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    Unhappy help with dual nics?

    ok i have 2 10/100 nics in my computer both connected to the internet, both with there own static ip addresses. But I want them both to work at the same time. Right now only one is doing all of the work. Like if i were to go to yahoo.com I would want them both to go to yahoo.com. Any one know how to set that up? I am running windows xp pro.

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    what exactly are you trying to accomplish?

    Open Network and Dial-up Connections.
    Right-click the connection on which you want to enable the dialing of multiple devices, and then click Properties.
    On the Options tab, in Multiple devices, do one of the following:
    If you want Windows 2000 to dial only the first available device, click Dial only first available device.
    If you want Windows 2000 to use all of your devices, click Dial all devices.
    If you want Windows 2000 to dynamically dial and hang up devices as needed, click Dial devices only as needed, and then click Configure.
    In Automatic dialing, click the Activity at least percentage and Duration at least time you want to set. Another line is dialed when connection activity reaches this level for the amount of time that you specify.

    In Automatic hangup, click the Activity no more than percentage and Duration at least time you want to set. A device is hung up when connection activity decreases to this level for at least the amount of time that you specify.
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    What is the answer to this question?

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    HELLO????

    HEllo i am on DSL it does not hang up, no need to dial anything i plug the CAT 5 network cable in and wham i am on the internet. I dont use 56gay i dont dial anything i give it my ip address and plug the cable in. All I want it to do is split the connection so that both NETWORK cards connect to the website or what ever i am connection to. So that not one NETWORK card is doing all of the work.

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    I know that! But there might be a similar thing for NICs, I can't test is cos I don't have 2 NICs.
    What is the answer to this question?

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    Re: HELLO????

    Originally posted by deoblo1
    HEllo i am on DSL it does not hang up, no need to dial anything i plug the CAT 5 network cable in and wham i am on the internet. I dont use 56gay i dont dial anything i give it my ip address and plug the cable in. All I want it to do is split the connection so that both NETWORK cards connect to the website or what ever i am connection to. So that not one NETWORK card is doing all of the work.
    I'm not sure I'm understanding. Do you have 2 DSL modems? Or do you have 2 network cards hooked up to a cable/DSL router? If it's the latter, that will not improve your bandwidth at all, as the network card does not do a fraction of the work it CAN do. The bottleneck is the DSL and not the NIC.

    Let's put it this way, if you have 2 NICs hooked up to a 1 megabit modem, you're still going to get a full 1 megabit transfer on 1 NIC. and on 2 NICs you will still get 1 megabit.

    If you have 2 DSL modems, I can't help you...
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    I can't think of any feasible reason you would want to do this. The whole point of having 2 network cards is to connect them to different things. If you want more network bandwidth (God knows why), get a gigabit card and cabling.

    Even if you have 2 cable/DSL modems to connect to, I don't see a big problem with that.
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    you can only use one nic for the DSLmodem. the operating system will not let you use both nics at the sametme to the DSL.

    even if you could it will not help you get faster downloads like 2 modems will. only one can run at a time and download one at a time.

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    oh well

    well kazaa is useing both nics...and yes i know about the bottle neck, but it still laggs my system down when someone is pulling off of my ftp, so put 2 nics in there. And there is a reason for 2 nics in other systems, proxy server...

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    do you mean have one nic to 50% and the other do 50%? you can't do that
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    Re: oh well

    Originally posted by deoblo1
    well kazaa is useing both nics...and yes i know about the bottle neck, but it still laggs my system down when someone is pulling off of my ftp, so put 2 nics in there. And there is a reason for 2 nics in other systems, proxy server...
    kazaa can't use both. the operating system controls that not the program. besides it downloads from other host not you nics.

    networking you can use both nics but only download from one

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    hmm something is wrong then

    well one nic is sending 87119 and received 61272 packets and the other nic the primary one that handles most of the trafic has sent 256309 and recived 269163 packets. And the first nic did't start doing stuff till i turned on kazaa so sending 87119 packets is not suppost to happen?

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    Both of the nics are going into a hub which is then going into another hub, which then connects to my dsl routor. Or if i were to switch it they would be going into a hub, then into a switch, then a routor then a dsl routor...but oh well, it all started working after i turned on kazaa i mean it started useing the other nic and it has not turned off since, since i have not turned off kazaa

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    Why do you have two NICs anyway?

    You might as well disconnect one as far as I can see, it doesn't seem to be doing anything useful.
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    just like justin aid. if you ae runing 2 nics you aren't accomplishing anything. you will still get the same bandwidth. jsut like running 2 modems, one will work at a time and since they are nics no need to use 2 of them since they can handle the bandwidth by themselves.

    I would only use one. why confuse everything.

