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WalMart4Life
Feb 25th, 2004, 06:01 PM
is it illegal to make adware? and is it illegal to make any program you want to like worms and virus and NO im not making a virus or worm. I am making adware for home use and just to learn from.
crptcblade
Feb 25th, 2004, 06:10 PM
*note to self* - never download anything from WalMart4Life
Its illegal to distribute worms and viruses, but you can write whatever you want.
As for spyware, don't know about illegal, but I wouldn't use things that have spyware in them.
WalMart4Life
Feb 25th, 2004, 06:20 PM
*note to self* - never download anything from WalMart4Life ahah thats funny
Spajeoly
Feb 25th, 2004, 11:48 PM
You and others like you who make adware & spyware are right up there with moldy bread on the popularity scale, prepare to lose all your friends.
Pc_Madness
Feb 26th, 2004, 02:06 AM
Its really not to good to be talking about this and then be asking questions like,
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1626655#post1626655
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=276209
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1626654#post1626654
:p
hellswraith
Feb 26th, 2004, 10:25 AM
I know, the mods better watch this young one.
I don't care how much you sit there and say you are not making a worm or virus, it looks suspect in my book.
HardCode
Feb 26th, 2004, 12:02 PM
He'll get no help from me. He's trying to write a virus that buries itself in the registry, copies itself all over the victim's machine, and doesn't show up in the task manager. Next, he'll ask how to shell out "format c: /u" from VB.
WalMart4Life
Feb 26th, 2004, 06:16 PM
for the last time i dont make virus, worms, or backdoors. i just made some adware for home use i really dont care what you say im just telling the truth.
Pc_Madness
Feb 27th, 2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by WalMart4Life
for the last time i dont make virus, worms, or backdoors. i just made some adware for home use i really dont care what you say im just telling the truth.
You made some adware for home use..... right...
Pc_Madness
Feb 27th, 2004, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by WalMart4Life
for the last time i dont make virus, worms, or backdoors. i just made some adware for home use i really dont care what you say im just telling the truth.
http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=269966
Thats what will end up happening to you. ;)
HardCode
Feb 27th, 2004, 09:29 AM
Adware for home use? Are you going to try to sell something to yourself? Get lost.
LabtroRob
Mar 1st, 2004, 10:53 AM
Interesting.
The guy who got banned in Dec 2003 for hiding the app in his program said he'd be back w/ a different name.
Walmart4Life registered in Jan 2004.
Pc_Madness
Mar 1st, 2004, 05:46 PM
No-one would be that stupid. I'm sure Joe can check the IP's for us to confirm this. :yes:
Danial
Mar 6th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by HardCode
Adware for home use? Are you going to try to sell something to yourself? Get lost.
Lol, i like that, how about a virus/worm for home use !
As for AdWare i think it depends on country, one could sue you using Privacy Law if you installed Adware without their knowledge and sent personal information. It could also be catagorised as stealing information depending on what your adware is doing, its a grey area.........
WalMart4Life
Mar 6th, 2004, 07:46 PM
all my adware does is click a link ever 5 mins withone the users knowing it is running you cant see it on the apps list or visualy see it
Danial
Mar 6th, 2004, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by WalMart4Life
all my adware does is click a link ever 5 mins withone the users knowing it is running you cant see it on the apps list or visualy see it
Sorry dont mean to be rude, but it sounds like damn annoying! What are you doing? Is it one of those Click X time and earn few pence? Come on do you think its worth it?
As a software developer we should have some ethics. I dispise adware and junk email.
Like someone mentioned the SnakeMaker guy got banned for doing something similar, after that no body trusts any one in this forum. Its a shame that only few can tarnish the good faith we had on every one.
Hope you forget about your adware campaign ;)
WalMart4Life
Mar 6th, 2004, 07:56 PM
as i have said befor its only to learn from im not using it or anything like that
Pc_Madness
Mar 6th, 2004, 08:11 PM
To learn what? How to make viruses and spyware? :rolleyes:
Nothing can be learnt from developing software like that, as if you try to use any of those kind of things in real software you'll get fired and I'm sure its possible for someone to take legal action against you for breach of privacy. ;)
WalMart4Life
Mar 6th, 2004, 10:24 PM
my ass i have learned how to use inet winsock and web browser just from this program and you are saying this is not usefull?
