Corona virus, China major city lockdowns, etc.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Actually I'm question my own ability for making jokes but I think that is what you imply.

I'm in Athens but I'm getting back on vacation late next week, my diet at vacation is swim,pizza,swim,pork souvlaki,swim spaghetti and meatballs, beer,beer,beer.
So I'm forced to swim a lot else it's fatty fat fat time!

That sounds like heartburn city, to me...unfortunately. It also sounds delicious, but the older I get, the more that I have to regulate my intake of both pizza and certain kinds of spaghetti sauce (basically, the stuff that I make, which is awesome). I might be okay if the pork souvlaki was last on the list, though.

[wes4dbt]

well the vaccine mutates that is part of how it operates and we do have clear evidence that it mutates quicker when allowed to spread unchecked.

Did you mean o say,

well the VIRUS mutates that is part of how it operates and we do have clear evidence that it mutates quicker when allowed to spread unchecked.

I'm no expert. But logic tells me that if the virus mutates through reproduction, then the less people infected = less virus = less mutations. How's that for critical thinking. lol

[wes4dbt]

That sounds like heartburn city, to me...unfortunately. It also sounds delicious, but the older I get, the more that I have to regulate my intake of both pizza and certain kinds of spaghetti sauce (basically, the stuff that I make, which is awesome). I might be okay if the pork souvlaki was last on the list, though.

It as only a week or two ago you posted that you just ate a whole large pizza. That doesn't sound like regulating. Pizza is worth the pain. lol

Age does mess ith your digestive system. Had my gallbladder removed a couple of weeks ago, I'm still trying to figure out what I can eat. And how much.

[Shaggy Hiker]

It as only a week or two ago you posted that you just ate a whole large pizza. That doesn't sound like regulating. Pizza is worth the pain. lol

Regulation has it's limits.

I'm basically fine so long as I eat those foods at noon, but later on in the day...not so good.

Age does mess ith your digestive system. Had my gallbladder removed a couple of weeks ago, I'm still trying to figure out what I can eat. And how much.

That must be galling.

Of course, that's only because you're Greek. Had you been French, you would have had your gaulbladder removed.

[wes4dbt]

Of course, that's only because you're Greek. Had you been French, you would have had your gaulbladder removed.

You forget who you were talking to???? I'm pure American white trash.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Yep, I certainly did.

[wes4dbt]

It can be hard to tell us apart. Just remember I'm the one with the Monocle, Top hat and Cane.

[dilettante]

It can be hard to tell us apart. Just remember I'm the one with the Monocle, Top hat and Cane.

Ahh, so a California property owner.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I figure he's just the Monopoly guy....or Mr. Peanut, one or the other.

[wes4dbt]

I figure he's just the Monopoly guy....or Mr. Peanut, one or the other.

You caught me, yes one of my superpowers is turning into Mr. Peanut.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I left out one other option, I think: The Penguin. I'm not sure if he wore a tophat, but whenever I think of Mr. Peanut (which I almost never do, except that he's recently shown up in some TV ads) I always think of him as speaking in the voice of The Penguin from the old Batman series.

Unfortunately, I don't remember how The Penguin spoke in that series, so it's very hard to imagine.

[wes4dbt]

https://youtu.be/AI0YBlBxp84

He was great. That show had amazing actors playing the villains.

[Shaggy Hiker]

AHA!! You ARE The Penguin!

[dilettante]

Well if that's the case watch out for the desperate homeless.

https://youtu.be/hxEN0RXzyuY

[sapator]

Mr.Nay will kill you slowly.

ΜΙΤ Stephanie Seneff:
https://rumble.com/vjcavz-prominent-...rative-di.html

And,so you don't waste your time, here is the "usual" article that you will use to argue that the person is "crazy"

https://www.facebook.com/McGillOSS/p...0917?__tn__=-R

[NeedSomeAnswers]

Did you mean o say, the Virus mutates

Yes indeed I did mean to say that, and I have edited my original post so that it does, thanks

I'm no expert. But logic tells me that if the virus mutates through reproduction, then the less people infected = less virus = less mutations. How's that for critical thinking. lol

Exactly, people should not need to be an expert to understand that

[Shaggy Hiker]

Right. It's like that old saying: If your parents didn't have children, odds are that you won't, either.

