Post Race!

[Shaggy Hiker]

End of life care is perhaps the scariest thing we can face...aside from the alternative, I suppose.

[Shaggy Hiker]

The death rate is still one per person.

[Peter Porter]

The experimental build of VBForums is coming along, mobile first (offline), so I have to resize my browser's window to see how it would look on phones. There is no sign-in form at the top-right of the forum, just text-links for signing-in or joining. Clicking them, the sign-in/register form pops-up in the middle of the forum, while blurring everything behind it. For quicker signing-in, right-clicking the mouse in the middle of the forum will display a sign-in button above the browser's context menu. Signed in, profiles can be created, and loaded images will automatically crop and resized for avatars. Navigation uses a tab control in the middle of the forum's pages (actually one simulating many), instead of on top like it is here. The first two tabs will be named the same. Signed in, more tabs will appear next to them "Messages", "My Activities", etc... LIke here, sub-forums displayed shows the number of threads it hosts, but not the number of posts yet, or last post. Clicking the sub-forums, threads are listed by creation date, and bumped up to the top of the threads list if a new comment is posted to a thread. The thread shows who started it, replies, and account name of latest reply, which also includes the date and time. Comments in threads shows avatars of created accounts, join date, and date and time of posted comment. Below all that, is the "Quick Reply" composer.

Everything done in this forum (multiple accounts, threads, posts) is saved to my browser's storage, which is all deleted when I close my browser. I'm crazy like that!

[Shaggy Hiker]

What's the end game with this?

[dday9]

How are you fetching the data? I've tried something like this before, but kept running into CORS issues because I was trying to hit the endpoints from a different domain.

[Peter Porter]

What's the end game with this?

Just want to see, and show off, what VBForums could look like with a few tweaks and new features.

[Peter Porter]

How are you fetching the data? I've tried something like this before, but kept running into CORS issues because I was trying to hit the endpoints from a different domain.

I'm not fetching anything from external endpoints at all. All the data, accounts, threads, posts, and images, is stored locally in my browser's local storage.

It's completely offline.

[Bonker Gudd]

Everything you do is being recorded.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Just want to see, and show off, what VBForums could look like with a few tweaks and new features.

That's a worthy goal.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Everything you do is being recorded.

Most of it is dross.

[wes4dbt]

Been gloomy around hear for the past few weeks. Sun has only shown through for one day but this lifted my spirits. I'm not old I'm "gerontologically advantaged" or "chronologically gifted".

[Shaggy Hiker]

It has been warm today. I spent the day getting things done while awaiting the delivery of a cord of wood...or a chord of wood, which would be wood of some note.

The wood was delivered just as rain started falling. From the looks of the radar and the forecast, it will keep on falling into the night. Guess the wood can wait until tomorrow to get stacked.

[Shaggy Hiker]

The winds have been good, though, as it keeps us from having an inversion. Whenever we have an inversion, I stop heating with wood so that I'm not contributing to the problem. As long as the storms keep rolling through and the winds keep blowing, no inversions will happen.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm dreaming of a soggy Christmas.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Looks like that dream will come true.

[dday9]

Well, I updated VBLessons to include a chapter on simple IO operations.

[dday9]

I definitely want to add a chapter in there on Exceptions, I can't believe I haven't done that already.

[jdc2000]

Our area is looking more like Portland, Oregon than Idaho.

[dday9]

Rainy?

[dday9]

Just assuming it's rainy because Oregon is in the Pacific Northwest and all I know about the Pacific Northwest is that is where Big Foot lives and that it rains a bunch.

[dilettante]

How elderly has the membership actually become here by now? It must still be trending toward the lower end, because I don't see much cane-waving here over the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems. Yet long term care seems to be on the radar, so I'm not sure where we're at.

[dday9]

I wasn't aware of the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems, so I looked them up. That's wild, in that new hires will have a surcharge added unless they agree to work "at-will".

I actually assumed most jobs were at-will and didn't realize that federal jobs were exempt. I guess with my preexisting cynical view on the government, it doesn't really surprise me that's the case.

[jdc2000]

We should be getting snow in Idaho. Average high temperatures mid-December through January are below freezing. Instead we are getting rain and 45-60 degree temperatures, mostly thanks to the Pineapple Express weather pattern.

[dday9]

That reminds me, I had someone remark that (because it was chilly for Halloween) this year is the first year it's felt cold on Halloween and that when we were growing up it was much colder.

I didn't argue with him, but I was fairly certain that wasn't the case.

[dday9]

So, like a typical nerd I gathered the data and plotted it out.

