What do you think of my new PC specs?

**parksie** · Mar 18th, 2002, 04:27 PM

That time has come, and I need a new computer.

Sooo....any recommendations for hardware? I want this to be just under the premium, so I'm not paying a huge amount (i.e. about 1.8ghz or so, with maybe one of the new GeForce cards, or a Radeon 8500?).

Edit: Changed title to be more obvious

**markman** · Mar 18th, 2002, 05:08 PM

Step 1) go to newegg.com and start choosing stuff.
Step 2) order them
Step 3) Build computer
Step 4) find it doesnt work
Step 5) return parts
Step 6) ask justin

**parksie** · Mar 18th, 2002, 06:59 PM

LOL

Okay, after a couple of hours' deliberation with Simon (chenko), we have the following list (prices ex. VAT):

Abit KR7a RAID (non-ATA133) @ £100
AMD Athlon XP-1800 @ £100
Thermalright AX7 heatsink @ £30
YS-TECH FD8125 3pin fan @ £3
80mm fan guards @ £0.76
Arctic Silver III @ £5
Chieftech Scorpio TX-10BLD (blue with extra cooling vents) @ £75
ATI Radeon 8500 OEM @ £128
512mb DDR @ £131

(the Radeon will be unlocked to retail speed)

Total cost: ~£573
Total inc VAT: ~£673

All except the memory comes from overclockers.co.uk, and the memory comes from Crucial.

**zmerlinz** · Mar 18th, 2002, 07:22 PM

very nice, i am going to upgrade my desktop in the summer, so i think that i will keep overclockers in mind, i like their prices

**Sastraxi** · Mar 18th, 2002, 07:52 PM

You might want to get a hard drive and MAYBE a CD-ROM drive, maybe a floppy because you know they are coming in fashion!

**Pix** · Mar 18th, 2002, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman
I was away

Somewhat close to what I would recommend...

I would recommend an Antec case
Shuttle AK35GTR motherboard (Abit is a ripoff )

But yeah that looks good, but Abit is a huge ripoff

I would also get a Maxtor D740X series hard drive...and a Liteon CD burner

no one can ever have the perfect spec can they Justin?

I really ought to build my own at some point

Sounds nice parksie

**JungleMan** · Mar 18th, 2002, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Pix

no one can ever have the perfect spec can they Justin?

I really ought to build my own at some point

Sounds nice parksie

Well there is no perfect spec, I'm just giving my recommendations

girls who listen to great music and build PCs are cool

Wish there were more girls like you in my school...oh well better stay on topic

scoutt · Mar 18th, 2002, 11:24 PM

nice specs Parksie, don't listen to Justin..

but if you plan on running any kind of game I wouldn't get RAID. it will make the games run a lot slower.

**JungleMan** · Mar 18th, 2002, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by scoutt
nice specs Parksie, don't listen to Justin..

but if you plan on running any kind of game I wouldn't get RAID. it will make the games run a lot slower.

You have a problem with Antec cases, or Shuttle boards...?

Orb man

I kinda agree with you on the IBM HDDs now after hearing about the heat issues with the 60GXPs and 75GXPs and power issues with 120GXPs, but Orbs still suck...

chenko · Mar 19th, 2002, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman

You have a problem with Antec cases, or Shuttle boards...?

Orb man

I kinda agree with you on the IBM HDDs now after hearing about the heat issues with the 60GXPs and 75GXPs and power issues with 120GXPs, but Orbs still suck...

the Chieftech is basically an Antec

Sastraxi, Justin, already has all that stuff and didnt want it specified

scoutt, he isnt using it for raid, just the extra channels, anyways, you would install games on a lone HDD anyways

Shuttle AK35GTR, cant even find a retailler in the UK for this, plus... might be a "rip off" to you, but you really need to watch the UK market a bit more

Jethro · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:01 AM

No backup unit.........

Maxtor hard drives suck....mainly cause l can't get mine to work

On the case front, go full tower, with mega power unit. You will find it should be cheaper to purchase a case with power unit installed, than to buy them separatly...

