yes megatron, as I stated.. I was working with it for like 5 or 6 months.. It's really not that hard.. If you understand C++ it's good to go with that one.. not much documentation is available for the VB Wrapper.. but it's not hard to use either.. I did once make a level and fly around it.. it's not hard.. but i haven't worked with it for a long time so I'm off of it right now..