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Jan 18th, 2022, 04:21 AM
#4761
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by sapator
I was the first to post it here in the Denmark report but it was an early one so I used caution.
As for Denmark... one of the Countries with the highest vacc-rates,
but also apparently one which is using real, unfaked numbers in their reports and studies...
Here's 3 current Charts, all showing the recent, roughly 7-weeks-interval,
when Omicron started to take over from Delta, all curves from Dec. 1 2021 - up to the current day:
1) Showing, that the current Vaccines were (and are) unable to prevent the huge Omicron-wave
.. (the current top of the wave is factor 6 higher than on Dec. 1 - and still climbing)
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...e&country=~DNK
2) Showing, that Omicron (referring to the fear-mongering in most channels), is not causing higher ICU-occupation
.. (despite the huge increase of infections, observable in 1))
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...e&country=~DNK
3) And in case anyone still needs proof, that Omicron-is far less deadly than Delta...
.. (currently it is factor 4 lower than on Dec. 1, and it will sink further because the infections are still climbing and the ICU-occupation is sinking)
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers...e&country=~DNK
Olaf
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:06 AM
#4762
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
maybe this is better?
this is a 1on1 interview with Shankara Chetty and Maria Zeee
https://rumble.com/vsokj8-dr.-shanka...-0-deaths.html
I recommend everyone to listen to this.
it could actually save someone dear to you if you know this.
Last edited by baka; Jan 18th, 2022 at 10:44 AM.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 10:24 AM
#4763
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
this video is quite good: https://rumble.com/vst08o-karen-king...-children.html
what is says is this, in a study:
the data show vaccinated resp unvaccinated. and of course unvaccinated are always over-representative. they show sign of infection and get sick.
telling the public: look here, if u are vaccinated you are safe. look at those imbecile unvaccinated how many that gets sick!
but, reading the rapport further, they tell you something that nobody cares about:
after 1 week, "a lot" of vaccinated people got sick.
that means, the vaccine is protecting you from the "corona" but not from the spike-protein allergic reaction, that is the one that is fatal.
it all makes sense.
watch the video with Shankara Chetty first. it explain why this it like that.
and if this will not make you change your mind, nothing will.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 10:26 AM
#4764
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
This is a german documentation about the Swineflue of 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkQH6JO4n8
switch on auto translated subtitles if you dont speak german.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 11:00 AM
#4765
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by sapator
Communism, Nepotism,Cronyism,Fascism,Nazism.
But I think currently we have Hypnotism, I can't figure out why we vote those idiots so I think hypnotism is a fair assumption.
Why not mesmerism? Ol' Mesmer has faded in popularity. It's hip to hype Hypnotism, while mesmerism molders.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 12:05 PM
#4766
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
I have linked mesmerism with a good thing so while possible I prefer Hypnotism.
But yeah if that will bring back the bears...
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Jan 18th, 2022, 12:38 PM
#4767
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Lord knows they need it, after this season.
You probably aren't talking about the team from Chicago, but I have no idea what you are talking about, so that's as good as any.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 01:30 PM
#4768
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by baka
watch the video with Shankara Chetty first. it explain why this it like that.
I found this transcript: https://sca.news/en/corona-committee...ona-committee/
of his testimony https://www.bitchute.com/video/nV1c0N5bS1Xu/
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Jan 18th, 2022, 02:06 PM
#4769
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Lord knows they need it, after this season.
You probably aren't talking about the team from Chicago, but I have no idea what you are talking about, so that's as good as any.
Lol, my first though was that you will think what you thought.
Actually I'm talking about claws, disembowelment and bites. Vaxbies favorites
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Jan 18th, 2022, 02:59 PM
#4770
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
In that case I have no idea what you mean. How does hypnotism bring back bears? Bring them back to where?
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Jan 18th, 2022, 03:07 PM
#4771
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
I have noticed that most of the news sites that every day publish the new covid cases, also mention the accumulated cases and accumulated deaths from the pandemic started, also showing graphs of the accumulated data, like reminding to everyone how many people died and the bad of this pandemic, also giving the impression with those graphs that have ascending curves (because it is accumulated data) that the situation is only getting worse.
If that is not on purpose and the direction from above, tell me what it is.
IDK in your countries if they are doing the same thing, but my guess is that it must be global.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 03:08 PM
#4772
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
another attempt to control:
270 researchers, doctors and nurses are now demanding in a joint appeal that Spotify stop podcasts with incorrect and misleading information about vaccines, reports Dagens Nyheter.
Among other things, the researchers point to Joe Rogan's podcast "The Joe Rogan experience", the most popular podcast on Spotify and the largest podcast in the world, as one of the world's most influential sources of harmful information about vaccines and the corona pandemic.
