Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

[Shaggy Hiker]

and that means anything that could lead to harm in any way.

You mean things like passing a deadly disease along to you?

so Im not sure what you try to say. maybe u defend yourself now. u feel threaten that your world view could crumble and you try to make a point.

My world isn't likely to crumble.

but the only thing u do is making a bad point. anyone sane understand this.

And therefore, you are saying that I'm insane and you are not? That's very convenient. It lets you discount any view that doesn't agree with yours. I don't think your insane, I just think you're unhappy and trying to rationalize it away.

of course a sick person we need to take care of. hospitalization, jail or medicine.
but its not the same thing as choices that need to be respected.

Jail the sick? Voluntarily, or does their choice not get respected in that case? How do you decide?

It's not a simple question. In this state, there are people who are opposed to all health care. Their faith states that it is always God's will. So, there was a recent case (though there have been several), where the very young child of a couple came down with something readily treatable, but fatal if not treated. Do they have the right to let their child die because their faith requires that? If you find that question easy, then you aren't thinking about it enough. There is a near infinite gradation to that question: How much harm are you allowed to do to your children just because you believe it is the right thing to do? Also, who gets to decide what is harm?

[digitalShaman]

passing a deadly disease

oh boy....

as you said, if you look for darkness, you will find darkness. if everyone (especially if unvaxxed) is threatening your life, then i feel deeply sorry for you. your world must be very dark.

[Shaggy Hiker]

oh boy....

as you said, if you look for darkness, you will find darkness. if everyone (especially if unvaxxed) is threatening your life, then i feel deeply sorry for you. your world must be very dark.

I didn't get vaccinated because I was worried about COVID, I got vaccinated for the benefit of those around me.

That's an excellent use of "the big lie", though. Perfect technique is always impressive.

[Niya]

I didn't get vaccinated because I was worried about COVID, I got vaccinated for the benefit of those around me.

I got vaccinated just for the card that allows me to do the things I could do pre-Covid that didn't require proof of vaccination at the time. My decision had nothing to do with Covid.