A big project

[Magiaus]

ok before you read further look here

ok you see the domain. it is mine has been for maybe a year or more. I have up to this point been unable to work on what I hoped would be one of the top 20 vb sites on the net. When I bought it I thought i could do it all myself and i knew everything(yeah right). but i haven't even been able to get an interface up for very long because of work, family, life so on. So after much thought I have decided to recruit people for the project. It is a no pay job, if you want to help it will be because you want a place to go and find that code you needed or that code you lost or well you get the idea....

If you are interested post and say what you have to offer and what you want to do.

Cander I am going to ask you to join up on this in what ever fashion you like because you posted a tutorial here and you displayed very good knowledge in that XML thread

I am in no way going to dictate what the site will or can be I open to suggestions from anyone who wants to help and has something to offer the only thing i see has important is that we don't forget about vb6 altogether for a good long while.

ok here is what the site needs most.

• DBA
  Graphic Designer(s)
  Project Manger(s)
  a server i have it hosted on a free brinkster port right now..i can elaborate
  ASP & ASPX Coder(s)
  and a good hard design session

so more or less what i have in mind is a place similar to vbworld and vbsquare or maybe we could even become an affiliate but i am thinking it should be more user driven. like we the started don't have to always post new articles and things because users will submit them and so on

if you guys show an interest we can talk about it more in depth later

[MedevH]

I am proficient in FLASH 5, 6
Photoshop, Illustrator, ASP ASPx(Learning)
VB and the like.

Well hell I thought I was apart of this already
Got one hell of an interface IDEA already.

Just have to find the time to put it in the works.

[Cander]

mmm as much as Id love to help..
I am just too busy with work and other projects . I just got handed 2 more projects that need to be done in an unrealistic amount of time...I can help with specific questions and give support, I just cant really provide alot of time to actual programming/design/etc..

[Magiaus]

you can write an article or something later if you want

[Cander]

sure thing..

[MedevH]

What a bummer, sure would be nice to see some of your input,
on this site Cander.

Ah well
C'est La Vie!

Peace Guru Dude!

[Cander]

Well I can provide some input if there is anything you need, if not able to provide the actual code, I can probably point you in the right direction.

[Magiaus]

you don't need to be a guru you just need to want to help and want to learn because we are all learning .Net right?

I have linked this into the db forum the general forum and the asp forum also so anybody who wants to help and thinks they have the time to help just post what you can do and how often you can do it

the important parts are going to be the DBA and Project Managers it will be there job to do the heavy lifting the coders will be doing small things here and there and of course we will need some people who want to make tutorials

[cafeenman]

Umm... first, I don't have .net or know anything about it. Second, I don't know xml. Third, I followed your link and got a page that said "under construction." So I don't know how I can help. I know a bit of vb and some image editing stuff.

[Magiaus]

the site does not exist as of yet i am looking for people who want help make something like that actually i really won't even be involved that much if there are competent people who want to do it because i don't have time and i wanted the site to be something so i am willing to give it away to see that happen

in a sense at least, i do want to be a part of it a coder maybe but not the dba or a project manager well maybe a dba

maybe i should change the title to recruiting or giving away a web site to intersted development group

[Magiaus]

dot net is free download the framework and you are ready to develop

[DarioXP]

Originally posted by Magiaus
dot net is free download the framework and you are ready to develop

WITHOUT MSDN SUBSCRIPTION?!? TELL ME HOW!!!
(Sorry for CAPS)

[MedevH]

The free download for the Framework SDK

http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/...mpositedoc.xml

Go here and download it !!

Mind you its not Visual Studio.NET like I'm thinking your thinking it is.

But it is the framework just use NotePad and the Compiler Batch program that comes with it to run your prog's

Later

[Magiaus]

i took this out into the more savage, older boards and brought morouns back with me i'm sorry

i did answer a few of thier questions while i was there though

[Magiaus]

i doubt i'll be going back

[DarioXP]

I was so stupid!!!
How did I could believe it was visual studio .Net?!?