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    did i hear someone up there say you could use two modems?

    how does this workout? do you need to use seperate phonelines or can you get both to work on the same line?
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    your ISP has to support it and I think there is a setting in the modem properties that says something about dual modems.

    hmmm let me guess you didn't get both nics to do what you want?

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    If each NIC has a different default gateway set for TCP/IP, I supposed you could mess with the Windows routing table to try to get each card used (you'd essentially have to divide the internet in two and assign each half to each nic) - don't know what good this does you.

    I supposed if you're running server services, and you assign each NIC at least one ip address, you could configure different clients to access different IP addresses to split the load, but I don't think you want to do that.
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    well lets see I now have Verizon Dsl (500+ kb down load) and Srping Biz dsl (5 times as fast a t1 down load) so I guess now with dual nics that would help now would't it??? so now my website can run off one line, and i can download stuff chat on the other, so i dont feel a lag in my network connection. So yes i did get it to work.

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    Originally posted by deoblo1
    well lets see I now have Verizon Dsl (500+ kb down load) and Srping Biz dsl (5 times as fast a t1 down load)
    why dont you just get another pc, run you web off of the verizon and dload and chat off the spring biz. i cant see why money would be a problem with the money your forking out for access.

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    Originally posted by deoblo1
    well lets see I now have Verizon Dsl (500+ kb down load) and Srping Biz dsl (5 times as fast a t1 down load) so I guess now with dual nics that would help now would't it??? so now my website can run off one line, and i can download stuff chat on the other, so i dont feel a lag in my network connection. So yes i did get it to work.
    a telephone line is not as fast as a T1, sorry

    you didn't get teeh nic running like you ask, by using one dialup or ISP, you are running 2 which defeats the purpose of this thread.

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    i got a 2nd NIC to start my own network but haven't used it.

    I couldn't be bothered figuring out how to do it.

    Maybe i should disconnect it from the computer, save a bit of power

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    a telephone line is not as fast as a T1, sorry

    you didn't get teeh nic running like you ask, by using one dialup or ISP, you are running 2 which defeats the purpose of this thread.
    Are you feeling ok? DSL now that means Digital Subscriber Line. Hmm lets think for a second .... DSL plugs into a routor and that plugs into a hub or a switch in my case, and then my computer plugs into that. And it all uses Catagory 5 cable. it is a NETWORK. Let me think...I am not useing a modem. I am useing a NETWORK INTERFACE CARD also known as NIC. And yes a telephone line is as fast as a T1 because that is what out Sprint DSL is running on. And oh wait lets make sure we are on the same page now ok so scoutt understands.

    from the phone co on the phone lines out side my house and then into my house then into a dsl routor, then into a switch, then into my computer. The amount of band with I get from sprint is 5 TIMES AS FAST AS A T1. Now yes I know that a T1 uses mult Phone lines but how long has a t1 been around....hmm and how long has dsl been around. Yeah so scoutt, dont say nothing unless you understand.

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    Originally posted by deoblo1


    Are you feeling ok? DSL now that means Digital Subscriber Line. Hmm lets think for a second .... DSL plugs into a routor and that plugs into a hub or a switch in my case, and then my computer plugs into that. And it all uses Catagory 5 cable. it is a NETWORK. Let me think...I am not useing a modem. I am useing a NETWORK INTERFACE CARD also known as NIC. And yes a telephone line is as fast as a T1 because that is what out Sprint DSL is running on. And oh wait lets make sure we are on the same page now ok so scoutt understands.

    from the phone co on the phone lines out side my house and then into my house then into a dsl routor, then into a switch, then into my computer. The amount of band with I get from sprint is 5 TIMES AS FAST AS A T1. Now yes I know that a T1 uses mult Phone lines but how long has a t1 been around....hmm and how long has dsl been around. Yeah so scoutt, dont say nothing unless you understand.
    my appologies as I was thinking of something else at the time. you know where you have 5 things going on at once and you get confused and mix them all up. I was just to tied up to edit that post.

    and you are using a modem, you dial everytime you start your computer, it just never disconnects.

    thank for correcting me.

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    ???

    Are you all getting your K's mixed up with your M's???

    Even if you have a 10 baseT NIC - that's 10M (as opposed to a 100 baseT which is 100M) it's still gonna handle way more than your DSL modem. Your bottleneck is your DSL - not your NIC. And NO - DSL is not faster than a T1 - T1 speeds are up to 1.5M - The Verizon bronze package, which is the most common and probably what you have is up to 768K.
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    Sprint DSL is 5 times as fast as a T1 you want to know how i know this because I am useing it right now.

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    Is it Sprint or Verizon? You mentioned both. Maybe one is your DSL and the other is your ISP???