[dilettante]

We just got a vaccine lottery. They even take entries for those who already got it, so great. When I win the big pot you'll finally be free of me.

[sapator]

I would really like to hack JMC account and give you a good spank right now
Yeah lottery! What did you win?! Vaccination!!!! Yeea,errrrr,eeemmmmm,, mmm,fff,dd.d.....

[Shaggy Hiker]

The lotteries that are showing up in various states are drawings for large cash amounts if you get, or have gotten, a COVID vaccination....except in at least one state, where you don't get a BIG pot, but you do get SOME pot. I think that was somewhere in New York.

[sapator]

While here we get 150 Euros.
The Government thugs born out of an mid evil oxyrhynchus egg think that we are "zitoules" aka poor that will do anything for a few bucks.
Well surprise surprise out of the 900.000 young that are eligible for the bonus only 15-20.000 did the vaccine to get it.
There is something rotten in the kingdom of Greece but we are getting the torches ready.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I'm just wondering how long you can keep coming up with original insults like that. mid evil oxyrhynchus egg? That's awesome.

[dilettante]

Well we have legislation that limits what the State can so. They partnered with a grocery/department store chain to get around the law to offer a modest lottery. Those getting vaccinated during the program are eligible for more frequent drawings with a $50K grand prize. Everyone vaccinated is eligible for two drawings where the grand prize is $1M the first one and $2M the second.

So there was a lot of weaseling to get around legal challenges yet still provide incentives to people to newly get vaccinated.

[sapator]

I'm just wondering how long you can keep coming up with original insults like that. mid evil oxyrhynchus egg? That's awesome.

That's the Government fault. They inspire me.

I can understand the big bucks lottery on US as your have a lot more people there but that cannot apply in Greece as apart from Athens and Salonika the other cities don't have more than 200.000 people and we are not really sticking our head in the gutter for a price.

[FunkyDexter]

but you do get SOME pot

Sounds like a Washington or Colorado kinda thing.

[Shaggy Hiker]

Or Nevada, Oregon, California, New York, and a few others that I'm sure I forget.

[wes4dbt]

The whole vaccine lottery thing seems bizarre. You wont get vaccinated to protect your life or to keep from infecting your family and friends. But you will get vaccinated for a long shot chance to win money. That's a sad statement about peoples priorities. Crazy world.

[techgnome]

It's actually more aimed at those that might be on the fence about it or putting it off "just because" ... it's not intended to move ani-vaxxers over the fence. Only the ones already on it.

-tg

[TysonLPrice]

The whole vaccine lottery thing seems bizarre. You wont get vaccinated to protect your life or to keep from infecting your family and friends. But you will get vaccinated for a long shot chance to win money. That's a sad statement about peoples priorities. Crazy world.

I think it also is meant to target young adults...at that age they think they are invincible. There brains aren't quite developed yet either

But they can always use a chance at money.

[sapator]

AS I've said, in Greece they failed.
Also it's not right to bash young. I was very clever as a young man , it just gotten worse aging a little....Or I was less clever as a young man and I preserved it? If I know myself I wouldn't have done the vaccine younger with all the money in the world and young people tend to prioritize money less than more mature people. You do remember that right?

Show me the moneyyyyyyyy!!!!!

[sapator]

I'll give you a reason not to.

And I left this pass by for a few days. I though that someone, while this has been going heavy all over the world, would have any courage to post it but meh.

https://fortune.com/2021/07/05/israe...delta-variant/

That is plummeting. You've been tricked but people will find 100 excuses now that the deed is done to stay in denial.Well carry on my good Sir's.

So get ready for the third forth fifth dose etc...
Ages below 50 do not need to vaccinate but it's your choice ages 65+ would have to carefully study the risks, If they are in good health without issues then NO but again your choice, if they have issues and they want to take the risk of a stage 3 conditional vaccine then.... Your choice.

I'm speaking for Greece now but it seems like a micrography of what is going on. Every day for about a week now I'm getting up for work, turning the TV on till I get ready. EVERY day on the news they are terrorizing people that if they don't do the vaccine they will die or be really sick from covid, they wont be able to go to a restaurant or to a shop and every day I give the finger to anyone on the TV at the time and go to work. One day I was in a hurry and I gave the finger to a super beautiful anchor woman, I regretted that . They do that while we have 2-3 death per day due to summer while "theoretically" we had 200 deaths per day a few months ago.
So terror, terror, vaccinate, vaccinate, hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Government pigs? Their are giving away free money. And where is the covid? HE'S AT HOME WASHING HIS lipoma!

