Reputations

[brad jones]

You asked, we delivered. Reputations are about to be turned on. Check the above announcement for more information.

Brad!

[brad jones]

Everyone starts with 5 points of reputations automatically. See the FAQ for more information.

Brad!

[NoteMe]

Wow, finaly...thanks a lot. Hope it is not going to get missused. I love you..ehhh..not in that way. But still. Thanks a bunch.


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[NoteMe]

I can see that it is turned off in the ChitChat section. Maybe it is an idea to do that with the test section too?


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[RobDog888]

Yes, it is turned off in the Chit Chat forum and I think it is suppossed to
be off in a few other forums as well. I will check.

[brad jones]

Would there really be a post in the Testing forum worth rating? Hmmm....
Regardless, it is a good suggestion and will be turned off there too.

The idea is to recognize those that help others. Hopefully postitive rating points will be given to those that provide technical help (the focus of this forum) and so that the super helpers will float to the top.

Brad!

[NoteMe]

Would there really be a post in the Testing forum worth rating? Hmmm....
Regardless, it is a good suggestion and will be turned off there too.

Brad!

[Edit] I can see you answered this in CC now... [/edit]



Well that was more or less my point. There is non there. And that is probably why it was shut off in the first place in teh ChitChat section. So it won't be missused.


Well I have one other question. Is there any possibility to actualy check the points a person has?

I can check my own points by trying to give my self points, but what about others. Is it only the green dots? I can't see anything about it in the FAQ either.


Well I can at least see that the member page has it ranked all ready. And it looks like Pirate got the first points. But I can't see his number of points:

http://vbforums.com/memberlist.php?&...ion&pp=30&ltr=


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[RobDog888]

One other thing, is there a way to view your Power level? I know we can calculate
it ourselves, but I was wondering if it would show somewhere in case you
wanted to see someone else's Power.

[RhinoBull]

I noticed that Martin has disabled "reputation" - can I do that as honestly I couldn't care less. Thanks.

[brad jones]

Only admins can disable reputation from displaying. I'd prefer everyone leave it on.

Brad!

[NoteMe]

One last one..


Is it possible to MAKE people to write a comment for posting positive or negative points. I just found it very irritating to get a negative remark when I tried to help someone. Made me realy feel that I didn't want to help him again if I am not even getting any comment on why.


[Edit] Is it possible to add to the list who gave you the vote too?

[RhinoBull]

Only admins can disable reputation from displaying. I'd prefer everyone leave it on.

Brad!

I know you would prefer it and I apologize in advance, Brad, for annoying the heck of you but I do not want this option so how would I disable it? Or is it possible that you would do that for me? What's the problem? I just don't get it? Personally, I am not (nor I ever will be) after any points race what so ever ...

[NoteMe]

The problem is if EVERYONE starts to ask him. That will be like if everyone wanted him to make a costum name with colors. He would have a full time job. So if you don't care about it. Why not just let it be there. And don't care about it. Look at Marty. Even he has it on now.


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[RhinoBull]

One last one..
Is it possible to MAKE people to write a comment for posting positive or negative points. I just found it very irritating to get a negative remark when I tried to help someone. Made me realy feel that I didn't want to help him again if I am not even getting any comment on why.

This is exactly WHY I don't need this - politics, politics, politics ... disgusting as they are ... This new "feature" will irritate people more than you think it may help ... Whoever came up with this idea didn't realize many things I'm afraid ... Sorry if this offence anybody but that's what I feel like at the moment.

My very best regards to everyone on this board and beyond.

[RhinoBull]

The problem is if EVERYONE starts to ask him. That will be like if everyone wanted him to make a costum name with colors. He would have a full time job. So if you don't care about it. Why not just let it be there. And don't care about it. Look at Marty. Even he has it on now.


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I am only speaking for myself - I do not need it and I don't really care who does. As simple as that. Period.

[McCain]

Would it be possible to make the comments field a little bit bigger?
If I want to give someone a point I usually have a reason and that reason will be more than the 10-or-so letters that fit in that tiny box

Thanks!

(A bigger box might also make ppl feel like they should really use it...)

[dglienna]

Is the RSS feed on, also? It says something to that effect in the FAQ

[RobDog888]

No, RSS feeds are not on. I believe there was a thread here in the FF Forum
a while ago on it. Not too sure if it will be turned on though.

[RobDog888]

Just noticed that a new user with 15 posts was able to submit a rep to me, although
it was zero points I think. I thought they were not able to add a rep unless
they had more then 20? Bug? Not that it really matters. Guess I'm just being
a perfectionist

[dglienna]

i think it's 20 to GET a reputation of +5

[Electroman]

Just noticed that a new user with 15 posts was able to submit a rep to me, although
it was zero points I think. I thought they were not able to add a rep unless
they had more then 20? Bug? Not that it really matters. Guess I'm just being
a perfectionist

I think it still lets you get the feedback (ie. the comment) but just you won't get the points for it.

[RobDog888]

I think it still lets you get the feedback (ie. the comment) but just
you won't get the points for it.

