One of the main reasons I joined is that it is more closely associated with my time zone. VBF turns into tumbleweed city quite often after you Brits go home from work.

I think the loyalty thing is a little over the top....do you buy s/w from only one source? If you found something cheaper and more convenient for you wouldn't you buy it there?

I love VBW and most of the people in it. Going to another site as well as VBW doesn't make me disloyal!!!!!

There is also the no kovan and j4u things going for turtletips! A definite plus in my book!