i have done so and no success. thanx for the idea though. also i dont think that that is ht problem because it does not happen with every object, only the tools added from the OCX that i previously mentioned. too bad it had to be that OCX cause it added some important things, such as the progressbar, toolbar, statusbar, tabs, and other common things that i use often. so please anyone reading this help me out!!

thanx ahead of time