Pc_Madness
Mar 6th, 2004, 11:02 PM
No-one ever uses the Inet control or the WebBrowser control, as both are incrediably unreliable. ;) Winsock should be used and you shouldn't even need a webbrowser with that method. ;)
And there are slightly more useful programs that can be made with those two controls in either case.
WalMart4Life
Mar 9th, 2004, 09:42 PM
OMFG stop saying a make virus and this is my 1st account on vbforums check the ips and see so stop making **** up
nkad
Mar 24th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Yes, it is very illegal.
EJ12N
Mar 24th, 2004, 12:43 AM
What he doing is an outwar.com method to get more clicks and yes is adaware and yes don't DO iT!!!!
tha program goes to registry so it saves itself there then it start clicking their outwar link so they get a hit.... due to the program saved on registry everytime u turn on your computer tha program will launch stealth mode tho because is visible = false and is hidden from task manager.... that's all he is doing
walmart don't do that is not worth it try other ways to get your hits :p
so yes i agree is illegal because you saving and running the program automatically wihtout the user permission:rolleyes:
Pc_Madness
Mar 24th, 2004, 01:12 AM
What is this OutWar crap? :confused:
Wokawidget
Mar 25th, 2004, 08:59 AM
You keep saying that you are not writing any dodgy code, fair enough, but you must understand that when you combine most of your posts you will have the solution to create an application that would be considered dodgy by 99.9% of computer users.
I hate spam, viruses, trojans and unwanted scripts running on my PC, as do most people here. If we suspect that someone, in this case YOU, is trying to write code that is considered dodgy then you will get a very negative response.
It doesn't help that you are a new user either. Users of VBF are very careful on what code to hand out when they suspect it might be used wrongly.
The SnakeMaker thread is a classic example, cheers PC_madness for the link.
Ad-ware is not illegal in itself, but the user MUST be notified that it will be installed. If it's installed without the users knowledge then it's considered a trojan, and this is illegal.
You do realise that if you do create something dodgy, not saying you will, but if you do, then all these posts will be used as evidence in a court of law? You may laugh and take the piss, but this is serious...your ISP will have you. Be careful, u'll be suprised at the data trail footprint you have already left on the internet ;)
Plus, most people have Firewalls these days, so if I came across something like your code then I would block it.
What is it EXACTLY you are trying to do?
And don't say creating ad-ware for your home PC use...no-one buys it, sorry. That's what makes people think twice about giving you code...
So far from your posts I think you want an app that copies itself, runs in the background while not showing in task manager, and loads it'sself when the PC is booted up. Oh and not forgetting the web posts about running scripts, which I would assume could eb used to copy the exe onto a PC....in all it deffinately smells fishy.
You are trending on a thin line, just watch yourself as people will see your posst and not even read them if they think u will write a dodgy app...that's just the way it is I am afraid.
Hope that helps.
Woka
abcdefg
Mar 26th, 2004, 02:07 PM
Look any dumbass beginning programmer can make a virus in windows its easy. If programmers wanted too write a virus or worm and wanted to waste their time its would be easy. **** i could if i felt like wasting enough time. Windows has about 1000 holes in it that could be exploited. Windows is a very unsecure OS. Try hacking unix that would be a bigger accomplishment.
Wokawidget
Mar 26th, 2004, 04:33 PM
Writting a silly virus IS easy...but writing one that hides itself and so on isn't...u would have to search for the code first :)
Linux, linux...it's all about linux isn't it ?!
Woof
Madboy
Mar 27th, 2004, 12:50 PM
Adware also slows comp down, which makes people angry.
Plus, the user doesnt know what information it is sending to there servers - we know you are watching us:eek:
Danial
Mar 28th, 2004, 09:40 AM
Please Let this thread Rest in Peace :)
Pc_Madness
Mar 28th, 2004, 08:53 PM
No way, this is another example of how we will bore you to death if you even consider making illegal software. :mad:
Danial
Mar 28th, 2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Pc_Madness
No way, this is another example of how we will bore you to death if you even consider making illegal software. :mad:
How about we spam WalMart4Life instead :D :eek:
Did say spam, i meant emails requesting not to write illegal software. How about writing a software to do that, would that be illegal ;).
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