    Anyway, 512kbps to 1.5Mbps is what Sprint says thier DSL is rated at. Either way, it's not 5 times faster. Even if your lucky enough to be on the high end, it's still just equal to a T1 - which, as I mentioned before was 1.5Mbps.

    Getting back to what this thread was originally about, and at the rates we're talking about, you could still put at least 6 T1's (or Sprint DSL connections!) on your NIC.

    Are you measuring in bits or bytes... maybe that's why your numbers don't seem quite right.

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    ok Verizon is one of our isp's we own 13 of there ip addresses and the speed tops out at about 700kbps. Well they kept over chargeing us, so we signed up with Sprint dsl and on there add it says 5 times as fast as a T1, and 55 times as fast as regular DSL. So right now we have 2 isp's verizon where we have 13 static ip address, and sprint where we have 5 static ip addresses.

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    Originally posted by deoblo1
    Sprint DSL is 5 times as fast as a T1 you want to know how i know this because I am useing it right now.
    T1 = 1.5Mbps

    5 times faster..7mbps DSL I don't think so
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    This is for work or what? Who else can afford 5 static IP addresses just to play with? Are you sure about that? Or is it 5 e-mail accounts? I gotta know what you’re paying for that.

    And if you don’t know how much the bill is then it’s probably not your bill. Your boss, or your Daddy, or whoever is paying the bill, should have your butt for running KAZAA on the network. The worst Gnutella client (ad wise) I’ve seen to date.

    BTW, even a T3 (45Mbs) is less than 55 time faster than a T1.

    Oh yeah,

    we signed up with Sprint dsl and on there add it says 5 times as fast as a T1, and 55 times as fast as regular DSL
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    when i find the add ill take a pic of it dont know what my dad did with it. Umm lets see the sprint is $150 a month and they are now our long distance and local phone co too i think. the verizon is $70 a month i think but about $40 of that is the 13 ip addresses. My dad needs the static ip address for our e-mail server and stuff for work. but we are ditching verizon in a few days b/c they were double chargeing my dad. but until he gets the sprint configured we are still useing verizon...kinda sucks. And yes i run kazaa but i dont share my stuff or when i do i dont use give out a lot of band with. I let my friends use my ftp for stuff. I figure my computer can handle that since it's packing dual pentium 3's running at a 1ghz each, with a geforce 3 and 2 20 gig hard drives in a 40 gig raid array (striped in 32k sectors). But yeah so far i figure kazaa is the best P2P out there, and i got rid of that crap that get's installed with it...some g2 thing or something.

    And yes my dad's work pays for the internet, and yes this is at my house...good bandwith comeing into a house

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    deoblo1: don't say anything unless you understand. I have cable at my house and I know it is fasterr than DSL, so I am running at 740kbs and you say you are at that speed. I also know that DSL is slower becaue my friend has one and I also know I am slower than a T1. So unless you don't understand and so that we are on the same page and stop braggfin gabout how many IP you ahve. big deal. DSL still sucks.
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    ok, when you have 13 computers on a network the band with goes down...and let me go get a pic of that add..then when the sprint get's hooked up ill test my bandwith and then ill show you that im beating you. Also DSL is nice when there are a lot of people in your area because what happens to cable when a lot of people in your area have it...oh yeah your speed goes DOWN

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    hmmmmmm another misconstrude conception. my whole neighboor has it, in fact my whole town has it. speed still at 740kbs. hmm go figure.

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    oh well...you know what I dont pay for any of this, Im hitting 617kbs that's just a little off your 700 and that was only with the Verizon, so when I get the sprint hooked up...ill get back to you with the speed. But for now as long as I have verizon in order to get 700+ speed I would have to walk into the other room and shut off the 2 servers, the wireless network, the switch...yeah a whole bunch of stuff because a lot of computers are running on this one dsl line. So yeah you win so far because Im too lazy to shut all that stuff off.

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    Ok the sprint is hooked up we just dont have the routor configured yet. But they ran a speed test on it and this is what we got. Speed up 896kbps down 7008kbps so everyone lets have a nice day

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    Okay, now hop on over to http://www.dslreports.com and run the connection speed test, then post the results like scoutt did. Then we can see the actual value...

    Even if you're getting those kind of throughputs...
    7008kbps is still less than what your 10Mbps NIC can handle.

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    ok the reason I have 2 nics is because my raid and nic were on the same irq and when ever they do a lot I get a blue Screen of Death, so to split the load up I put another nic in there, and I dont get the Blue screen of death, and yes I tried 2 different nics, and in all 5 pci slots but with 2 nics it works just fine. The sprint is wired into the house but like i said the routor is not configured yet so i am still useing the verizon. But when they put it in the sprint guy pluged in his lap top and ran a speed test and those were the results. btw I have a 10/100 nic.

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