Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

[Eduardo-]

my thoughts are:

where should I move if things starts to get ugly?

I mean, I should not have those thoughts at all, and I live in one of the most open country in the world and I don't feel protected at all.

Difficult question, can't answer now.

[Eduardo-]

Well, the video is worth watching.

It is a bit pain to watch because the guy stutters (actually both of them do it a bit).
But the information is very enlightening.

We are talking about this virus all the time, but I came to the conclusion that this virus is just a tool on their plan, nothing else. The problem is much bigger.
We saw in the last two years the first step to a totalitarian system.

This is only the first step of their plan. The goal is a totalitarian global "management" (I'm not sure whether to call it "government").

No surprise that Bill Gates and others were already announcing that will be other pandemics and other threats.
Of course, it is not because they are prophets, it is because they are announcing what they are planning to do.

[sapator]

Moving is giving up.
Of course giving up is an option if things get ugly, I totally respect that.
The problem is that people are willing not to give up and fight but they don't know how to.
The have voted for corrupted people. They don't know who is corrupted or not, media fuss their minds.
It's difficult to make a right choice with all these things happening around, you may trust someone, a channel, a spotifyier only to find out that they are on the take also.
So I don't have an answer other that search search search if you have the time for it and decide.

Vaccines search was easy, they practically did not hide well so everyone knows by now that the where for the big bucks, sure they also made questionable vaccines in the process.
I would imagine than if Omicron was actually more lethal and with medical reports coming out showing a negative immunity on vaccines, vaxbies would have srit their pants but they got lucky and they play it cool now. Well luck does not always substitute decisions. Sometimes it does but sometimes really does not. Also lucky is what the aftereffects of the experimental vaccines would be. You played the dice let's see what it will bring up.

[TysonLPrice]

How does hypnotism have anything to do with bears? No bear I have ever encountered was readily hypnotized.

I tried once and I barely got away with my life...

[sapator]

I tried once and I barely got away with my life...

Not being able to do so does not automatically mean that it is not possible.
I would suggest another go at it

[baka]

well, its not "move" because I don't like the situation right now.
its "move" when they are about to take your stuff and force you to resettle to another location and force you to do what they think are "right" for you depending on a "social-scoring-system" that of course is manipulated.
I own nothing, and I need to comply. if I don't take the vaccine they remove my "benefit" and I get transferred to a much worse location, or even worse, they force it on me, since I don't have rights anymore.

this:
"No. We are living in a democracy. We have the protection of the police. Nobody's going to hurt us."

right now we are here, people believe in the system.
but if this gets worse and worse and worse, there will be a moment in time when theres no more choice to move, you can't anymore.
right now they are changing the covid-certificate so its only valid if you have taken 3 shots.
so, for all the unvaccinated it means u need to take 1, 2, 3 before you can get it.
and if they increase to 4, it takes even longer before you get this certificate that allows you to move out of the country.

I need to get it from the black market. that the police is trying to crack everywhere. so soon theres no option for that as well.

so, only the vaccinated can move, all others are stuck. soon we need to dig a tunnel to escape.

of course this is the worse case scenario.
but remember the world economic forum wants this to happen, a perfect world where everybody are happy without owning anything.

[sapator]

That's what the hypnotized bears are for. To dig the tunnels.

[sapator]

Frequent Boosters Spur Warning on Immune Response.
Nothing new, just saying https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ystem-ema-says
Also hope this is not true but I just glimpsed it https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/09/uk...eveloping-ade/

[baka]

well we can not be sure, the site its labeled as fake: (dailyexpose)

https://www.logically.ai/articles/ac...e-daily-expose

the question is. why?
why would there be so much fake, and for what reason?
to sell some paper? to get donations? clicks?

we know people want money. everything is about that. at least for the majority of people.
to create a site just to spread misinformation, why? to tell people, do not take the vaccine.

ok, lets say we are fooled. but I already got covid, it was like a normal flu.
so its not that if I don't take the vaccine I will die.
sure I will not follow the masses, but it will not do much harm, since we know how a corona virus spread.
vaccinated are already spreading it around, so its not that its our fault.

that means, theres no logic to if everything is fake except maybe they want me to donate for their site. money.

or theres fake-sites created to confuse people. if theres so much fake out there, everything most be fake, making people almost immune against any information outside the narrative.

[sapator]

Yeah I do sincerely hope it's fake.
As much as I find it "insert your swear word here" to vaccinate with the 3rd dose if you are healthy and not in a dangerous category, I also have people close to me that did that so I don't want to see them get hurt.

