Post election prediction

[Niya]

If that is the case I don't think they thought it well as if Russia starts nuking it will be on Biden's Presidency not Trump's.

Oh you underestimate liberal corporate media. Truth is the last thing they're concerned with. They literally invent fictitious realities whenever it suits them. They're gonna have half the population believing it was Trump's fault.

[sapator]

Lol.
Actually I'm to the point on somewhat Nigel farage did. I've elected Trump and now I'm just standing back enjoying the view.
If liberal corporate media as you say want to do something they must act fast tho. Let Ukraine (aka NATO) launch a full attack with the top of the notch missiles. Time is ticking...

[Niya]

When I look at this development all I can think is thank God Trump won. If this is the kind of move they're making, a Harris presidency would have surely ushered in WW3.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Sappy, I've never understood why you feel that we must let Russia do whatever it wants to whoever it wants. They invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. They are bombing nearly indiscriminately, not Ukraine. If WW III were to start, is it because we didn't insist that everybody surrender?

[TysonLPrice]

Sappy, I've never understood why you feel that we must let Russia do whatever it wants to whoever it wants. They invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. They are bombing nearly indiscriminately, not Ukraine. If WW III were to start, is it because we didn't insist that everybody surrender?

With Fox News host Pete Hegseth as defense secretary everything will be fine. Trump will stop the Ukraine war war in twenty-four hours like he campaigned on and Pete will secure the world. Rest easy

If you feel anxious TV star Dr. Oz will be running Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and he probably still has some cures from his TV show for the nation.

[sapator]

Sappy, I've never understood why you feel that we must let Russia do whatever it wants to whoever it wants. They invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. They are bombing nearly indiscriminately, not Ukraine. If WW III were to start, is it because we didn't insist that everybody surrender?

No comment my friend. Biden is trying to start 3 world war and you ask me things we have gone through 100 times.

[dilettante]

Russia was responding to NATO expansion and threat of future aggression. They were doing the only thing possible to secure their western borders, and soon they won't have the population or resources to mount such an effort.

That doesn't justify their actions, but it helps explain their motivations. Most of it boils down to geography and threats to them.

But I'm not sure how much the Trump Administration will be able to do here. Cool things down? Maybe a little. Withdraw money, arms, technical assistance, etc. from the Ukraine War Machine? Well, a lot of that is going into a few big pockets anyway. Exit from NATO and make Europe start wiping its own bottom for the first time since they started WW I?

I don't know how much of that is practical, much less possible to get enough support at home to make it happen.

Russia is just too tempting of a ripe plum from a fuel resources standpoint. Europe is on the one hand too overpopulated, yet on the other risks falling back to the middle ages without a large population to keep their post-colonization global resource exploitation and finished goods consumption cycle running. Even as it is they only get by because we guarantee them access to our domestic markets and police the seas to make those exports possible.

[sapator]

If Trump exits from NATO it will be the most peaceful, world acclaimed thing he ever pulled.
I don't think it will happen tho.

[wes4dbt]

This isn't about Biden, it's about sabotaging Trump. I don't think most people grasp how truly evil the left is. It means nothing for them to start WW3 just to give Trump a harder time.

This is ludicrous. There is no possible benefit for anyone if the major cities of the world are reduced to rubble and radioactive wastelands and tens of millions of people are killed.

The left will have no problem finding things to "give Trump a hard time" about.

[wes4dbt]

They were doing the only thing possible to secure their western borders

Protect against what aggression? I don't remember Ukraine ever threating the Russia border. I don't remember NATO ever crossing the Russian border.


Europe doesn't need Russian fuel but China is definitely enjoying buying their fuel on the cheap.

[wes4dbt]

No comment my friend. Biden is trying to start 3 world war and you ask me things we have gone through 100 times.

No, you have lots of comments but no answers for direct questions from people that disagree with your claims.

[wes4dbt]

Well, congress is safe now. lol

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...throom-policy/

[sapator]

Ye you really debunked us all , good job. lol
I wonder if you realize how ignorant you sound like.
I guess not.
If you want , anyone wants to continue this, please in the Ukraine war thread. Here we just mock the leftish :P

[wes4dbt]

Ye you really debunked us all , good job. lol
I wonder if you realize how ignorant you sound like.
I guess not.
If you want , anyone wants to continue this, please in the Ukraine war thread. Here we just mock the leftish :P

See, you do have lots of comments but still no answers.