Looks like l might have to build a system as well....friggin outdated BIOS.....

chenko · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:32 AM

well its not a full tower, it would be an extra 60£ for a full tower (like mine muwahahah

), which would be monsterous, the case specified is large enough as it is, and already has a PSU in it

**JungleMan** · Mar 19th, 2002, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by chenko

the Chieftech is basically an Antec

Sorry, that went whooosh over my head

I like the Antecs though since they come with high quality Antec power supplies

**JungleMan** · Mar 19th, 2002, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Jethro
No backup unit.........

Maxtor hard drives suck....mainly cause l can't get mine to work

everyone has good and bad luck with drives, from what I've seen, Maxtors seem to be the ones that the fewest people are cursing at

chenko · Mar 19th, 2002, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by jpbtennisman

Sorry, that went whooosh over my head

I like the Antecs though since they come with high quality Antec power supplies

yea, the antecs' PSU's are better, thou, i didnt want to go to another site to pay extra for a case, and also pay more money in delivery charges, as the Chieftech is basically the same its not really worth it

oh, and my Antec power supplies fan is fluffed, its running at 1/4 of its expected speed :/

**parksie** · Mar 19th, 2002, 12:32 PM

For whoever mentioned it - I'm ripping these out of my computer:

Sound card
Both monitors
FDD
Both HDDs, possibly getting another one
DVD drive, might buy a combo DVD/CDRW and sell that, or just get a CDRW to add to it.

Shuttle AK35GTR - what's the main differences?

**parksie** · Mar 19th, 2002, 12:50 PM

OK nm, it's basically identical to the KR7a, right down to the chipset, RAID setup, and IDE controller

**JungleMan** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by parksie
OK nm, it's basically identical to the KR7a, right down to the chipset, RAID setup, and IDE controller

Yep, thats why I rarely or never recommend an Abit board... $150 and you don't even get onboard sound...

Maybe it'll be, big whoop, 0.5% faster, you'll notice the $50 in your pocket a lot more

**parksie** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:19 PM

Well, it's 100 pounds here, so about 140 of your quaint American dollars

**JungleMan** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:24 PM

Did I also mention the shuttle board has a C-Media audio chip onboard, so it should be better than AC97

I don't know if it's C-Media..but it's better than AC97

**parksie** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:29 PM

AC '97 is just the mixer chip.

My Live! probably blows it away I think ;-)

**JungleMan** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by parksie
AC '97 is just the mixer chip.

My Live! probably blows it away I think ;-)

Oh you have a Live!, well no worries about onboard audio then

**parksie** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:40 PM

Nope

It's one of the components I'm keeping - got it for £20 in an anti-static bag at a computer fair when they were still being sold boxed for £50

**Pix** · Mar 19th, 2002, 05:46 PM

Lucky you

chenko · Mar 20th, 2002, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by parksie
Well, it's 100 pounds here, so about 140 of your quaint American dollars

ah good, somit which is ACCTUALLY cheaper than US.... :/

Justin, what is the rate of sales tax you have?

**JungleMan** · Mar 20th, 2002, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by chenko

ah good, somit which is ACCTUALLY cheaper than US.... :/

Justin, what is the rate of sales tax you have?

Over here in NC it's about 6.5, I THINK, but online orders are tax free

that could change soon though

chenko · Mar 20th, 2002, 06:49 AM

well your still lucky even if they introduce that, 17.4 here :/

**sail3005** · Mar 20th, 2002, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by chenko
well your still lucky even if they introduce that, 17.4 here :/

HOLY BEJEEEEEEZZEZ!!

**Gimlin** · Mar 20th, 2002, 07:24 AM

Its 15 here, 8 in BC though

chenko · Mar 20th, 2002, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by sail3005

HOLY BEJEEEEEEZZEZ!!

at least we have faster delivery

scoutt · Mar 20th, 2002, 08:57 AM

here in oregon we don't have any sales tax

**sail3005** · Mar 20th, 2002, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by chenko

at least we have faster delivery

do you get tax for internet purchases there?

**parksie** · Mar 20th, 2002, 06:51 PM

I think we get tax on most things

Although fuel tax is ridiculous, it's about 85% or something!

**sail3005** · Mar 20th, 2002, 06:59 PM

lol, that explains why london is like the most expensive city to live in

**nabeels786** · Mar 20th, 2002, 07:01 PM

85% tax...whoa

i got basically the same as your parksie, except i got a sb audigy and a 60gb hd and different ram

my mobo, heatsink and fan (yeah justin i ordered the ax-7 and the sunon fan)....should be coming on monday

then i just gotta decide on a vid card

**parksie** · Mar 20th, 2002, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by sail3005
lol, that explains why london is like the most expensive city to live in

Nope, it's because it's the City

**parksie** · Mar 20th, 2002, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by nabeels786
85% tax...whoa

i got basically the same as your parksie, except i got a sb audigy and a 60gb hd and different ram

my mobo, heatsink and fan (yeah justin i ordered the ax-7 and the sunon fan)....should be coming on monday

then i just gotta decide on a vid card

I don't really need another sound card, and 35gb is enough for now, will probably get a 100gb disk in the near future though

**JungleMan** · Mar 20th, 2002, 09:04 PM

Word of mouth has it that you ordered the KR7A-RAID

It's a great board and I'm not trashing your decision, and the Shuttle I have heard is not available in UK, it's good just a little pricey

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