AMD vs. intel (POLL)

**IntelSucks** · Dec 21st, 2003, 01:54 PM

Amd
Intel

**IntelSucks** · Dec 21st, 2003, 04:39 PM

come on you guys...vote

**Danial** · Dec 21st, 2003, 06:36 PM

Does it really matters, which one wins!! Its only matter of opinion.

I have always used Intel but have started using AMD because of the value for money.

Well i can see a big debate coming up. So I declare the debate as open.....

**IntelSucks** · Dec 21st, 2003, 07:12 PM

I dont want your life story. I just wanted to start a poll...if you don't think that there is a point to the poll then don't vote or state your opinion.

**Danial** · Dec 21st, 2003, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
I dont want your life story. I just wanted to start a poll...if you don't think that there is a point to the poll then don't vote or state your opinion.

No need to get so touchy !

**plenderj** · Dec 21st, 2003, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
I dont want your life story. I just wanted to start a poll...if you don't think that there is a point to the poll then don't vote or state your opinion.

As you are apparantly unaware, creating a poll on a topic will always generate discussion on that topic itself.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 21st, 2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by plenderj
As you are apparantly unaware, creating a poll on a topic will always generate discussion on that topic itself.

No, I am aware. He is telling me that it doesnt matter who wins, and there is no reason to tell me that because it isnt going to make me stop the poll. If he was going to say something about the processors or which one that he likes/dislikes then I wouldnt have taken it wrong.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 21st, 2003, 09:10 PM

Come on guys AMD is only up by 2.

**Kasracer** · Dec 21st, 2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Danial
Does it really matters, which one wins!! Its only matter of opinion.

I have always used Intel but have started using AMD because of the value for money.

It isn't a matter of opinion. Look at the benchmarks and technical documents on the processors.

**Danial** · Dec 21st, 2003, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by kasracer
It isn't a matter of opinion. Look at the benchmarks and technical documents on the processors.

I meant the result of the poll NOT the fact which is a better processor AMD or Intel.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 21st, 2003, 10:50 PM

I started the poll out of my interest

**Danial** · Dec 21st, 2003, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
No, I am aware. He is telling me that it doesnt matter who wins, and there is no reason to tell me that because it isnt going to make me stop the poll. If he was going to say something about the processors or which one that he likes/dislikes then I wouldnt have taken it wrong.

Jesus christ just learn to relax. The "!" marks indicated that it was not a serious comment. I was just trying to say that the result of the poll wouldnt really determine anything. Wouldnt really prove Intel is better then AMD or vice versa. Just prove that one is more popular then other. Ovbiously it might mean something to you.

Anyway forget about it. I will try to avoid making any more comment on this thread.

**cid** · Dec 21st, 2003, 10:53 PM

AMD is better!

intelsucks!

**Kasracer** · Dec 21st, 2003, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Danial
The "!" marks indicated that it was not a serious comment.

Douche!

Fart Licker!

GET OVER HERE BEFORE CHARLEY GETS YOU!

!

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 12:09 AM

dont say "Jesus Christ" it offends me.

I am being serious.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 12:09 AM

! = serious

**Dreamlax** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 12:27 AM

You know, perhaps we should start a debate on whether the exclamation point indicates sarcasm or not. I've always used it in the serious manner.

Voted AMD, because I use one, and because I've had no problems with it.

**Ideas Man** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 12:41 AM

I tell ya IntelSucks, them AMD processors really blow your skit up, you are always pissed off, maybe it's because they suck.

**Kasracer** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Dreamlax
You know, perhaps we should start a debate on whether the exclamation point indicates sarcasm or not.

There is no debate, exclamation points always depict seriousness or shouting. Definatly not sarcasm

**wossname** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:34 AM

Yet again another thread descends into fatuous bickering.