I wonder if you realize how ignorant you sound like.

No, I don't realize that. Why don't you explain what's ignorant about my comments. Or was that just a baseless insult?

[sapator]

It was not an insult , I said you sound like not you are. You keep getting most of my answers as insults, maybe lighten up a bit?Or my English are not top notch so maybe me polish them up some...Which I won't do. Lol.
Aaand I think I would stay out of this, there is lots and lots of pages in the Ukraine thread you might wanna investigate there.
Again here we mock fallen leftish foolishly thought they will win the elections.

[wes4dbt]

It was not an insult , I said you sound like not you are. You keep getting most of my answers as insults, maybe lighten up a bit?Or my English are not top notch so maybe me polish them up some...

Your logic is interesting. It's like saying "I said you look ugly, not that you ARE ugly". lol

Again here we mock fallen leftish foolishly though they will win the elections.

I guess it's good to have a hobby.

[PlausiblyDamp]

Well, congress is safe now. lol

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5...throom-policy/

Good to see they are focusing on the important things!

[Niya]

Russia was responding to NATO expansion and threat of future aggression.

The fact that this even needs to be explained is a testament to the power of the mainstream propaganda machine. A lot of people really believe that Russia is the "bad guy" in this when in reality they have been disrespected over and over and over again. How much were they supposed to take before putting their foot down?

[Niya]

This is ludicrous.

Yes it is, yet they still do it

[wes4dbt]

Yes it is, yet they still do it

No, "they" don't. "They" never have, I think I'd remember WWIII. lol

[Niya]

I think I'd remember WWIII.

You would if Kamala had won lol....

[wes4dbt]

You would if Kamala had won lol....

I think you need to debug your crystal ball. Sounds like it's been infected with the paranoid virus.

[sapator]

Good to see they are focusing on the important things!

That's the stuff!

I totally disagree with this. We have established a "female bath Wednesdays" that we wore wigs and storming the women bathrooms and now it's over!

Funny left boys still don't seem to get that the party is over. Well, they eventually will.

[sapator]

Also, also, I forgot that.
Trump will not acknowledge, by law, any other gender than male and female, so the bathroom argument will seize to exist. Woke boys woke boys what you gonna do?

[TysonLPrice]

Good to see they are focusing on the important things!

"Republican bill to restrict first transgender member of Congress draws criticism"

Yeah...the sponsor of the bill called it "common sense" and referred to transgender women as "men in a mini skirt.". I wonder what cabinet post she will get?

[PlausiblyDamp]

That's the stuff!

I totally disagree with this. We have established a "female bath Wednesdays" that we wore wigs and storming the women bathrooms and now it's over!

Funny left boys still don't seem to get that the party is over. Well, they eventually will.

So why does the existence of transgender people, and the idea of treating them with dignity and respect, bother you so much? Does it honestly hurt you this much that a person biologically of one gender might find life that way a constant struggle, and gender reassignment will improve their life?

[PlausiblyDamp]

Also, also, I forgot that.
Trump will not acknowledge, by law, any other gender than male and female, so the bathroom argument will seize to exist. Woke boys woke boys what you gonna do?

Trump barely acknowledges the law anyway, 34 felony convictions is proof of that!

[FunkyDexter]

So why does the existence of transgender people, and the idea of treating them with dignity and respect, bother you so much?

For me, this is the absolute crucial question. I've said before that I think there is room for a debate around bathrooms/safe spaces etc but only if that debate is held in good faith with a genuine desire to reach an accommodation that is liveable for both sides. But while there is a cadre of people who want to adopt a debate for the purpose of massaging their own ego, that debate cannot happen in good faith and people will continue to suffer.

Or a more succinct answer: because cruelty and kicking down makes weak people feel stronger.

Russia was responding to NATO expansion and threat of future aggression.

1. NATO is a voluntary organisation.
2. NATO is a defensive organisation which has no remit to conduct aggressive action.
3. National Sovereignty allows all Nations to make their own decisions regarding foreign policy.
4. Ukraine had explicitly been refused entry to NATO with no path to entry.

[sapator]

I don't mind the existence. Where did I wrote that?

What law he does not acknowledge? The one that will be passed will be the law and all will acknowledge it.