Yes, that is how it
worked. I just assumed that if they didnt have the 20 then it wouldnt allow
the feedback.

Just checking, thats all.

Thanks.

[RobDog888]

One other thing, is there a way to view your Power level? I know we can calculate
it ourselves, but I was wondering if it would show somewhere in case you
wanted to see someone else's Power.

????

[brad jones]

Bulleted comments -

• Anyone can rate a post. If you don't qualify (i.e. don't have enough posts), then no points will be give, but the comment will show up. This allows people to leave feedback, but with no impact on the total because they don't yet qualify
• Only admins can turn of their reputation and I've asked all admins to leave it on.
• If you don't care about reputation and post ratings, then simply ignore it. This really isn't about seeing who has the best reputation, it is about seeing who (on indivdiual average) gives good responses. A few negative ratings are likely to happen, but if you are helpful, your overall rating should be positive.
• If someone gives one of your posts a negative rating and you think it is *truly* unfair, let an admin know. Negative reputations done with no basis will be looked into if reported. People taking such actions could have their accounts suspended. In other words, we take ratings seriously.
• Rating posts/reputations is not a new concept. I've been working with it within vBulletin on CodeGuru for several months. I also worked with it for a couple of years on CodeGuru before we switched to vBulletin. We've seen and are aware of many of the issues. Give time for ratings to build up. In six months or a year, the reputation ratings will seem different because there will be a build up of ratings.
• I've gotten comments about things that don't deserve negative ratings that could get them. This forum has a lot of sarcastic posts as well as responses telling people to "get a clue". Sarcasm is often read wrong and telling someone to get a clue (whether they need to or not) is never really polite. Don't be surprised if those types of posts get rated negatively. Make sure it is clear if your posts are sarcasm, etc.
• There are a few people worried about getting negative reputations. The easy answer is to watch what you post. After all, when you post something, it never really goes away.

If I missed responding to a comment, let me know.

Brad!

[NoteMe]

One last one..


Is it possible to MAKE people write a comment for posting positive or negative points. I just found it very irritating to get a negative remark when I tried to help someone. Made me realy feel that I didn't want to help him again if I am not even getting any comment on why. Because I did help him.


[Edit] Is it possible to add to the list who gave you the vote too? Because I am not even sure if it was the thread starter that made the negative remark.

I couldn't see the answer to these two.

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[dglienna]

I think that there should be a sticky asking people to rate the threads that they read. If it is something helpful, then it should be rated as such. If someone helps solve a problem, then they should get a good comment. You don't have to mention the points, as they're secondary.
Most people will give a postive rating if asked to, but I think that it should be asked of everyone.

[Valleysboy1978]

Once everyone warms to the idea it will start to be used more. Besides, if you only give good advice, what is there to worry about?

[brad jones]

I think that there should be a sticky asking people to rate the threads that they read. If it is something helpful, then it should be rated as such.

A lot of people on other forums have added a line to their signature. Something like what I've added to mine.

[brad jones]

The two missed answers....

• Right now it is not possible (from what I've seen) to force a comment to be entered. This is something when can look into.
• Right now the setting to show who posted a post rating (reputation) is turned off. This may be turned on in the future if we find people abusing things. Admins can see who rated a post, so if you believe there is an unjust post, feel you can contact us and we can look into it. Be aware, however, that everyone is entitled to an opinion, so negative reputation points will happen. If you are helpful, however, then the few negative you might get will be overshadowed by the positive.

[NoteMe]

Thanks for the answers. Guess I will have to ask next time then when I don't understand why I got it.


Thanks
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[RhinoBull]

I think that there should be a sticky asking people to rate the threads that they read. ... but I think that it should be asked of everyone.

And why is that ? Do you care for rating ?

[NoteMe]

And why is that ? Do you care for rating ?

Is that bad?



BTW I am not sure if it gives a good indication after all. A lot of members stays for one or two questions and results in black non counting ratings...

[dglienna]

I hate to be point-chasing, but if i do ask someone, they will give a point. I guess I over-emphasize things. I was surprised that I was in the top 10, with others having over 30. I didn't change my sig to put in a request. I may just decide to do that.

[RhinoBull]

Is that bad? ...

I believe so ... it's for people that do care about politics ... it's a disease ...

[RhinoBull]

I hate to be point-chasing, ...

But you are or at least it looks that way.

[dglienna]

I meant by hustling them in my signature. I will ask for one if I think that I've helped someone, and the point will verify it.

[brad jones]

I don't believe it is bad to ask people to rate posts they find useful.

Brad!

[RhinoBull]

Well, I do and there is a reason - Only ambitious person can do that but since this is a public forum then ambitiousness isn't necessary something that needs to be shown.

[demotivater]

I'm less than amibitious, I assure you, but I think it's a decent system. It's gotten me to throw some help out where I can in the past couple of days. I'd gotten away from that recently unfortunately.

[RhinoBull]

An ordinary "Thank you" is good enough for me ...