"This is not just a health issue but a societal issue of terrible proportions and Spotify is to blame for letting this kind of activity thrive on the platform," the researchers write in the appeal.
The researchers' anger against Spotify was aroused after Joe Rogan interviewed the well-known vaccine opponent Robert Malone, who, among other things, compared the requirements for vaccines and restrictions with the Nazi extermination camps.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 05:19 PM
#4773
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Eduardo-
I have noticed that most of the news sites that every day publish the new covid cases, also mention the accumulated cases and accumulated deaths from the pandemic started, also showing graphs of the accumulated data, like reminding to everyone how many people died and the bad of this pandemic, also giving the impression with those graphs that have ascending curves (because it is accumulated data) that the situation is only getting worse.
If that is not on purpose and the direction from above, tell me what it is.
IDK in your countries if they are doing the same thing, but my guess is that it must be global.
Why would it be directions from above? People misuse data all the time, it doesn't mean they are being controlled into doing so. News is about selling a story. That's why most news is bad news: That's what sells. Showing the cumulative deaths doesn't bother me so much. Whether that is misleading depends on what message you are discussing. That's actually an issue that we wrestle with in counting salmon redds (nests). Nobody is directing us as to how to count salmon, but we end up with two different approaches (cumulative and otherwise) that can be used differently depending on the question being asked. You just have to understand what is being reported so that you don't misuse the data. For that reason, I don't mind cumulative death reporting for COVID.
However, I don't agree with cumulative infection rate reporting for COVID. There's a use for that, but the data isn't being used correctly. You could use that to look at population immunity, but I've only occasionally heard anybody mention cumulative infection rates in that context. Daily or weekly infection rate seems like the only thing that should be reported for infections. That figure certainly leads on any reporting that I've heard locally, but the cumulative infection count is often also included and it shouldn't be.
Still, I'd say it's just because people don't do stats all that well.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 05:39 PM
#4774
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
In that case I have no idea what you mean. How does hypnotism bring back bears? Bring them back to where?
I'm amazed. You just answered yourself the question an you still ask me?
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν·
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Jan 18th, 2022, 05:57 PM
#4775
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Daily or weekly infection rate seems like the only thing that should be reported for infections.
I've stopped checking the daily numbers for the US. It seems very inconsistent, weekend number are always much smaller, then some really big numbers early in the week as they catch up on the reporting. Been just checking the 7 day averages for a while now.
Reporting cumulatives is common, never thought I'd hear someone use that a sign of something nefarious.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:22 PM
#4776
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
I just wanted to know if in other countries people are seeing the same behavior from media, not to get opinions and interpretations from negacionists.
BTW: I'm watching this video about the society hypnotized, it is a bit boring, but what it describes is true anyway:
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:34 PM
#4777
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
He is a psychologist that is explaining mass formation, and how the mass-formed people can sacrifice lot of individual things (freedom, goods, even their lives) for the "good of the mass".
It happened with Nazis and also with Communists in USSR.
I'm in minute 22.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:37 PM
#4778
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by sapator
I'm amazed. You just answered yourself the question an you still ask me?
How does hypnotism have anything to do with bears? No bear I have ever encountered was readily hypnotized.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:40 PM
#4779
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Eduardo-
If that is not on purpose and the direction from above, tell me what it is.
It's definitely on purpose. They can scare the population into selling their freedom for security.
It's funny, I remember in the very beginning of this whole pandemic. I too was quite scared of it. Then one night I asked the missus to pull up some numbers for me on the internet and I crunched them myself. I wanted to know what my chances of dying were and I found them to be too low for me to be as worried as I was. Shortly after we both contracted it, it lasted 3 days for me and 5 days for her. We silently recovered right in the privacy of our own home using common household treatments like Panadol, orange juice, vitamins, rubbing alcohol and vix. I stopped caring about Covid after that.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:41 PM
#4780
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Eduardo-
He is a psychologist that is explaining mass formation, and how the mass-formed people can sacrifice lot of individual things (freedom, goods, even their lives) for the "good of the mass".
It happens with well above 99.9% of humans. Every society means that you sacrifice some individual things for the "good of the mass." Therefore, the only people who don't do that are the rare few that aren't part of society. Those people are usually insane, and the insanity means that they can't live in society.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:49 PM
#4781
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
It happens with well above 99.9% of humans. Every society means that you sacrifice some individual things for the "good of the mass." Therefore, the only people who don't do that are the rare few that aren't part of society. Those people are usually insane, and the insanity means that they can't live in society.
The only problem is when you do that based on lies for the benefit of an elite.
That's happens when your mind have been narrowed too much, to the point that you don't see other things, you only focus on one (alleged) problem.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 06:49 PM
#4782
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Niya
It's definitely on purpose. They can scare the population into selling their freedom for security.