[dday9]

Here's the data in case you wanted to see it:

Year	Min	Mean	Max
1985	60.1	66	75.9
1986	48.9	62.4	77
1987	46	62.6	78.1
1988	63	68.6	73
1989	62.1	68.7	75
1990	52	68.7	80.1
1991	69.1	74.3	80.1
1992	61.9	72.8	81
1993	36	41.9	50
1994	56.8	68.9	79
1995	59.9	70.6	79
1996	69.8	76.9	84.2
1997	64.4	72.4	78.8
1998	60.8	72.4	80.6
1999	62.6	69.1	73.4
2000	59	73.2	84.2
2001	55.4	69.8	78.8
2002	55.4	66.5	71.6
2003	60.8	75.3	84.2
2004	69.8	77.2	82.4
2005	73.4	74.4	75.2
2006	63.5	70.6	81.9
2007	61.7	68.4	79.3
2008	51.6	61.1	73.4
2009	63.7	66.6	69.3
2010	59.4	66.8	77.4
2011	51.6	60.1	71.6
2012	50.4	60.4	77.2
2013	71.8	75.7	81.1
2014	54.1	62.9	74.8
2015	68.5	75.9	83.3
2016	62.8	72.7	84.2
2017	54.7	63.6	74.3
2018	69.1	74.7	82.4
2019	49.6	62.4	77
2020	53.6	60.3	73.4
2021	54.5	63.1	74.7
2022	56.1	65.1	76.1
2023	49.3	55	61.7
2024	74.3	76.9	80.8
2025	45	53.69	70

[dday9]

Basically, outside of 1993 when it was stupid cold, it's more or less stayed constant.

[dday9]

Although, there were a few years where the low for the day was close to the high.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I definitely want to add a chapter in there on Exceptions, I can't believe I haven't done that already.

That's an exceptional oversight!

[Shaggy Hiker]

How elderly has the membership actually become here by now? It must still be trending toward the lower end, because I don't see much cane-waving here over the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems. Yet long term care seems to be on the radar, so I'm not sure where we're at.

I think we're averaging pretty elderly, though if you mean the lower end of what would be considered elderly...that may well be the case. At one point (you may remember) there was a poll where the average age was fairly young. That might have been twenty years back, and some of those folks are still around.

[dday9]

I'm not elderly, but I can certainly see it in many of our more active members here.

Elderly isn't the right word. More like many of our members tend to fall between "approaching retirement" and "been retired for a few years", obviously with outliers on both ends, but that's my overall impression.

[Shaggy Hiker]

How elderly has the membership actually become here by now? It must still be trending toward the lower end, because I don't see much cane-waving here over the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems. Yet long term care seems to be on the radar, so I'm not sure where we're at.

Do you have a link for this (not a video, please)? I took a look, and found things, but I don't know if I was looking at what you were talking about. What I was seeing didn't impress me for a couple of reasons. The first is that it is not the last minute, yet, so I'm not surprised that nobody is really squawking, yet. Also, what I was seeing didn't fit well with DDay's reply, so I think I was looking at the wrong thing.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Basically, outside of 1993 when it was stupid cold, it's more or less stayed constant.

Though it looks like they WERE kind of right, since this year was quite a bit colder than the average. I mean the mean was meaner.

[wes4dbt]

I wasn't aware of the impending cuts in payroll tax pension systems, so I looked them up. That's wild, in that new hires will have a surcharge added unless they agree to work "at-will".

I actually assumed most jobs were at-will and didn't realize that federal jobs were exempt. I guess with my preexisting cynical view on the government, it doesn't really surprise me that's the case.

I can't seem to find any information on what your talking about. Can you suggest a link or search criteria?

[dday9]

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits...x-cuts/404901/

[wes4dbt]

Thanks dday.

That doesn't feel legal but then again I don't know how their civil service protections were reached to begin with. Are they negotiated or are they completely controlled by congress?

Here in CA we have a real problem civil service retirement costs. They pay a generous amount and there's a segment of the workers (like firemen/police) that have learned the trick of getting to the years of service needed to retire, go to the DR and say you have a back problem and then retire for medical caused by the job and receive full pensions. So there receiving their pensions for the next 40yrs.

[dilettante]

Well I was referring to the US Social Security system myself, I was just trying to be more inclusive in my phrasing.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/

The Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund will be able to pay 100 percent of total scheduled benefits until 2033, unchanged from last year’s report. At that time, the fund’s reserves will become depleted and continuing program income will be sufficient to pay 77 percent of total scheduled benefits.

[Shaggy Hiker]

That's the story I was finding. Do we EVER deal with a crisis before the last minute anymore? That one is solvable. Whether or not we solve it...that remains to be seen.

[Peter Porter]

I took about a two week break from my AI, but got back into it two days ago. Coding and upgrading it's roadmap at the same time.

[Peter Porter]

Upgrading it's roadmap with improvements to it's engine.