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    Re: Getting the ball rolling. Which VB6 projects are you working on?

    Perhaps I made wrong assumptions when you said "but for me, the UI is everything.".

    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    but for me, the UI is everything.
    I thought in a consumer/commercial product where to please the user and to make something visually appealing is a primary goal.
    More users that like the product means more sales, more income.

    But of course my assumption was totally wrong.

    Nobody can discuss tastes.

    And I have no idea about the purpose of this project.

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    Re: Getting the ball rolling. Which VB6 projects are you working on?

    Well, it is still true that for me, the UI IS everything. However this is not a commercial and nor a consumer product and so the UI is not designed to appeal to, let's say, a type of bulk consumer.

    It is a product designed for a specific niche of consumers and of course visually appealing to them and probably them alone - and possibly visually appalling to the rest.

    Of course we can discuss tastes, we just don't necessarily like someone else's taste. Your last comment - If you can't understand the purpose of the project it probably just isn't designed for you. Sometimes if you don't 'get' something you can just forget it and move onto something else, that is what I do. There is so much I don't like and I simply ignore it. There is so much code in the code bank...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    Of course we can discuss tastes
    People can discuss anything. The point is if it makes sense.

    That we can't discuss tastes is a saying (actually the saying is "there's no accounting for taste"), and common sense.

    How could someone argue with someone else that something is beautiful/ugly?

    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    we just don't necessarily like someone else's taste. Your last comment - If you can't understand the purpose of the project it probably just isn't designed for you. Sometimes if you don't 'get' something you can just forget it and move onto something else, that is what I do.
    No doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    There is so much I don't like and I simply ignore it. There is so much code in the code bank...
    This is what I did so far.

    What I don't like is when people say "this is good" not being honest. I prefer to tell the truth (at least what I think it is).
    I mean, if someone has a commercial goal with what he is doing.

    With 8 pages of the ball rolling I think you have to accept some different opinion. So far I only remember dilettante that said something.

    On a few words: if you are saying that the UI is so important to you, can't I suggest then that IMO you better get rid of the 3D look immediately?
    Why are you posting this in a public forum if you only want opinions of people that like it or has tastes similar to yours?

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    Re: Getting the ball rolling. Which VB6 projects are you working on?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eduardo- View Post
    Why are you posting this in a public forum if you only want opinions of people that like it or has tastes similar to yours?
    Can you please relax a bit and get off your high horse? You seem to becoming defensive. This is not an argument. I appreciate your position I am simply ignoring it for my own personal reasons.

    You seem to misunderstand me so let me explain and appreciate whilst I am doing so I am not arguing with you.

    I do not care (in a nice way) whether you dislike the design or not, it is not relevant to me, that is the whole point. You may continue to dislike it and I will be entirely happy with that - but I am not seeking your opinion nor your approval.

    This isn't to say that I am arguing with you over your opinion as it is perfectly valid for most users. It is just that I personally am not interested in your opinion with regard to design -as this project is taking a different approach. You should not get upset at that nor waste any more of your time. Certainly please don't think I am being rude to you or disrespecting your artistic eye, as I am not.

    When someone does something you don't like just let them get on with it.

    To answer your response, I am posting here not for approval nor of the opinions of others, it suits me if some like it, and it suits me if some do not. In this case I am responding to your specific comments out of politeness - and showing you my approach - and my reason for posting is that I'm just following the title of the thread and showing what I am currently up to.

    You might want to post what you are up to. I'd love to see that. Perhaps I could cast some judgement upon your creation and you could ignore my recommendations. I'd be happy with that too.
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    Re: Getting the ball rolling. Which VB6 projects are you working on?

    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    Can you please relax a bit and get off your high horse? You seem to becoming defensive. This is not an argument. I appreciate your position I am simply ignoring it for my own personal reasons.

    You seem to misunderstand me so let me explain and appreciate whilst I am doing so I am not arguing with you.

    I do not care (in a nice way) whether you dislike the design or not, it is not relevant to me, that is the whole point. You may continue to dislike it and I will be entirely happy with that - but I am not seeking your opinion nor your approval.

    This isn't to say that I am arguing with you over your opinion as it is perfectly valid for most users. It is just that I personally am not interested in your opinion with regard to design -as this project is taking a different approach. You should not get upset at that nor waste any more of your time. Certainly please don't think I am being rude to you or disrespecting your artistic eye, as I am not.

    When someone does something you don't like just let them get on with it.

    To answer your response, I am posting here not for approval nor of the opinions of others, it suits me if some like it, and it suits me if some do not. In this case I am responding to your specific comments out of politeness - and showing you my approach - and my reason for posting is that I'm just following the title of the thread and showing what I am currently up to.
    If you post something in a public forum it is not a private conversation with a single member. So if you don't care at all what I think, that's fine, but what I say is not just for you.

    It does not mean that I want to make other members to think that your design is not good, no. It means that if other people is tempted to think that the 3D design is "cool" and up-to-date and that it sells, they are wrong (of course, it is my opinion).
    Being the VB6 default, some people could be tempted to think that it is still "good enough" in 2022. I would say that "I don't think so". BTW the simpler alternative is to use themed controls and a manifest.

    Of course, it is not for you, it is just for others, because you don't care what I think and because you already know what you are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by yereverluvinuncleber View Post
    You might want to post what you are up to. I'd love to see that. Perhaps I could cast some judgement upon your creation and you could ignore my recommendations. I'd be happy with that too.
    Possibly, but I need to finish what I'm doing.
    But it is nothing too special regarding UI, it has mainly just normal controls themed.

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    Re: Getting the ball rolling. Which VB6 projects are you working on?

    No, wrong. I DO "care" what you think, I do not discount it. I am sure it is correct for the majority of applications you might want to build. I accept it as being true for the vast bulk of people and users out there - I'm just going to ignore it. so, I value your opinion - but just I am not going to take it into account in relation to what I am doing there - as it is a deliberate implementation of that specific UI. That's it, all done. Let's move onto the next creation.

    I look forward to seeing what you are doing.
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