Anti-unix Marketing campaign

[thinktank2]

From http://news.com.com/2100-1001-870805.html

Unisys, Microsoft to launch anti-Unix ads
Unisys and Microsoft plan to launch a marketing campaign Friday that seeks to undermine Unix, the operating system at the heart of powerful server lines from rivals Sun Microsystems, IBM and Hewlett-Packard.
Unisys is spending $25 million on the campaign, spokeswoman Pasha Ray said. Microsoft is adding funding of its own but declined to say how much.

The 18-month project will include advertisements, technical sales efforts and other marketing work plugging Unisys' high-end server and Microsoft's top-end version of Windows--two products that so far have made only their first steps into the data centers where high-end servers often reside.

The campaign, called "We have the way out," describes Unix as an expensive trap. "No wonder Unix makes you feel boxed in. It ties you to an inflexible system. It requires you to pay for expensive experts. It makes you struggle daily with a server environment that's more complex than ever," one ad reads.

The same ad depicts a scene in which a computer user has painted himself into a corner with purple paint. Sun's servers are manufactured in a shade of purple similar to that in the ad.

Sun responded to the campaign in a statement. "Sun still does not see Microsoft as a real threat in the datacenter market where reliability, availability, serviceability and security are key," the company said. "As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows."

Two technologies are at the center of the campaign. The Unisys ES7000 server can accommodate as many as 32 Intel processors and can be divided into independent "partitions," each with its own operating system. The Datacenter version of Windows 2000 can run on machines with as many as 32 processors. These top-end configurations are rare, Unisys has said, with eight-, 12-, or 16-processor partitions more common.

Unisys faces competition not only from Unix servers, which have accommodated dozens of processors for years, but also from IBM's new Summit servers, which top out at 16 processors but cost considerably less than the ES7000.

Another obstacle for Unisys: Only a few hundred ES7000 servers have been sold so far, and sales partnerships with Dell, Compaq and Hewlett-Packard have all fallen apart.

Now for the funny part...
Using Netcraft's "what the site is running ?" feature
( http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...submit=Examine )
to find out what http://www.wehavethewayout.com/ is running reveals

The site www.wehavethewayout.com is running Rapidsite/Apa-1.3.14 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.5a on FreeBSD

Ooops... FreeBSD... not Unix ???

[filburt1]

This is the stupidest thing ever:

The campaign, called "We have the way out," describes Unix as an expensive trap. "No wonder Unix makes you feel boxed in. It ties you to an inflexible system. It requires you to pay for expensive experts. It makes you struggle daily with a server environment that's more complex than ever," one ad reads.

[thinktank2]

From http://www.netcraft.com/Survey/index-200003.html

Last month's survey announcement pointed out that compaq.com was running Solaris. Many people at Compaq noticed this, and compaq.com is now running Tru64 UNIX.
On a related note, it's notable that the Linux evangelism bandwagon is bringing in people more prepared to envangelise the operating system than run it themselves. At the last Linux Expo in London, more of the exhibitor companies were running Microsoft-IIS than Linux on their own sites. Recently queried sites on our server query form include; linux.ora.com which runs Solaris, while linuxbeacon.com is an early adopter of Windows 2000 along with the shortlived www.linuxanswers.co.uk and the parody domain names www.slashdot.org.uk and www.freshmeat.org. However, contrary to what one might expect, www.linuxsucks.org runs Linux.

[Gandalf_Grey_]

ya that is hitting below the belt

[thinktank2]

MICROSOFT: WE HAVE THE WAY OUT
http://www.wehavethewayout.com/

UNIX: WE HAVE THE WAY IN
http://www.wehavethewayin.com/

[DerFarm]

Lord how I hate penquins.

[parksie]

I don't really care what server a site runs as long as it serves the pages and stays up.

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by thinktank2

Now for the funny part...
Using Netcraft's "what the site is running ?" feature
( http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?...submit=Examine )
to find out what http://www.wehavethewayout.com/ is running reveals


Ooops... FreeBSD... not Unix ???

Umm, it's running Microsoft IIS 5.0 on Windows 2000

The site www.wehavethewayout.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000. FAQ

Windows 2000 users include BigCharts, www.dell.com, Ford Motor and Intel Corporation

Microsoft-IIS is also being used by Intel Corporation, The Nasdaq Stock Market, www.rainbow.com and The British Royal Family

[parksie]

Look at the history....it changed today

Obviously once they noticed the news they swapped it over.

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by parksie
Look at the history....it changed today

Obviously once they noticed the news they swapped it over.

There's nothing on the site, something must have happened.

[parksie]

OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.wehavethewayout.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 2-Apr-2002 130.94.214.143 Verio, Inc.
FreeBSD Rapidsite/Apa-1.3.14 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.5a 28-Mar-2002 198.63.57.204 Verio, Inc.

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by parksie
OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.wehavethewayout.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 2-Apr-2002 130.94.214.143 Verio, Inc.
FreeBSD Rapidsite/Apa-1.3.14 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.5a 28-Mar-2002 198.63.57.204 Verio, Inc.

Verio hosts the site, so the client doesn't really control WHAT the site gets hosted by

Verio decides that. And they've apparently switched it to 2k.

[parksie]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
Verio hosts the site, so the client doesn't really control WHAT the site gets hosted by

Verio decides that. And they've apparently switched it to 2k.

Most hosts that you pay for let you choose the OS if they support more than one.

But still suspicious that it's changed over, don't ya think

[thinktank2]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman


There's nothing on the site, something must have happened.

It seems in a hurry..they Just changed the DNS..

so the older ip still works ( freebsd machine)

Yesterday...
http://198.63.57.204/

[JungleMan]

They should have kept it on Unix and purposely make the site go down. So they can blame the site problems on Unix

Disclaimer: I'm only kidding...Unix is good for that kind of stuff

[thinktank2]

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
They should have kept it on Unix and purposely make the site go down. So they can blame the site problems on Unix

Disclaimer: I'm only kidding...Unix is good for that kind of stuff

What do you mean kidding ?
It is a perfect marketing tactic. Further, they could let the server get hacked my angry unix fans and blame it on "the lack of security in unix"

[JungleMan]

Originally posted by thinktank2


What do you mean kidding ?
It is a perfect marketing tactic. Further, they could let the server get hacked my angry unix fans and blame it on "the lack of security in unix"

I said I was kidding because I didn't want anyone to flame me because they thought i was calling Unix a bad OS which it isn't.