video editing

**nabeels786** · Apr 24th, 2002, 01:13 PM

anyone know any good video editing stuff?

filburt prolly will know

i got a snappy to convert stuff on my camcorder to my comp

we have an english project to make a movie about aything, but its got to refer to stuff we've read, so yeah i wanna make it all nice and purty

thanks

**Sastraxi** · Apr 24th, 2002, 04:43 PM

If all you need is basics (ex. video compilation, scene order, audio/video overlay), VirtualDub is all you need. Otherwise, download a trial of Premiere.

**filburt1** · Apr 24th, 2002, 04:54 PM

You probably don't want to start with Premiere though. I learned Avid Cinema (crap) and iMovie (less crap but still crap) before learning Premiere. I'm going to learn Final Cut Pro 3 next.

**JungleMan** · Apr 24th, 2002, 04:59 PM

Ulead VideoStudio isn't bad.

**filburt1** · Apr 24th, 2002, 05:00 PM

Haven't tried it...is that the full-blown editing suite or the $99 tinkertoy?

**JungleMan** · Apr 24th, 2002, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by filburt1
Haven't tried it...is that the full-blown editing suite or the $99 tinkertoy?

Probably the $99 tinkertoy...

For professional video editing, there's really no way to go other than Premiere or Final Cut Pro...

Most anything is good for home use...even the Windows Movie Maker...it's like telling grandma to build a rig with a GF4 in it, it just doesn't happen...

**BigBosky** · Apr 24th, 2002, 08:55 PM

After Effects

**filburt1** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:14 PM

If you use Windows Movie Maker, you better leave VBF because nobody will ever have any respect for you EVER...that program is so worthless, it's like iMovie with 2% of the features. OMG OMG OMG IT DOES DISSOLVES! DUDE!

**sail3005** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:17 PM

what do big movie companies like dreamworks use?

**JungleMan** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by filburt1
If you use Windows Movie Maker, you better leave VBF because nobody will ever have any respect for you EVER...that program is so worthless, it's like iMovie with 2% of the features. OMG OMG OMG IT DOES DISSOLVES! DUDE!

A lot of people aren't into video editing like you are you know

**BigBosky** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:29 PM

alot of big companies use things like after effects, 3d studio max and lightwave

**filburt1** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
A lot of people aren't into video editing like you are you know

Dude either way that program sucks majorly...literally almost any other program is better than that junky one.

**JungleMan** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by filburt1

Dude either way that program sucks majorly...literally almost any other program is better than that junky one.

LOL i don't even use it

I'm just saying not everyone needs whatever fancy **** Premiere offers...Ulead seems good to me for what I've used it for, which is very little

**filburt1** · Apr 24th, 2002, 09:47 PM

I agree, Premiere is probably the worst choice you can make as a starter video editing proggie...I've heard good things about Ulead's schtuff, so IMHO that's the way to go if you're on a PC. iMovie would probably the best if you're using a Mac just because you've already got it for free and it is very easy to use.

Keep in mind that Premiere and iMovie both by default use massive files. Premere's DV streaming file format is 3.2 MB/sec, and iMovie's is around 6.4 MB/sec. You need literally at least a few GB free for each project you do. The files may be huge, but because they're completely uncompressed, rendering transitions and titles is much faster than if they were stored as, say, MPEGs.

**Emo** · Apr 24th, 2002, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by sail3005
what do big movie companies like dreamworks use?

Like BigBosky said, they use Max and Lightwave but I would say most of them use Maya... that IS the best in my opinion...

Filburt, since youre more into movie making, let me ask you something... At this website, I read that they used "Octane and Octane 2 Workstations" to make the movie Ice Age (Made with Maya) and I was wondering what are these Octane worksations

-Emo

**nabeels786** · Apr 25th, 2002, 01:50 PM

well ive got about 50gb free

all i need to do is add in scenes from some other mpegs i have, add background music, maybe likes a title screen thing, credits

nothing extreme

so what program? WMM?

oh yeah, i have to convert it back onto video tape afterwards, so what settings should i use for that? i figured ill hook a tv/vcr (i have a 2 in 1 thing) upto the tv out on my vdo card, then just play and record

**filburt1** · Apr 25th, 2002, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Emo
Filburt, since youre more into movie making, let me ask you something... At this website, I read that they used "Octane and Octane 2 Workstations" to make the movie Ice Age (Made with Maya) and I was wondering what are these Octane worksations

-Emo

IIRC they're extremely powerful machines, like Avid editing machines. Avid machines literally can cost $50,000 to $100,000 with all the hardware in them.

**nabeels786** · Apr 25th, 2002, 02:25 PM

yep they have a few of those at work

i downloaded videostudio, looks pretty good so far

heres my movie:

http://fbgforums.jniv.net/hahahahha.mpg

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