quote Kedaman:
> You talk the language of
> science, not FACT, Gen-x.
> And I think science and
> religion is both the same
> language, the language of
> faith, and it's the faith
> that differs.

Bravo!! A man of true understanding. This has been my entire argument. People continually complain about "people of faith" beleiving "blindly," not realizing that we believe in something the same way they do.

Unfortunately, instead of accepting in the slightest evidence we present, they say we are only delusion, or mentally defecient, or anything that will keep them from accepting the possibility that what we have seen and know is in fact as real as the evidence they have found to "believe" what they "believe."

I think you said it before, "belief is essential to man's existence." Without we would have none of the technologies we have today. Even greater still is the fact that all that we do (any person) is based on faith. Could I even lie on my own bed to sleep at night without it? You may say something like, "I know I will rest and rise again tomorrow." But do you know that for sure? Such things are said by "faith."

BTW Kedaman - Since you believe God is real, it may just be that much of what was said between me and Gen-x may actually be for you. That is, as a confirmation of what you believe. God uses every man, the believer and the unbeliever, for His purposes. God sent me to the board, and I responded at His request. Normally I do not involve myself with such debates because the Bible warns that arguments are useless, and should be avoided. But the Lord Jesus has something in mind for someone on the board. Though I thought it was Gen-X, it may be you. It may be yet still someone else. Even if no one else (which I doubt), I know my own belief in God has been further solidified by the arguments. The Lord DID speak to me (not my own imagination because several others confirmed what was said - and that without my asking of them). He is trying to reveal himself to those who refuse to see him but their hearts are very hard and they want to live their lives without having to be accountable. Yet, every day their own heart convicts them, and they know it. They do see what we see, but they are not interested in believing (only arguing, and justifying themselves). I myself have said all that I was given to say, and I can say no more. I only encourage to listen to God, and obey Him as He leds you, for He IS teaching you and seeking to reveal Himself to you!

G-day mate!