[sapator]

1. NATO is a voluntary organisation. LOL
2. NATO is a defensive organisation which has no remit to conduct aggressive action. MEGA LOL
3. National Sovereignty allows all Nations to make their own decisions regarding foreign policy. LOL
4. Ukraine had explicitly been refused entry to NATO with no path to entry. Ye because of the war. That is what started it, or OK to be on your turf that was what Russia claimed to start it.

[PlausiblyDamp]

1. NATO is a voluntary organisation. LOL
2. NATO is a defensive organisation which has no remit to conduct aggressive action. MEGA LOL
3. National Sovereignty allows all Nations to make their own decisions regarding foreign policy. LOL
4. Ukraine had explicitly been refused entry to NATO with no path to entry. Ye because of the war. That is what started it, or OK to be on your turf that was what Russia claimed to start it.

So I am assuming you have reliable evidence to support your claims? When did NATO invade a country or force another country to join?

When did NATO last commit an aggressive act?

National sovereignty is exactly what was stated, what evidence do you have to the contrary?

[sapator]

Will it really change your or any leftish mind what I write? Hmm?
So, no I have no reliable evidence and NATO is a peace loving flower war organization.

[PlausiblyDamp]

Will it really change your or any leftish mind what I write? Hmm?
So, no I have no reliable evidence and NATO is a peace loving flower war organization.

A convincing argument with facts would, but funnily enough "lol" and "mega lol" aren't really convincing me...

Then again I suppose without any actual facts to back up your unsubstantiated claims it is just easier to pretend I wouldn't be swayed by your arguments.

Would your right-wing mind be changed by any arguments I could present, even if the facts backed up my claims?

[Niya]

I think you need to debug your crystal ball. Sounds like it's been infected with the paranoid virus.

Thank God for that. I'd be worried if I were infected with whatever liberals got

[TysonLPrice]

For me, this is the absolute crucial question. I've said before that I think there is room for a debate around bathrooms/safe spaces etc but only if that debate is held in good faith with a genuine desire to reach an accommodation that is liveable for both sides. But while there is a cadre of people who want to adopt a debate for the purpose of massaging their own ego, that debate cannot happen in good faith and people will continue to suffer.

Or a more succinct answer: because cruelty and kicking down makes weak people feel stronger.


1. NATO is a voluntary organisation.
2. NATO is a defensive organisation which has no remit to conduct aggressive action.
3. National Sovereignty allows all Nations to make their own decisions regarding foreign policy.
4. Ukraine had explicitly been refused entry to NATO with no path to entry.

It goes further than I thought:

The measure/bill appears to extend to the District’s libraries, recreation centers and, potentially, D.C. Public Schools, which educates half the children in the city and has been at the forefront of advocacy for LGBTQ+ students.

[sapator]

A convincing argument with facts would, but funnily enough "lol" and "mega lol" aren't really convincing me...

Then again I suppose without any actual facts to back up your unsubstantiated claims it is just easier to pretend I wouldn't be swayed by your arguments.

Would your right-wing mind be changed by any arguments I could present, even if the facts backed up my claims?

Read the the Ukraine thread. This is the last time I write this and no I don't have nor the time or mood to persuade a leftish.
Also I'm not rightish not leftish, I'm a patriot but that would start another argument I have no mood to get into so, whatever. Mega Lol.

[wes4dbt]

This is the last time I write this and no I don't have nor the time or mood to persuade a leftish.

Why do you call PD a "leftish", (I guess that's the same as a Leftist).

Because he thinks that Russia had no justification to invade Ukraine.
Because he thinks transgender people should have equality under the law.

[wes4dbt]

So why does the existence of transgender people, and the idea of treating them with dignity and respect, bother you so much? Does it honestly hurt you this much that a person biologically of one gender might find life that way a constant struggle, and gender reassignment will improve their life?

I agree with FD, that is the crucial question. I doubt you'll get an answer.

[sapator]

Why do you call PD a "leftish", (I guess that's the same as a Leftist).

Because he thinks that Russia had no justification to invade Ukraine.
Because he thinks transgender people should have equality under the law.

(I guess that's the same as a Leftist)

Because Biden administration is supposed to be left? Non? Are you rightishts?

[sapator]

I agree with FD, that is the crucial question. I doubt you'll get an answer.

I also agree with FD. To whom are we referring to?

...
So today I've been called rightish, Trump supporter (aka fascists) , trans phobic, insulting, anti NATO manger and US enemy.
But that is the least of the price to pay seen the hive going down in flames and reduced to a rabbit hole and I love it!
Keep it up.