A new form of piracy ??

**thinktank2** · Jan 4th, 2002, 10:08 PM

I happened to visit this forum

http://www.woltlab.de/en/forum/main.php
Which is run by Woltab Burning Board (WBB)

It's an exact replica of vbulletin but it is free.
I am sure, they wouldn't have worked from scratch to make these pages resemble vBulletin. They could have just copied the vBulletin Files and sprinkled in some changes.
If this is the case, would it be a new form of piracy ?

**parksie** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:27 PM

Hmm. It does look very like vBulletin.

Have you mentioned it to John?

**JungleMan** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:38 PM

Looks like a combo between vB and UBB.

I'm getting it.

**JungleMan** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:40 PM

Yep, it's a copy. Even the syntax is the same...

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:44 PM

abilitites.
Hey, a new JoeSchmoe Entry?

Btw, Make use of the email John link in my sig.
Also Forum Feedback it.

I also say, if John be willing, We should somehow NukeEm.

-Lou

**JungleMan** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:50 PM

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=36790

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:54 PM

Hehh,

Is Their John Our John?

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=36007

-Lou

**chrisjk** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:54 PM

holy crap, I bet the source is almost identical

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 03:59 PM

There John IS Our John:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/membe...tinfo&userid=1

http://www.vbforums.com/member.php?s...nfo&userid=196

[Birthdays are Identical]

{another good indicater is that they're both J. Percival}

**thinktank2** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:01 PM

*Cough* Eisecure forums*/Cough*

**chrisjk** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by NotLKH
There John IS Our John:

errrr.........like, everybody knows that

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by chrisjk
errrr.........like, everybody knows that

errrr......since when?

BTW, I didn't, {till I searched}
Jpbtennisman doesn't.
apparently Parksie Doesn't.
See http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=36790 for Jpbtennisman & Parksie.

And ThinkTank2 probably didn't, unless this whole thread started as a joke. Didn't see this smilie though.

You propably didn't see it, but it was obvious that I didn't when I posted:

Hehh,
Is Their John Our John?

So, Just flogging a dead horse, not everybody knew.
But, Thanks for your, err, a little too late info.

-Lou

**parksie** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:32 PM

I knew since before I registered on vbulletin.com.

**chrisjk** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by NotLKH

errrr......since when?

BTW, I didn't, {till I searched}
Jpbtennisman doesn't.
apparently Parksie Doesn't.
See http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...threadid=36790 for Jpbtennisman & Parksie.

And ThinkTank2 probably didn't, unless this whole thread started as a joke. Didn't see this smilie though.

You propably didn't see it, but it was obvious that I didn't when I posted:

So, Just flogging a dead horse, not everybody knew.
But, Thanks for your, err, a little too late info.

-Lou

It's common knowledge amongst the regulars. If tennisman didn't know, why did he make a post in Forum Feedback as well a vBulletin?

**SteveCRM** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:37 PM

I knew since john kept adding new features and kept updating vbulletin...

**markman** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:39 PM

They might have a backdoor on their server......

I dont have sub7 installed now; can someone else check

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by chrisjk
It's common knowledge amongst the regulars. If tennisman didn't know, why did he make a post in Forum Feedback as well a vBulletin?

That makes no sense.

If he KNEW then why did he make a post in Forum Feedback as well a vBulletin?

-Lou

**SteveCRM** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:43 PM

Johns never around here.....we don't know if he's ever there either.....so putting it in both will get it seen

**chrisjk** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by NotLKH

That makes no sense.
If he KNEW then why did he make a post in Forum Feedback as well a vBulletin?

-Lou

makes perfect sense. If they were not the same John, what possible reason would there be to alert the VBF John to that fact vBulletin was being copied?

**thinktank2** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by NotLKH

And ThinkTank2 probably didn't, unless this whole thread started as a joke. Didn't see this smilie though.
-Lou

http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.p...threadid=98851

**thinktank2** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:49 PM

BTW...I came to know of vbforums from a link in vbulletin.com

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by chrisjk
makes perfect sense. If they were not the same John, what possible reason would there be to alert the VBF John to that fact vBulletin was being copied?

this is getting CONFUSING!!!!