**cid** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:12 PM

Ok guys Ill lay down the facts:

Gigahertz Intel
Price AMD
Quality AMD
Pipelines AMD
FSB Intel
Multitasking AMD
64 Bit Compatability AMD
Heat Factor Intel
Ability to overclock: AMD
Gaming AMD
Programming AMD
Compiling AMD
Music Editing AMD
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Reasoning: Ok as we all know INTEl does have more "power" aka gigahertz. But as far as price goes AMD knocks intel out of the park. Now lets address the pipelines issue. Intel proccessors are crammed with pipelines thus making them slower at multitasking where as in AMD the pipelines are spread making multitasking and easy task for the AMD. Front Side Bus- we already established intels power factor(moving on). 64 Bit Proccessing The new AMD 64 bit proccessor running at about 2.8 gigahertz will domolish an 3.5 gigahertz intel cpu. So with the new windows 64 bit edition. Not to mention that most unix based OS's run at 64bits instead of 32. So as far as general use AMD is alot more compatible and a better proccessor and also running about 150$ less than the leading intel. Intel cpu's keep cooler but only because they dont work as hard as AMD's. And as far as the other items go since AMD multitasks a lot better than Intel AMD clears the screen on all the other test. Oh and by the way look at some benchmarks at toms hardware guide and youll see the Amd 64 bit come out on top.
And as for me I will always be a AMD user for life.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:35 PM

I hope you feel stupid Ideas man

**cid** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 02:49 PM

Any of you guys want to dispute facts?

**Cander** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:01 PM

intel is better for graphical applications. Mainly because AMD mother boards have some AGP issues.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:07 PM

Yeah like what? Non-onboard video?

**cid** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:07 PM

Like what? How about you support your claim. That would be equivalent to me saying Intel has some motherboard incompatibility issues. How about you explain. Like with what boards and what are the issues and if you dont have an answer than just say you dont know what your talking about and you just wanted to sound cool.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:09 PM

cid, dont make him cry...

**Memnoch1207** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:20 PM

Okay, here is my .02....

AMD SUCKS

**Cander** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
cid, dont make him cry...

Hmm.. Uh huh.

How about this. Buy a Quadro XGL. Use a 3D design application. Then read the manual as to why it runs kind of sluggish.

And drop the shill attitude.

**Memnoch1207** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:39 PM

AMD issues with AGP

a recent "errata" of the Athlon includes a "cache coherency" issue where the Athlon's L1 and L2 caches may not be away of memory pages modified by AGP DME operations _if_ the Athlon processor is using 4MB pages. Normally i386 compatible processors use 4KB paging, but some of the latest software enables Pentium compatible processors to use 4MB paging for a significant performance boost. When AMD designed the Athlon, it designed it to perform just as well under 4KB and 4MB paging, so it has no real performance effect. Unfortunately, it seems the 4MB paging, Pentium compatible option of the Athlon was not as well tested as the standard 4KB paging, and a cache coherency issue can result.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:41 PM

Looks like you copy, pasted that

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:42 PM

Cander, have you tested that yourself?

**Memnoch1207** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
Looks like you copy, pasted that

I did...from hardwarecentral.com
If you would like to read the whole article I will be glad to post a link to it.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:49 PM

you actually tested it? Or you read a review on it?

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:53 PM

I can show you stuff that other people have tested just as well...

**Memnoch1207** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 03:55 PM

I'm not pitching benchmarks...I am providing information about a known issue with AMD processors with regards to AGP.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:03 PM

I have never had any agp problems.

**Cander** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
Cander, have you tested that yourself?

Yes.

And BTW I use AMD primarily. Im just stating a fact about a problem AMD has with 3D applications (not games). Yes I got the latest AGP drivers which helped to some extent. But there is still viewport sluggishness problems compared to how it runs on a comaprable Intel based machine.

**IntelSucks** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:11 PM

Im not going to argue with that anymore because obviously havent had to deal with it...but thats only one thing, its not like the pentium processors are perfect.

**Cander** · Dec 22nd, 2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by IntelSucks
Im not going to argue with that anymore because obviously havent had to deal with it...but thats only one thing, its not like the pentium processors are perfect.

Fine. But just because the problems of AMD are not apparent for what you do, doesnt mean the problems dont exist.

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