But, I have heard that one of the vaccine reactions is the ability to hypnotize bears. I would suggest the following:

So you get close to the bear, right?
And you pull out the hypno equipment, an old clock or the other slip slap medallion and such.
Now you don't want to alarm the bear so you need to get sprayed with honey, this will keep the bear calm.
And now you start saying the "vaxgic" words. "Bear be, bear see, be my hypno bear to be" .
Anyone tried it let me know how it went.

[baka]

maybe theres a bit of "truth" behind a fake news.

by telling the population that something happened, spreading it around
and later you create a its fake-campaign against it,
you will add a "mistrust" inside peoples mind about that "something".
so if in the future something like this would happen, maybe a real doctor would tell a story,
people will consider it "yeah right, another fake news"



I believe in something else.
listening to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich (u can find the interview here: https://zeeemedia.com/interviews/)
he says that not all batches are "contaminated". that means, if you are unlucky you get that "bad" batch that will cause damage.
but most of the time its a "good" batch.

the reason they do this, is to control the narrative, create outburst of death/sickness in a region for their own agenda, maybe scare tactics.

so maybe that "fake news" theres a bit of truth, if we gonna believe Dr. Reiner Fuellmich.

[digitalShaman]

Anyone tried it let me know how it went.

"We have not yet heard any one reporting it not working, so we assume it works great and is save and effective!"

[sapator]

I wonder if the bear jew falls into the bear category...

[dilettante]

Wow, this thread gets weirder and weirder. People arguing both sides are starting to remind me of that Jack Elam character, the Crazy Old Coot in hat and moustache in an episode of The Twilight Zone:



"Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up"

[FunkyDexter]

this thread gets weirder and weirder

I gave up trying to follow it over Christmas and really can't be bothered to wade through it again to catch up. A quick skim told me that a load of commercially motivated media organizations conspired with governments from around the world to murder their consumer base in massive numbers. It had something to do with the rising cost of social care.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Please tell me you're joking....

Nope. I was honestly curious. I can tell you what my answer is:

In the US, there was a brief period of lockdown in early 2020. That had no negative impact on me, because it wasn't real. There are countries that enforced strict lockdowns, used the police to enforce them, etc. That wasn't the case in the US in general, and was even less the case where I live. For me, lockdown just meant that I didn't have to commute quite as often. That was literally the ONLY impact it had. There WOULD have been an impact if I was short on toilet paper, because there was a run on toilet paper such that stores were totally empty. However, by pure chance, I had bought a bunch not long before COVID showed up, so I knew I didn't need any for several months, without even dipping into my backpacking supply.

Following that brief lockdown, there was a much longer phase during with masks were more or less required to be worn in most stores. Not all, and enforcement was spotty, but it happened. That isn't much of a burden. Those same stores require people to wear shirts and shoes, so a mask was just a further article of clothing. Since I have a beard, it looked silly (for some reason, masks cause beards to jut forwards rather comically) and was most likely cosmetic.

After a few months of that, all stores dropped mask requirements. By the time I went on a long bike ride, last summer, I carried a mask with me, since I didn't know what local conventions would be in place, but that was about it. Sometime around then, my employer went back to mandatory masks in the office after having dropped them for several months. They also have something of a dress code that is occasionally quite strict, so, once again, this was just another article of clothing in a place that already had plenty of rules on that.

That was the extent of the impact: Occasionally, I had to wear a mask, but only in places that had always been requiring certain attire for decades.
So I sold no freedom and gained no security.

What about you?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Not being able to do so does not automatically mean that it is not possible.
I would suggest another go at it

We deal with bears occasionally. After all, I spend some time walking up streams looking for salmon carcasses...and so do bears, though for different reasons. I wouldn't eat the stinky, maggot infested, carcasses, but bears aren't so picky. Come to think of it, people don't expect ME to be that picky, either, but I am...really. I wouldn't eat a rotting carcass. I don't think even Norwegians would eat them, and they (or some country up there) has a notorious dish involving rotting fish.

Anyways, we are scanning the carcasses for a particular RFID tag. I always tell new people that they need to scan any bears that they encounter. To date, nobody has believed me. I even tell them that if they tickle the feet of the bear it will let you scan it, but they don't believe that, either.

So, I don't believe you about hypnotized bears, either.

[sapator]

Fine be me.
I think your just lazy to try to hypno one up (remember the hypno words are really important).

[Shaggy Hiker]

Oh boy. I really don't want to go down this road and get personal again. I'll just say that by the sheer luck of having the right clients we didn't go from having a comfortable life to 2 steps away from starving.....