But the point was jpbtennisman didn't know, which means
everyone didn't, which goes against what you said when you
said "everybody knows that. "{that JohnVBW was their John}

-Lou

**chrisjk** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:01 PM

tennisman did know, which is why he posted in Forum Feedback because he knew it was the same John as the one at vBulletin.

And when I said "everyone", I didn't literally mean everyone.

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:08 PM

Ok. Lets say jpbtennisman knew that.

So, you're saying its neccessary to inform John at BOTH Sites, that the SECOND site He's at is pirated from his own software?

See, I'm really confused here.

**chrisjk** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:12 PM

As Steve said, John is more likely to notice the post if it is made twice. Why do you think some people post the same question in many forums?

Like I said before, if they were not the same person, what would be the point of informing someone who didn't have anything to do with vBulletin?

**thinktank2** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by NotLKH
Ok. Lets say jpbtennisman knew that.

So, you're saying its neccessary to inform John at BOTH Sites, that the SECOND site He's at is pirated from his own software?

See, I'm really confused here.

The site I mentioned
http://www.woltlab.de/en/forum/main.php

does not run "vBulletin" forum software.
It runs something called "Woltlab burning board"
which we supsect is a pirated version of vBulletin.

**markman** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:22 PM

There are plenty of pirated versions of vBulliten ( I had one; I never used it; i was just interested in how it worked) out there. How this is different from the real vBulliten would be interesting to know. Anyone have a file comparor?

**thinktank2** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:26 PM

If u have Visual Studio or at least VC++ u'll have a program called "windiff"

**markman** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:33 PM

Thats good but I dont have vBulliten anywhere.
I now have vbboard and windiff

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:35 PM

HAHAHA!

Now I see. When jp posted http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/show...&threadid=36790, I thought he had joined the woltlab site, and had pointed out their piracy. I followed that link, looked around, found John, and thought he belonged to the woltlab site.

Sorry. But thanks!
I'm not confused anymore!!!
YippEEEE!!!!

{time for a drink!}

-Lou

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:49 PM

http://www.woltlab.de/en/forum/threa...leid=&page=1#1

Gotta say this, When you post, wherever you click in your reply, when you hit Smilie, thats where it goes!

and Avatars, 90x90! I WANT ONE!!! WAAAAAAAA!

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:50 PM

BUT THEY"VE NEVER HEARD OF A CANCEL BUTTON!!!!

**markman** · Jan 5th, 2002, 05:54 PM

Where would a cancel button go?

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:00 PM

In "Edit Post", they have an "Edit Post" button.
No "Cancel"

In "User Profile", when you add a custom avatar, Once you've added an avatar, and "Save Changes", you're back at the Add avatar screen, with the "Save Changes" and "Delete" buttons. No "Cancel".

Only two places I've checked so far.

They've got two extra smilies though!
And there Smilies text code is Different.
and 90x90 Avatars!!!!
Lets do that here, get some sound working when you click an Avatar, heh, we'll show 'em!!!

**markman** · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:01 PM

why not just hit your back button?

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:07 PM

Why Not, Indeed?

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:15 PM

OMG!!!!
You get PostCounts in Chit Chat there!!!
POST-RACE AnyOne?

denniswrenn · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:19 PM

You get post counts in Chit Chat on my forums too.

**NotLKH** · Jan 5th, 2002, 06:54 PM

WHERES YOUR AVATARS!!!
Get one! {shudder, naked vb world members, uuurrgghhh!
BTW, they don't do email notifications of new posts in subscribed threads.
'Natch, since they don't seem to have subscribed threads.
BUT, HEY ARIEN!!!!
They've got a Bug Forum. You could probably become GURU just by recycling all your VBForum Bugs!!!

**parksie** · Jan 6th, 2002, 05:01 AM

I've got vB 2.0.3 somewhere so I'll get that out and have a quick look through the woltlab code as well...

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