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    Whats better?

    My company is going to train me to develop web applications. What are the advantages and disadvantages of the diferent tools, and languages? Whats the difference between Java and Javascript, etc?

    I use Oracle as my Database and I am DBA and Visual Basic Developer.

    Thanks for you comments.
    Ulises Vázquez
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    JAvaScript is for Internet webpage and Java it's a bigger language who you can do many program, not only web program.

    I think you should use Java instead of JavaScript.

    It's like VB and VbScript... it have a big difference between them.

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    I'd look into j2ee--yes kind of a buzzword. I think that it refers to Java, Java servlets and jsp over the web.

    But why not IIS, asp and active X vb?
    Security Issues, ala code red virus, etc.
    Not locked into any one vendor for your java web server. You can also find several good & free java web servers.

    Note that if you are developing web apps, you WILL have to learn some JavaScript.

    Alternatives?
    If you're starting from scratch, before charging ahead and spending time and money learning Java, jsp, JavaScript, Servlets, etc, I'd first look into the new programming language curl. Curl promises to be a one-stop-shopping development environment. It appears that curl doesn't require quite the heavy commitment to get you going.

    cudabean

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    java tools vs MS tools

    Hey Tonatiuh,


    I acquired a crash course on jsp, servlets, jdbc, rmi, EJB and Oracle 8i few months ago. I found it quite easy to pick up. MY only dilemmi was that it was so vast with regards to EJB. I have to say this; Enterprise Java Beans(EJB) is really powerful tool if you are using WebLogic Application Server (I think they are on version 6 now) and IBM Websphere. I was trained on J2EE which is the Sun version of EJB. Weblogic is better because for 2 reasons:
    1) 90 percent of the Industry use of EJB is Weblogic

    2) You can write your xml DTD file (DTD file sets the property and settings for the particular program).

    3) More flexible than J2EE.


    But J2EE is easier to use because it allows the user to grasp the Business logic of Web development. Users tend to pick up Weblogic afterwards. Weblogic is little frustrating with regards to configuration and initial use.

    Once you pick up Servlets, JSP is so easy. It doesnt follow java convention rigously like Servlets. JDBC is beneficial if you are trying to use Oracle Database with the Web Application. There are must be at least 3 tier's involved....

    1) front end (HTML, JSP, etc). The HTML file will have javascript code within. This usually does initial checks and stuff(things that security issues shouldnt be involved).

    2) middle tier (JSP, Servlet, JavaBeans, etc).

    3) EJB tier

    4) Database tier(backend)

    I don't that much of Microsoft related tools such as ASP, IIS, etc. I do favor java.


    Tonatiuh, How well do you know java????


    Manoj

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    Really I do not know anything about java, asp, php, or something like that. This is the reason I am very confused about what is the better language/tool for web programming, at least for my primary needs.

    I want somethign which works really good with Oracle, because I am Oracle DBA, but I want something that I can learn slightly quiqly, so that I can take advantage of many years I have developed in Visual Basic.

    I thank a lot all of your comments.

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    are you comfortable with???

    Hey Tonatiuh,

    Are you comfortable with Visual C++???

    If so, picking up java is easy. About 2 months for java/jsp/servlets/and jdbc. About another 2 months with EJB. Assuming that you understand C++ well.

    Manoj

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