been some big cultural shift. Your wrong. If you think Trump being elected was driven by cultural views. Your wrong. It was mainly economic, with immigration being the cherry on top. Do you think @ 1.5% more of the voters voting for Trump instead of Harris signals something is OVER, as you keep saying again and again. What is over?
You think I'm outraged? Why??? What in my posts sound like I'm outraged?Quote:
But that is it. You voted wrong and you lost and you are starting (along with others) to outrage at everything.
You seem to think I'm pushing back against your posts means I'm outraged over the election results. All it means is I think your posts are wrong. I've been consistently doing this for many years before the election. So it has nothing to do with the election besides I don't have the energy to have been outraged that long. ;)
Oh no, you pretend that you don't get what is happening for 4 years. Or you really don't so my apologies, stay at the nirvana.
I won't tell you what is over I would like to boil slowly my "opponents" :bigyello:
Outraged in the general meaning, I don't think you are actually outraged, more like mothed from the result.
I think a good ol' pat is in order to lift your spirit. Pat, pat.
So, is Trump a fascist and a Nazi?
Neither.Quote:
So, is Trump a fascist and a Nazi?
He is a morally bankrupt narcissistic con man. As well as convicted of sexual abuse and a convicted felon.
But, you admire him so he has that going for him.
Translation: I don't know.Quote:
I won't tell you what is over I would like to boil slowly my "opponents"