Quote Originally Posted by Niya View Post
The problem is not their complaining. The problem is they use use soft and hard power to stifle debate. I'd have no problem if it was just a bunch of people arguing back and forth. But when people start getting fired from their jobs, losing big contracts or even getting banned from online spaces like Twitter just because some crazy leftists didn't like what they said, that's when I have a problem.

I also find it interesting that go-to response of leftists to opposition is to silence them. This tells me that whatever they are advocating for cannot stand up to scrutiny so. People who are sure their ideas have merit aren't afraid to have it scrutinized. This is precisely the problem with Twitter and one of the bigger reasons why Elon wants to buy it.
You're really going out on a limb when you say you know why Elon Musk wants to do ANYTHING. It's why YOU want him to buy it, but what he actually wants...who knows. I'd guess he never intended to buy it, at this point, but it's just a guess.

Still, if it was just debate, that would be one thing. Perhaps in your country it IS nothing but debate. In the US, it's the right to discriminate that is being fought over. The right to be racists. The right to be xenophobic. The right to silence those you don't like by putting a rope around their necks.

If it ever just becomes the right to debate, that would be amazing. Of course, the debate isn't based on data. People are 'debating' by putting up youtube videos.

Also, you're celebrating somebody for being obnoxious and offensive. You are aloud to be all of that, but not everywhere. You never have been allowed to be like that everywhere. You certainly haven't ever been allowed to be like that here. I was pointing out that this has never been a 4Chan cesspool. There have always been lines. They've moved a bit over the years, as different moderators came and went. There were a LOT more bans at one point, and a lot more lenience today. There was also a time when language almost didn't matter (see the snake thread as an example), but never a time when intolerant and ignorant positions were not met by strong push back. Stronger than today, even.

There are places where you still need to act polite, even if you aren't.