Sen. Hollings introduces renamed SSSCA bill

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:12 PM

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...nested&tid=103

What an asshat

I always trash their overpriced CPUs but I thank Intel for opposing this bill

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:14 PM

*hugs Canadian ground*

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Gandalf_Grey_
*hugs Canadian ground*

You guys got it just as bad with that new CD media tax

but if this is passed I'm having you build me a rig and sending it to my house.

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:15 PM

Eventually computers will be so restriced, so closed source that warez will be gone, there won't be any fun to be had on the internet

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Gandalf_Grey_
Eventually computers will be so restriced, so closed source that warez will be gone, there won't be any fun to be had on the internet

Big business ruins everything

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:18 PM

ya that CD-R bil sucks, however i wrote a letter or 6 to claude mageau (the guy in charge of it). I don't think it will be passed. the US actually has the better deal, when i order computer parts online i always have to have them shipped to Rydens Boarder Store (a store about 100 meters over the US boarder) because there aren't that many online computer stores in Canada and shipping will kill you. So i gotta drive 40 km to the boarder just to get a package

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Gandalf_Grey_
ya that CD-R bil sucks, however i wrote a letter or 6 to claude mageau (the guy in charge of it). I don't think it will be passed. the US actually has the better deal, when i order computer parts online i always have to have them shipped to Rydens Boarder Store (a store about 100 meters over the US boarder) because there aren't that many online computer stores in Canada and shipping will kill you. So i gotta drive 40 km to the boarder just to get a package

I need to move to the US/Canadian border.

Live in canada, buy CDRs in the US...

**Gimlin** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:20 PM

Its not big business its the MONDO MEGA HUGE BULLSEET companies. like M$, Intel, Nvidia, Dell, IBM, etc. If they just backed off an bit, and stopped trying to dominate the world, things would be much better.

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Gimlin
Its not big business its the MONDO MEGA HUGE BULLSEET companies. like M$, Intel, Nvidia, Dell, IBM, etc. If they just backed off an bit, and stopped trying to dominate the world, things would be much better.

Actually those are the companies opposing it

It's the ass-knockers like Disney that are promoting it

**Gimlin** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:23 PM

Not the bill per say but M$ keeps trying harder and harder to stop piracy by using and creating more and more laws. Intel is brainwashing the world to use there ****. Nvidia trys to trick people into buy there crap line of cards. Dells proganda goes unmatched....

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Gimlin
Not the bill per say but M$ keeps trying harder and harder to stop piracy by using and creating more and more laws. Intel is brainwashing the world to use there ****. Nvidia trys to trick people into buy there crap line of cards. Dells proganda goes unmatched....

You think much like I do although I don't really hate MS

their anti-piracy stuff is gay but do I care about rules, no

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:25 PM

well those companie sin general demand waay inflated prices for stuff that any sane person would sell dirt cheap, this forces warez sties to pop up (cause everyone can't afford VB Studio.net), this causes the big companies to clamp down even harder resulting in bills which restrict computer use. Although in this particular case this isnt' true

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman

You think much like I do although I don't really hate MS

their anti-piracy stuff is gay but do I care about rules, no

i wish i could say the same about not hating microsoft, thier past and present bussiness descisions have led me to be a firm microsoft hater, although i will still use thier operating system

for compatability reasons though.

**Gimlin** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:28 PM

The one thing like about M$ is that it sets a standard, and if everyone is using it, its much easier. But way do they have to be so fooking money hungry Windows should cost 69.99 TOPS!! damn it.

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Gandalf_Grey_
thier past and present bussiness descisions have led me to be a firm microsoft hater

Why do you care what business decisions Microsoft makes? What's it to you?

Are you gonna let it affect your way of computing?

You my friend are exactly what I mean by an anti-MS zealot. They may not be angels but they make good software, so I have no problems with them

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Gimlin
The one thing like about M$ is that it sets a standard, and if everyone is using it, its much easier. But way do they have to be so fooking money hungry Windows should cost 69.99 TOPS!! damn it.

I have never paid for a copy of Windows.