That's a good point. I'm well aware that my career insulated me from the impacts of COVID. The US insulated a whole lot of citizens, as well. We may have had the most generous COVID financial support program of any country in the world (I don't know of any that came even close, but there may be some). That's kind of strange, really, because the US isn't known for being all that generous. Some folks attributed it to the financial crisis of 2008 (or thereabouts). The thinking was that the impact of that recession was made more severe and prolonged by the inadequate, misguided, response. The same people who had made those mistakes were still around (or were back) for COVID, and they learned from their mistakes. In 2008, the response was meager and brief. In 2020, the response was perhaps TOO supportive.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Fine be me.
I think your just lazy to try to hypno one up (remember the hypno words are really important).

I'm not lazy, I'm just out of shape. The darn bears always run away, and I can't keep up with them.

[dilettante]

Yeah, the current rules and levels of observance seem pretty spotty by where you live, work, etc.

I went out last week to pick up a pizza as a rare treat. Foolishly I chose dinner hours on a Friday, so I arrived to find about 8 others waiting inside for their orders in a fairly confined space. All of them wore masks, as I did. About 10 degrees F outside, so only one person stood outside to wait.

Masks can only do so much, however in a group of conscientious folks your odds of safety improve by an order of magnitude anyway. They are less likely to be carrying the crud and more likely to stay home if they were.

[dilettante]

People are weird.

It looks like there is a new fad "gumless gum" in a sort of tube you shove into a nostril and inhale.

At first I thought it was a comedic fake ad, but nope.

[sapator]

I'm not lazy, I'm just out of shape. The darn bears always run away, and I can't keep up with them.

Thus, enter honey spray. The rules are flawless and described in the "Bear hypnotism for Dummies 3rd edition" . I think I have helped out as far as I could, if you don't want to do so just proclaim it and don't find cheap excuses for not doing so.

(Did you ever thought that some day someone will accuse you for not trying to hypnotize a bear? Ooohh yeah!)

[Niya]

What about you?

Well we had harsh multi-hour lockdowns for most of the pandemic, some of which were 20 hour lockdowns. The government even flirted with the idea of permanent 20 hour lock-downs. They were severe enough to significantly impact the economies of small business to the point where several business owners are still before the courts for breaking the law in order to feed their families. We were kind of lucky because we dealt with an industry that was deemed essential by the government. Nonetheless, I have some fond memories like an entire squad of heavily armed and armored policemen threatening me like I was El Chapo because I was in front my house 5 minutes before curfew. Yea that was fun. The lockdowns stirred up enough trouble that one of our most prominent leaders threatened the government with a coup if they didn't end the lockdowns. He 100% had the power to do since he had done it decades earlier the last time he perceived the government was being unjust. Fun times over here.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Thus, enter honey spray. The rules are flawless and described in the "Bear hypnotism for Dummies 3rd edition" . I think I have helped out as far as I could, if you don't want to do so just proclaim it and don't find cheap excuses for not doing so.

(Did you ever thought that some day someone will accuse you for not trying to hypnotize a bear? Ooohh yeah!)

Frankly, I've been kicking myself for years for not hypnotizing one particular bear.

Somebody had told me about a little blond bear that had bothered them at a camp several miles away. It sounded interesting, but...it had been several miles away, so I dozed off. I was awoken by a sound, and looked out of the tent. There was the bear, reaching up for my food bag.

Now, most black bears are not very photogenic. You get a picture of a bear-shaped absence of light. Not this bear, though. This bear was a kind of dirty-white color, kind of like your typical sheep, except that it had black paws and a black muzzle. That was the most photogenic bear I have ever seen...and I missed the picture. Instead of grabbing my camera for what would have been an epic picture, I asked the bear what it was doing. It looked puzzled, but ambled off. I grabbed the camera and chased it half way around a lake, but the only pictures I got were pretty terrible. All it shows is the backside of the bear, and it looks like nothing more than a sheep. I'd have to tell people that it was a bear, or else nobody would believe it.

Hypnotizing THAT bear would have been a good thing to do. Perhaps I could have gotten it to pose for me?

[Shaggy Hiker]

Well we had harsh multi-hour lockdowns for most of the pandemic, some of which were 20 hour lockdowns. The government even flirted with the idea of permanent 20 hour lock-downs. They were severe enough to significantly impact the economies of small business to the point where several business owners are still before the courts for breaking the law in order to feed their families. We were kind of lucky because we dealt with an industry that was deemed essential by the government. Nonetheless, I have some fond memories like an entire squad of heavily armed and armored policemen threatening me like I was El Chapo because I was in front my house 5 minutes before curfew. Yea that was fun. The lockdowns stirred up enough trouble that one of our most prominent leaders threatened the government with a coup if they don't end the lockdowns. He 100% had the power to do since he had done it decades earlier the last time he perceived the government was being unjust. Fun times over here.