Anyway can you explain me how does the batch compiler thing works... can I really develop applications with notepad?

Thanks in advance

[goatse]

I can do SQL Server databases and a bit of XML, ASP.NET (VB, learning C#)... dunno how much time i'll be able to put in tho.

[Magiaus]

you go to a dos prompt

type vbc filename.vb /r:anyassembliesAreIncludedLikeThis /r:yesLikeThis /target:WinExe /out:"app name.exe"

if you dled the framework sdk the compiler is covered in more depth i just wole up i'll explain in more detail later

[Magiaus]

when there ar a few more people we can talk about meeting in a chatroom somewhere or maybe upload a private chat to the site to use... i have one almost innished it's done in flash

[joan_fl]

I'll help out when I can. I'm wrapping up my site, but I should be "done"/launch soon. After that, I'd like to help out with some of the programming. Email me.

Joan

[Magiaus]

so far we have 4 people counting me, so anyone else just say i wanna help

[cafeenman]

I would have, but after seeing how you and your "brother" conduct yourselves, I think I'll count myself out. Good luck though.

http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...hreadid=161883

[Magiaus]

like you weren't having as much fun as us

but hey its cool

[mendhak]

I still haven't seen you get any suggestions as to what exactly the site should be like.

WHat do YOU have in mind? something like the vbworld.com/vbforums.com collaboration?

with tons of tutorials and a great forum? Or are you just planning to offer snippets?

Perhaps you should tell everyone what exactly you're looking for?

[rjlohan]

Yeah, what the hell is this 'big project' supposed to be exactly? You're aware aren't you that VBF is a massive site that has been under constant development for years? You're not gonna whip something like this up in your... or rather everyone else's... free time...

[Magiaus]

i will make up a doc on exactly what is in my head ok

give me 30 -60 min

[Magiaus]

The general idea is that yes I believe that a group of 100+ coders spending 1 to 2 hrs a day could build something of that scale in a few months. I want to explain that I would probably be spending 6 – 12 hrs a day on it until it was pretty well formed and built up. The idea was for interested people to get together and then we would have a design session and decided just what we wanted to try and achieve.

I am not trying to build a crew to lord over. I am trying to build a team of equals.

The best and the brightest being team leaders and having the final say on what happens to a specific projects (section of the site), and the DBA’s working with the Project Manager’s (team leaders) to setup the database/xml structure. Then the team leader will take what was talked about in the design session and what he and the DBA worked up and make a flow chart/design spec and go to a project management web and look at who is available to devote some time and what they are able to do and break the project into sections very small sections like one handles insert, another update, and another delete pages and forms. That way no one person has more than a few hrs of work at a time. The Project manager after finding his people sends them the flow control and the list of the people they are working with, then the programmers can either make an estimate on time or decline the project.

Finally once the site is built up, and everything is working users will be able to write and submit article, tutorials and code. Each user will have an admin web for their submission and other users will be able to rate and/or bad mouth that users stuff. Basically after the initial construction phase I am hoping that people will like what we have made and want to build it up.

I myself have around 600mb of code that I am going to go through and upload and I hope that every body else will have some things to submit. Finally I hope that one day maybe the site will become big enough that those who started it will start to earn some money and we will all be happy and proud of what we did and our resumes will look all that much better.

[Magiaus]

Originally posted by rjlohan
Yeah, what the hell is this 'big project' supposed to be exactly? You're aware aren't you that VBF is a massive site that has been under constant development for years? You're not gonna whip something like this up in your... or rather everyone else's... free time...

actually the code for this place was rewritten from ubb

everybody and thier brother has a board like this.

that said i don't want to get into it with you guys again, ok i had my fun you had yours, lets keep this serious

[Magiaus]

as i said before these 2 groups of people will doing allot of work and i have a few people in mind for that if i can track them down. I wouldn't ask anyone who wasn't a close friend to undertake that kind of work for free.

I guess I am going to have to be a DBA/Project Manager though I didn't really want to be, because I wanted this to be about the users not about what I want.....