**Gimlin** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman

I have never paid for a copy of Windows.

Going on in a bit off a rant here but why the hell does VB.Net have to cost so much? ARG! how do they expect to get child programming prodigies. VB.net is what 1k? how the fook is a kid supposed to raise that, and just for software and that is probably Manditory for a career in that area FOOK.

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:35 PM

I am not an anti-microsoft zeolot, i dislike the bussiness descisions that they have, made thats it. I use thier operating system because it is a nice OS and it is widely compatable.

Surplrisingly i own every single microsoft OS legally except 2000 and NT4. Dos and 3.1 came on a new machine together, win95 i have 2 liscenses of this, they were both given to me by my uncle who used to work for compaq and got them from compaq for his home computer. 98 came with the 266mhz in my brothers room, ME came with the computer i am on. XP due to some ahem legal complications, me and a bunch of people at school ran out and bought XP the minute it came out.

**Gimlin** · Mar 21st, 2002, 08:50 PM

Where do you live in Canada? Gandalf?

**nishantp** · Mar 21st, 2002, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman

I have never paid for a copy of Windows.

*experiences admiration for Justin for the first time*

Zaei · Mar 21st, 2002, 09:52 PM

VB.net costs $109US, just like every other VS.net component. I think that is fairly cheap. The corporate version costs more because it has the capability to make more cash for whatever company chooses to buy it. Also, because of the warez sites out there, each product has to cost a bit more to compenstate for each illegal copy that someone didnt pay for. If you dont want to pay so much, get on the people that dont pay at all.

Just imagine yourself being hired by some company that makes cool ****. Now imagine putting out some piece of software that youve always wanted to create. And then imagine finding it on some warez site, with links to porn surrounding it. Would you be happy?

Z.

**JungleMan** · Mar 21st, 2002, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Zaei
VB.net costs $109US, just like every other VS.net component. I think that is fairly cheap. The corporate version costs more because it has the capability to make more cash for whatever company chooses to buy it. Also, because of the warez sites out there, each product has to cost a bit more to compenstate for each illegal copy that someone didnt pay for. If you dont want to pay so much, get on the people that dont pay at all.

Just imagine yourself being hired by some company that makes cool ****. Now imagine putting out some piece of software that youve always wanted to create. And then imagine finding it on some warez site, with links to porn surrounding it. Would you be happy?

Z.

Still doesn't call for such radical action like what is being taken.

**Gimlin** · Mar 21st, 2002, 09:55 PM

What If the products were cheaper, thus decreasing number of warez sites thus decreasing loss, finally decreasing the product cost

Tygur · Mar 21st, 2002, 10:12 PM

I feel that the media companies (Disney, record companies, all of them) are much more scarier than Microsoft ever was. Microsoft was only breaking the rules. These people are trying to change them.

Zaei · Mar 21st, 2002, 10:18 PM

I would say that most of the time, the prices are pretty fair. Writing a compiler, for instance, isnt something you can just sit down one afternoon, and do, much less an entire IDE. I would agree that the action being taken is quite unnecessary (just take a look at the DMCA...), and as far as I can tell, the world is certainly degenerating into the horror stories that put companies vieing against each other for political power, while overshadowing the government.

Z.

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by Gimlin
Where do you live in Canada? Gandalf?

Ya and we might be getting this stupid CD-R tarrif that would raise the price of every CD-R by $1.23. Ouch so if i buy a 50 spindle of CD-R's that costs me about $50 regular with tax and everything plus another $61.5. totalling around $111.5 OUCH. If this bill passes i am taking a trip down to the boarder to pick up some CD's every month

**Gimlin** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 10:02 AM

LOL I ment where in Canada. BC, Ontario etc.?

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 01:40 PM

Ya i live in ontario

**Gimlin** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 04:33 PM

Kewl me too

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 04:36 PM

I live in Thunder Bay

**Gimlin** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 04:40 PM

me i'm in Hamilton

**Gandalf_Grey_** · Mar 22nd, 2002, 05:26 PM

ah I see

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