And that's definitely rubbish. Of course most people survive. The death rate was ALWAYS reported to be very low for the vast majority of people. That doesn't matter for those who did die or the families of those who did die.
What freedom did you sell? What security did you gain? Once again the conspiracy has foundered on the rocks of incompetence, yet you still believe in it. Some grand plan to gain...well, nothing obvious, but it was still a grand plan and it failed. If your goal in life was to go on a cruise in 2020...okay, your goal was thwarted, but otherwise, what have you lost?
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Jan 18th, 2022, 07:00 PM
#4783
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
You Shaggy are in an alternative reality, so we can't talk about the same things, because we live in different universes.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 07:40 PM
#4784
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Evidently, though mine's better.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 07:45 PM
#4785
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
From 26:27:
One characteristic of mass formation is that it makes people extremely intolerant for dissonant voices, for other voices, and actually we can easily understand that if we know that these other voices, these different voices, threatened to wake people up and to confront them again with these problematic conditions before the mass formation existed, so meaning that if someone tries to convince someone that the corona narrative is wrong or that the mass narrative is wrong, then the people feels that he is at risk of waking up and in that case that he will be confronted again with the initial free-floating anxiety (that he had before the mass formation) and the the lack of social bond and stuff.
And so that's one of the reasons why people are highly intolerant
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Jan 18th, 2022, 07:47 PM
#4786
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Evidently, though mine's better.
Yes, a lot better.
The only problem is that your universe is not secure.
Last edited by Eduardo-; Jan 18th, 2022 at 07:52 PM.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:12 PM
#4787
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
What freedom did you sell? What security did you gain?
Please tell me you're joking....
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:17 PM
#4788
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
Evidently, though mine's better.
Maybe there really is a multiverse. lol
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:18 PM
#4789
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
That doesn't matter for those who did die or the families of those who did die.
I've lost people to Covid too and I still don't care about it as much as "they" want me to. Covid didn't kill anymore people I know or care about than any other thing. Eg. Gun violence, fires, sickness, accidents or one of the many dozens of things that killed people everyday before Covid's arrival.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:26 PM
#4790
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
When people care about reality and truth by applying common sense and logic, being rational, they tend to agree in one universe.
Other people that prefer to build their own universes, they live in universes "much better" generally.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:26 PM
#4791
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Shaggy Hiker
If your goal in life was to go on a cruise in 2020...okay, your goal was thwarted, but otherwise, what have you lost?
Oh boy. I really don't want to go down this road and get personal again. I'll just say that by the sheer luck of having the right clients we didn't go from having a comfortable life to 2 steps away from starving.....
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:32 PM
#4792
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
Covid was (is?) a real threat, but that doesn't mean that they didn't amplify it as much as possible. Using truths and also using lies.
It became more clear now with Omicron, since it was known that it was mild, but they insisted with their fear-mongering the same as before.
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Jan 18th, 2022, 09:54 PM
#4793
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by Eduardo-
Covid was (is?) a real threat, but that doesn't mean that they didn't amplify it as much as possible. Using truths and also using lies.
It became more clear now with Omicron, since it was known that it was mild, but they insisted with their fear-mongering the same as before.
In my opinion their main tactic was focusing more on the numbers than percentages. 3000 sounds a lot bigger than 1% in a lot of people's ears.
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Jan 19th, 2022, 02:13 AM
#4794
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
A few days ago I posted:
 Originally Posted by Eduardo-
It is my experience from what I see in my country regarding media, politics and so, that about 1/3 of the population prefer to be deceived, being lied doesn't matter, they are fanatics. They don't reason and don't want to know facts.
1/3 are in the opposite side, they hate to be deceived (and stolen) but some become also very fanatic about being in the opposite side and don't look to actual facts, just anything that is according to their ideas is OK.
And the other 1/3 is in the middle, they don't know what to think and sometimes are more convinced from one side and sometimes from the other.
At the end, this 1/3 of the middle defines the outcome, at least while we (still) have democracy.
This perception is not only mine, I remember that I read that there are studies pointing that in more or less the same proportions. Now I don't recall what studies were, they were something of the US government (perhaps CIA) of some decades ago. Sorry that I can't provide something more accurate.
But now I don't think we are globally in that proportion regarding what it is really happening in this pandemic, due to the opposing information being systematically suppressed.
The expert in the video says at 35:00:
In a process of mass formation, there are three groups, there are always three groups.
There is one group [of] only about 30% of the people [who] is really hypnotized. That's something strange, and also in a totalitarian state only 30 percent of the population is really totalitarian.