[Magiaus]

Originally posted by cafeenman
I would have, but after seeing how you and your "brother" conduct yourselves, I think I'll count myself out. Good luck though.

http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...hreadid=161883

everyone who is interested please go read this increadbly funny thread cofeenman linked. I want people who want to work with me to see how i and others conduct themselves. It is really funny, and some what stupid. and also locked thats why they came in here....

[Magiaus]

tonight sometime i am going to setup a very simple form on the site were people who are interested can go and fill out some info and get onboard, it should most likely be up and working by tomorrow

i will also start working on some other systems linked up with this to get the ball rolling, like a chat room where we can meet and brain storm

any suggestion as to things we need to get going would be appriciated

[MedevH]

I actually think Magiaus' Idea is good.
I am really thinking it is going to be a good rescource for young programmers with out Careers to actually display all thier work.

This site is in the works to be a USER BUILT site no one is taking credit for it.
No one is going to get paid for it.
It is just going to be a really good place for people to post thier latest tutorials, snippets, Beta programs for debugging,
and all the other wonderful chit that goes along with Programming in general.

I wouldn't call my self an Elite programmer,
So I'm sure this site is also going to provide a place for FLASHers
like myself to post some things they would like to show off just to get thier name out on the web or whatever the reason is.

Or atleast that is what I WOULD CONTRIBUTE.

Magiaus is merely planning on setting up an information exchange where everyone can get together and go code happy.

Build a website from the groud up for the pure reason of bettering oneself and helping others along the way.

[Magiaus]

I haven't been able to upload the reg form yet because i got real busy all of sudden and am having to go out of town until sunday. I will finish it up and upload it monday.

Also I am looking into seting up server space at maximum asp. I plan to setup for an intiual year to start with and then depending on what develops go from there. If we are doing well at the end of that year I will setup an actual server at an isp close to me where we will have the whole machine for our site, only limts will be bandwidth in other words. I am hoping maybe Windows.Net will be out and stable by then and we can have a really bad to the bone server. If not we will just have to stick with win2kass (Windows 2000 Advanced Server "Son" as i tell my son hehe).

so anyway the the form got delayed and I looking into servers. gemmie some input peeps

later

[Magiaus]

nobody has said anything in this in awhile so i am just going to let everyone who is intersted know that i do have a skelatol site up with some forms and some backend stuff starting to come together but i am going to have to wait till next month sometime after i setup a good server to start uploading. at that point hopefully some more people will show an interest and things can get rolling

[joan_fl]

Just keep letting us know the status, and how things are progressing from time to time.

By the time you get the new server I should be done with my site... or at least done enough to help your project from time to time.

Joan

[Magiaus]

i will keep everyone up to date on what is going on and maybe upload the interface fr comment

i would upload more but i decieded to make the backend work in dll's and namespaces and the server i am on now is having problems with this right now, once we get on max asp though all problems will be over they are the best i have ever dealt with they are awsome high priced but awsome

[formulav8]

How about giving me some articles and code to add to my site

I'm maintaining my site completly by myself.

[programatix]

I would be happy to help in everything I can. Currently I am developing a project for my own school using web service and windows form. Actually this is an upgrade from previous VB 6 project but I'm rewriting everything to use web service.

The server is Windows 2000 Advanced Server with SQL Server 2000 running.

[Magiaus]

Originally posted by formulav8
How about giving me some articles and code to add to my site

I'm maintaining my site completly by myself.

well i am not the best teacher in the world so i don't try to write tutorials anymore i do write some articles though. But, right now i am pretty focused on getting my site up and working for everybody who wants to be part of it, plus taking care of my 2 year old and some other stuff. So i am pretty maxed out right now. But i will say we could possible affiliate and share articles and tutorials.

[Magiaus]

yeah until i get this thing up just post in here if you want to be a part of this

i have just finneshed desining the project system and am getting ready to start codeing it so we can all keep track of whats what and who is who and all that