Starting ASP.Net

[veryjonny]

hi guys,

This is a very basic question. I am to bored to read the documentation , so kindly tell the very basics configuration os IIS to start ASP.Net.

My IIS 5 is running properly with asp pages. I have just install microsoft's .NETSDK. Now what is the next step.


Forgive me for my laziness.......zzzzz

[chrismitchell]

Thats what I'm wanting to look into.. supposedly ASP.NET is alot like VB6... I'm learning VB6 to learn ASP.NET.. Tho thats what I've heard...

[veryjonny]

I believe it will be more like VB.Net, if you are starting then start straight away with VB.Net.

[chrismitchell]

I think that I will. but the syntax is meant to be the same ...

[veryjonny]

Except that the microsoft guys have chnaged a few things....

[chrismitchell]

Well you learn something new every day

[Calvan]

Hope to hear more things from this forums......

[Cander]

veryjohnny: once isntalling sdk is done, you should be ready to use ASP .NET.

everyone: yes you have advantage of full VB .NET to write your logic for your asp .net pages now instead of limited vbscript.

[Redth]

mmm

i must say, at this point i really don't like making asp pages in VB.NET .... i hate all the extra crap it puts in.. i prefer frontpage (for the ease of making tables n such)....

i just wish there was a program that did all the highlighting and all the popup lists of different functions for an object (example: type objRS. and list pops up with like choices Recordset, Close, Open, etc).. and also tooltips to tell you what variables are expected to be passed in a function...

and of course mix in frontpage's page design, and preview... then, that would be my dream program...

i really like to do things the manual way in my code to a point.. i don't like to have it put in all sorts of extra crap....

im just too lazy to type all the capitals in my variables etc that make the code look so much neater...

neways.. nough bout my complaining...

[Cander]

Visuall Notepad rocks!!

[Redth]

what's this visual notepad? where's that at?

[veryjonny]

After installing SDK, the aspx pages do not come - I get a message stating - Server unavailbale.

But the asp pages come just fine.


I think I need to set some permissions, I have already assigned the read and list permissions to the aspweb user.

[veryjonny]

I think it is something simple, heres a screen short.

[Cander]

Originally posted by Redth
what's this visual notepad? where's that at?

its a joke..I am referring to notepad.exe that comes with windows...Visual Programmers that prefer to use notepad call it Visual Notepad as a joke.

[Cander]

hmm never seen that error..


Try isntalling the quickstart tutorials and see if those work..if so then everything should be configured correctly.

[Jerry Grant]

I know the old ASP was great, but had a few limitations, and code gets very fragmented and difficult to maintain after a while on complicated sites.

However ASP.NET is all old ASP was plus a whole lot more!

You can use it as before (more or less, with inline run at server VBScript), but have the ability to use the full power and functionality of C++.NET, C#.NET and VB.NET without the need of DLLs to register and the need of CreateObject etc.

You will need Visual Studio .Net of course to compile the code behind if you are to maximize the performance of the new <asp:xxxxx> tags.

The coolest thing, is that you don't have to do any browser type detection in ASP.NET, Just create a page based on the minimum browser spec you want to deliver to, then code using the new ASP tags, then when the page is requested from the browser, then only the browser supported code will be delivered!

You can forget about Client side DHTML coding for validation of form with the new RequiredFieldValidator, RegularExpressionValidator and RangeValidator objects.
Just drop them on a webForm (ASPX page) and set their properties. These will write the client side Javascript for you!

I'm converted, and you would be if you give it half a chance.

[veryjonny]

Cander : I have installed the quickstart tutorials but I get the same error.

Jerry Grant: Thanks for all that info. Perphaps u can point me to good link where they show the basics of starting with ASP.NET with VB.NET

[Cander]

well i have some more questions..

A)are you trying to access a .aspx when this happens?
b)is iis running?
c)Do the quickstarts tutorials run?

[Jerry Grant]

Check out this book.

Coding Techniques for Microsoft Visual Basic.NET

Yeah, I know it's VB.NET but it explains all the stuff you will need to get started. Then when you have the hang of .NET Framework classes and how powerfull they are, read the section on ASP.NET. This will allow to to utilise the classes over the web, it's a breeze!

[veryjonny]

Jerry Grant: Thanks for the book info, perphaps I might buy that book when its available in my area.

Cander: I get that error only when I access .aspx pages, asp pages work fine as I mentioned earlier. IIS is running otherwise I wont get asp pages as well.

I tried searching on the net but still cant find anything releated to it.

Damn its been threee days I installed .NET and still havent started with .aspx

[Jerry Grant]

veryjohnny,

I think your problem may be the order in which you installed the Visual Studio.net.
I think you have to ensure you run the installs in the correct order!
[list=1][*]Uninstall any Beta of .NET, Studio and Framework[*]Install the Windows component Update[*]The .NET Framework[*]Visual Studio.NET[/list=1]
I think I read somewhere that ASPX extensions are unavailable if the .NET components are installed in the wrong order.

Before you do this, check the order or the Microsoft web site, as I don't want you to waste your time!

[veryjonny]

Hi guys,

Guess what.

I tried installing SDK on another machine (winxp running iis) and its working fine there.

The steps I followed:

1)IIS was running already.
2)Installed SDK.
3) Installed MSDE.
4) Installed Quickstart tutorials.

And everything is working fine on this machine.

This was the same procedure I followed on the first machine, But Its giving the error I wrote about above.


On both mahines the login I used was "General" which has administrative rights.

Now boy, i can i Think uninstall and do it again. But In that case we will never ever find out what causes that error.

I think in the best interest of all us developers we shd find out what causes "server application unavailable" error.


The following I have already tried btu doesnt help:

1)Give aspnet user suffiecient rigts to read,write,modify,...

but this doesnt help.
2) Gave the aspnet login administrative rights (but even did not solve the prob.

3) I read somewhere that the application aspnet_wp.exe shd be running, but When I tried to start it , it refuses to start with some looooong error message.

Thank you guys for helping me.

bye for now