I hadn't heard about that extreme a response in this part of the planet. I know the Philipines had some brutal lockdowns, and of course there is always China (I suppose North Korea might be worse, but they were in lockdown before COVID was even a thing). On the other hand, we have the highest death toll (unless India passed us, but they do have four times our population), so the US response worked out economically, but not in other ways.

[Shaggy Hiker]

It looks like there is a new fad "gumless gum" in a sort of tube you shove into a nostril and inhale.

Is that what they call it? I've always heard it described as sniffing glue. Maybe that's a different thing.

[Niya]

No. We are living in a democracy. We have the protection of the police. Nobody's going to hurt us.

I am simply in awe that people living in 2021 are still naive enough to utter nonsense like this. This is basically "It can never happen to me" kind of thinking. Why do people always think it can't happen to them.

[sapator]

Next time you try to hypno one just RTFM.

Here:

[Niya]

I hadn't heard about that extreme a response in this part of the planet. I know the Philipines had some brutal lockdowns, and of course there is always China (I suppose North Korea might be worse, but they were in lockdown before COVID was even a thing). On the other hand, we have the highest death toll (unless India passed us, but they do have four times our population), so the US response worked out economically, but not in other ways.

Well the worst of it is behind us. The government ended the lockdowns and we are now on a slow road to economic recovery but that is still looking bleak. There are still several changes that altered the way we live life here and there is no end in sight. Certain freedoms we had before are now gone. For one thing, we have to wear masks here permanently and it's not something we can take lightly unless we want to face very stiff fines at the hands of the courts enforced by an over-zealous police force. We also have some kind of safe-zone thing which is used to restrict certain activities and behaviors for unvaccinated people. Violating these restrictions carry far stiffer penalties. The latest thing that is happening now is the government is refusing to pay it's workers unless they get vaccinated. All in all, life here is nothing like it was before. It's like living in a different world.

[Eduardo-]

I'm not lazy, I'm just out of shape. The darn bears always run away, and I can't keep up with them.

If you want to hypnotize a bear, there is a technique that won't ever fail:

Look for a female bear that just gave birth and is with the cubs.
Try to touch or get near to any of its childs.

Come back here and report.

[dilettante]

Here is one such product: https://boomboomnaturals.com/

[Eduardo-]

Did you know that in Australia they are detaining unvaccinated people into hotels? (no concentration camps still -step by step-).

The news are from early december: Liberal senator Alex Antic taken to medi-hotel by police over vaccination status.

Interview to the senator on video:

https://rumble.com/vqc6wi-australian...n-centers.html

[Eduardo-]

Milgram experiment (fron Wikipedia):

The Milgram experiment(s) on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants, men in the age range of 20 to 50 from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner". These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.

Read full: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

[baka]

[Shaggy Hiker]

If you want to hypnotize a bear, there is a technique that won't ever fail:

Look for a female bear that just gave birth and is with the cubs.
Try to touch or get near to any of its childs.

Come back here and report.

Here's a humorous video of doing exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJRDpTUIrJI

There are others. As mentioned early on, they aren't all that aggressive at that time.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Milgram experiment (fron Wikipedia):



Read full: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Yes, that's a famous experiment. Whether or not it really showed what he said it showed has been debated ever since. The Wikipedia article lays out some of the controversy surrounding it and the variations on the experiment that looked at other interpretations.

[Eduardo-]

Here's a humorous video of doing exactly that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJRDpTUIrJI

There are others. As mentioned early on, they aren't all that aggressive at that time.

That's cheating, if you drug the mother you cannot hypnotize her.

[Eduardo-]

Another related experiment: The Third Wave (experiment): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Th...e_(experiment)

The experiment took place at Cubberley High School in Palo Alto, California, during the first week of April 1967. Jones, finding himself unable to explain to his students how the German people could have claimed ignorance of The Holocaust, decided to demonstrate it to them instead. Jones started a movement called "The Third Wave" and told his students that the movement aimed to eliminate democracy. The idea that democracy emphasises individuality was considered a drawback, and Jones emphasised this main point of the movement in its motto: "Strength through discipline, strength through community, strength through action, strength through pride."

[Shaggy Hiker]

That's cheating, if you drug the mother you cannot hypnotize her.

Yeah, I thought so, too. I thought I had seen a video where they didn't use drugs, but they were only measuring the cubs. Couldn't find it, though. The video I linked to is more entertaining anyways.