There is a second group of about 40% who usually does not go against the the mass, or the crowd, so they also follow the crowd. And in that way there is a group of 70% who is going along with the system or with the masses.
And then there is an additional group of about 30 percent who is also not hypnotized ["also" because the second group of 40% is not hypnotized, but just follows the mass] and who tries to speak out or to do something.
And that group is extremely heterogeneous. It's of all political backgrounds of all socio-economic statuses, of all ethnic groups.
It's very hard to define what this third group is, but this third group is usually about 25% or 30%.
So if this group could really unify, as soon as this group is really one group, as soon as this group finds a way to really identify with each other, the crisis is over and the mass formation stops. That's the challenge.
As I said, I saw that in my country.
The 40% of the middle (that just follow the mass), as soon as they perceive that the third groups is large enough, they change side (it is a process, not all change side, at least at once). Specially when they perceive that the third group represents better values than the first group, along with experiencing the consequences of the ideas of the first group.
Last edited by Eduardo-; Jan 19th, 2022 at 02:20 AM.
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Jan 19th, 2022, 03:09 AM
#4795
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
we have been indoctrinated by media our entire life with conspiracy theories.
and when we are overflow with that many people tend to shut down. too much and the brain is censoring it.
thats the problem here. the people that runs the world economic forum knows it and are using it in details.
even with hard evidence those people will just censor it. no matter what you say and what you present.
- 1. we have a doctor showing in details how covid works and have a protocol how to treat it, successfully.
- 2. we have a doctor explaining real data, that if you read the whole document it shows that theres symptoms showing after 1 week.
just this 2 would explain "a lot" whats going on.
just this 2 would also make you wonder, if those 2 knows this, why not big pharma and experts?
and you will choose "its a conspiracy".
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Jan 19th, 2022, 03:40 AM
#4796
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
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Jan 19th, 2022, 04:03 AM
#4797
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
exactly, we need to be reminded Eduardo.
but how many even care?
thats the scary thing. they don't, they just rationalize saying: its not the same. it will not happen, stop with this nonsense, we are smarter now.
are we really?
while putting your head in the sand, free speech is oppressed and persecuted.
I posted about the news yesterday, that they want to shut down The Joe Rogan experience on spotify.
and today in the news:
the intelligence agency here in Sweden: (Säpo is like CIA)
Säpo warns of increased misinformation online.
The security police are now warning of what they believe is increased disinformation and extremist propaganda on the internet linked to the pandemic.
and other news:
Selfish of pregnant women not to get vaccinated
Only half have taken syringe against covid-19
they and intensifying it each day.
a propaganda machine to force everybody to take it.
Last edited by baka; Jan 19th, 2022 at 04:11 AM.
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Jan 19th, 2022, 04:14 AM
#4798
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
 Originally Posted by baka
exactly, we need to be reminded Eduardo.
but how many even care?
thats the scary thing. they don't, they just rationalize saying: its not the same. it will not happen, stop with this nonsense, we are smarter now.
are we really?
while putting your head in the sand, free speech is oppressed and persecuted.
I posted about the news yesterday, that they want to shut down The Joe Rogan experience on spotify.
and today in the news:
the intelligence agency here in Sweden: (Säpo is like CIA)
and other news:
they and intensifying it each day.
a propaganda machine to force everybody to take it.
At minute 7:46:
How serious those warning signs were taken, is exemplified by my mother, who, when I asked her if we had to worry about a guy like Hitler, she said, "No. We are living in a democracy. We have the protection of the police. Nobody's going to hurt us."
So talk about warning signs, there were plenty of them.
Did we take them seriously?
My family didn't. Never believed that Germans would stoop so low that they would implement the threats which one fanatic uttered...
And so, our own life went from bad to worse and it culminated in July of 1942, when we were arrested and sent to a concentration camp.
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Jan 19th, 2022, 04:30 AM
#4799
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
It is the exact same thing: before they burned books, today's nobody reads/needs books, people are censored in major media (youtube, TV channels, etc).
The same thing is already happening now.
Some say: it won't happen here in America.
It is already happening, don't you see?
But mandated vaccines won't happen, they say. Because we have democracy, supreme court, etc.
Really? Do you think that these things will protect you?
The same as the mother of this man believed that the police in Germany would protect them.
They go step by step. One year ago, vaccines mandates was not even considered. Now in some countries they are about to be issued (Austria, may be Australia, France).
You have to be very blind for not seeing it.
The same happened in Germany, as this man said:
So talk about warning signs, there were plenty of them.
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Jan 19th, 2022, 04:34 AM
#4800
Re: Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.
my thoughts are:
where should I move if things starts to get ugly?
I mean, I should not have those thoughts at all, and I live in one of the most open country in the world and I don't feel protected at all.
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