Hopefully more to come next few months. Will see...

[sapator]

This is your guy.
I don't know how reliable he is. You tell me.
https://www.wbrc.com/2021/07/06/dr-f...ld-wear-masks/

[dilettante]

Another guy who seems sincere and authoritative, but his delivery is a bit sleepy making it hard for people to watch his entire videos:



Delta is hitting hard in the UK, and as he said many places like the U.S. haven't seen it yet in significant numbers.

UK and Peruvian "Lambda" crops up here and there but I don't see very much discussion of that variant yet aside from some tub-thumping about on it Globalist Privatized Radio (er, "NPR" here in the US).

[sapator]

Someone should tell them that after Delta is Epsilon , Zita, Ita etc not Lamda or I missed something and the variants exploded to lambda .
Tell them that next is Mi, Ni, and then it's "Ksi" that is your "X" so it's cool hearing it. Covid X the return!!!

[Shaggy Hiker]

Since they are using just Greek letters for each variant, I could believe that we are up to Lambda, though I have no idea. Once you start naming all the variants...well, there are likely to be lots of them, many of which will get little press. Still, that seems like a really bad idea. If you count every variation, there should be dozens of them, in which case you'd run out of letters. Just naming the major variants seems like the way it has gone, and the way it should go. In that case, we shouldn't be up to Lambda....unless we are just trying to get to Mi.

We're all about Mi.

Meanwhile, there's that article in #2592. That's not an argument about vaccination, that's life. If you were to take that as a reason not to get vaccinated, you also might not want to treat anything. After all, if you have a treatable cancer, and you treat it...well, something else is going to kill you, so why bother?

What's terrific about the mRNA vaccines is that they can be quickly reformulated to go after new variants. It's just code.

[sapator]

Yes terrific, even their creator is skeptical.

It IS an argument and it's all over the world right now. I won't go to any confrontation, the covid hoax is slowly getting what it deserves.I believe we will see that in a couple of months.
But I'm more into having just one day at work and then vacations until August. That is my main concern.

Btw you can go to as many letters as you like. Going with Roman numerous that are actually Greek letters X=Xi,V = Ni, I= Iota. So Covid X would be Covid 10. But it's more cool to write it "Covid X".
I'm even willing to bet that they will create a Covid X variant and it will be the most "dangerous" off all. Covid X, get your stuff ready, it's coming in a hospital near you!

[wes4dbt]

Don't see anything in the post #2592 article that suggests getting vaccinated is the wrong choice. Is your position we shouldn't have gotten vaccinated because it doesn't protect us 100% of the time, especially from new variants. So if we can only save half the people, meh not worth the effort.

[Shaggy Hiker]

I REALLY don't want to start naming variants using Roman numerals, whether based on Greek or anything else. That would get so ugly so fast it isn't worth thinking about.

Otherwise, that study doesn't suggest that vaccinations are bad, it's saying that the delta variant can break through the protection of the vaccines more effectively than previous variants. The Economist has a much more thorough explanation of how and why that is happening. However, they also point out that deaths from the delta variant are almost exclusively among the non-vaccinated, though they do somewhat suggest that, while the delta variant is many times more transmissible than the original flavor, it may be less deadly.

You can also get some much better insight by reading the latest Scientific American. A better drug, that may be vastly more effective, may be on the horizon. That should cheer you up, because you've favored drugs over vaccines, so if we call this a drug you can be happy about that...ignore the fact that it acts like a vaccine...just ignore that, nothing to see here, move along.

[wes4dbt]

ignore the fact that it acts like a vaccine...just ignore that, nothing to see here, move along.

Thought you were a research scientist, because that looks a lot like some Lawyerish fine print. lol

[sapator]

Lees deadly?
Really? Hey attack Shaggy now as you did when I said that!
Who wants to bet on "Covid X"? I bet my presence to this thread.....But I may have to rethink that as if I win I would be left alone blubbering with myself here.
Oh hi Sap... Hey, look who it is! Hey hey hey, Sap dudeee! So did you win the bet? I sure did!! Great Sap me boy!


P.S. There is the Greek Papanikolaou drug. It's highly effective, on conditional stage as all the vaccines so, you're welcome.