Vc++ 7 ?

**Paul Warren** · Oct 1st, 2001, 09:51 AM

This could have gone in the .Net forum as well but this seems the better place to ask the question. Is Visual C++ being replaced by C# ? I'm not saying C# will replace C++ but will MS be replacing it in Visual Studio ?

**JoshT** · Oct 1st, 2001, 10:39 AM

In Beta 1, you have the choice 0f C# or C++ (with or without "managed extensions"). I had no problem writing and compiling a simple Win32 app with it.

**sail3005** · Oct 1st, 2001, 03:38 PM

yeah, if microsoft cans c++ alltogether, a ton of people will be really pissed.

DaoK · Oct 1st, 2001, 04:11 PM

a ton of people will be really pissed.

Why?

**parksie** · Oct 1st, 2001, 05:22 PM

MS aren't going to can C++. They can't. Just because MS doesn't make a C++ compiler doesn't mean people can't make their own, or use GCC.

Also, remember that .NET is a framework. This means that calls to ANY class inside it MUST go through to the Win32 API - this means that raw C and C++ code straight for Windows will nearly always be smaller, faster, and more efficient.

MS can't and won't redesign the entire Win32 API. Just look at how much of Windows 3 is still in the 9x series.

**Fool** · Oct 1st, 2001, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by DaoK
Why?

Are you serious?

**sail3005** · Oct 1st, 2001, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by parksie
MS aren't going to can C++. They can't. Just because MS doesn't make a C++ compiler doesn't mean people can't make their own, or use GCC.

Also, remember that .NET is a framework. This means that calls to ANY class inside it MUST go through to the Win32 API - this means that raw C and C++ code straight for Windows will nearly always be smaller, faster, and more efficient.

MS can't and won't redesign the entire Win32 API. Just look at how much of Windows 3 is still in the 9x series.

true...true. I wish they weren't coming out with all this .net. i like things the way they are.

**JoshT** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 11:18 AM

I agree with sail. .NET seems to be more for the benefit of MS than for the programmers.

**Fool** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by parksie
Just because MS doesn't make a C++ compiler

?

**parksie** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 11:58 AM

I'm talking about in the future. What I meant was, if MS stop supporting VC++ then there are others you can use.

**Fool** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 03:53 PM

Oh. Your point is very true. Another great compiler for C++ is DevC++. Just like MSVC++.

**sail3005** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 04:06 PM

borland makes a great compiler too, and it's free!

**Fool** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 06:02 PM

DevC++ is also free, I forgot to mention that

DaoK · Oct 2nd, 2001, 07:01 PM

c# it's a bad language....all tell me that. Why they keep continue to work on it !

**sail3005** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 07:01 PM

is dev ASCII compliant though?

**sail3005** · Oct 2nd, 2001, 07:06 PM

hey DaoK, post what you think about C# in my thread: http://161.58.186.97/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107843

DaoK · Oct 2nd, 2001, 07:43 PM

ok i will do it.

**parksie** · Oct 3rd, 2001, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by sail3005
is dev ASCII compliant though?

It pretty much HAS to be...or do you mean ANSI compliant?

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