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[JaredM]

Wow, my post got taken down with great haste. It was a joke, honestly where has freedom of expression gone? I thought that's what our great country was all about. Censorship was designed for our collectively feable American minds. Where it's better to block out things you don't want to see or hear, until you can't ignore them anymore. The same liberal way we dealt with Terrorism until now. If we didn't pride ourselves on ignorance and unawareness these issues might have been dealt with a long time ago. But hey it's what the people love, and they eat it up. The majority will continue to rule, and the media will continue to dictate our trends. For there is more to the story of the bombings than any of our fragile minds will ever hear, or believe for that matter.


- I love my country, but I fear my government.

[DerFarm]

You should have had more racial perjoratives. Those seem to not
get taken out as fast.

It also helps if you accuse others of being not serious
enough....in and around the racial/ethnic slurs.

[Cander]

This message board is not the media. This message board is not the government. It is a privatly owned web site. And just like you, the moderators have freedom to remove your post that they deem inappropriate. Fredom is a 2 way street which many people dont realize.

[DerFarm]

Yeah! you Commie....uhhhh wait a minute....drug flashback.


Never Mind.

[JaredM]

Even though I cited the 1st Ammendment, I never said that they infringed on my rights, I said they censored me. I also didn't say they don't have the right to censor me, I was implying it was lame. All I did was put up a poll to see if people were supporting of nuclear action against the Islamic and Middle Eastern countries that harbor, encourage, and praise terrorism against our country. We honestly wouldn't be the "Great Satan" if we supported them instead of Israel.

[HarryW]

You can cite the US constitution all you want, this is a UK-based website

[JaredM]

I will.

However, I'm glad that (unlike the United Kingdom) we actually have a written Constitution.

[HarryW]

Personally, I'm quite glad we don't have one. Some parts of the US constitution seem a little out-of-date to be honest (gun laws mainly), but that's just how I see it.

So, you live where you live and I'll live where I live

[simonm]

All I did was put up a poll to see if people were supporting of nuclear action against the Islamic and Middle Eastern countries that harbor, encourage, and praise terrorism against our country.

That's just completely stupid.
Firstly, you would be nuking millions of innocents along with the fanatics.
Secondly, you wouldn't be so keen on nuking one of these countries if they were bordering the USA would you?
Thirdly, if Afganistan was nuked, Russia (and Pakistan) would go ape sh*t. Do you think they would just sit back and take a nuclear strike just over their border?

I don't think your post should have been sensored, it should have been left there for all to see.

[JaredM]

Yeah, guess what I don't see anything wrong with putting up a poll to see what people other people think. I guess you think I'm supporter, even though I didn't say one way or the other. When you ASSUME you make an ASS out of U and ME.

For the sake of argument, in you worry about innocent casulties. Did you ever consider the following?

Tell me, how many Japanese soldiers died at Hiroshima and Nagisaki? No kidding. How many innocents died in the Trade Center? The world is full of perfect and absolutely politically correct human beings, and tell me what innocent is? Innocent of what? Are they in question of a crime? How about undeserving people. That's more accurate. Many thousands of UNDESERVING people have died in the past and it will continue to happen, because they swear allegiance to something. Whether it be a country, or a dictator, etc. None of this would be an issue if they just left us alone, because quite frankly that's what the US has been trying to do. They hate the US just as much as they hate the jews. Their decandant civilization honestly shouldn't have ever seen the 20th century. Their civilization should've evolved with the times, or vanished. They are still living in the dark ages, and fighting holy wars. You cannot reason with such a civilization. Trust me if they have the nuclear weapons the US and all their other enemies would be suffer unsurmountable tragedies, and these harbouring countries would turn their cheek and say it was terrorists. No one should pity their "innocents", because their terrorists came from their "innocents", and all their "innocents" started celebrating when they heard the news. When the US citizens hear about similiar things occuring in their country we don't go out and have a parade. Imagine one of their "innocent" children being raised thinking killing an enemy was an honor, and killing their women and children was a greater honor. How would you feel if one of their "innocent" children given the opportunity would put a bullet in your head and all of your loved ones and feel no remorse. In fact feel downright pleasant, because it was his civic duty and his parents would honor him. How does that make you feel? These countries need to be taught a lesson, and we need to give them a valid reason to hate the US for as much as damage the fanatics they harbor, breed, and fund have caused. Then we'll sit down and talk. It's time for their country to make a forceful reform. We can't have barbarians still running around in a time where such things as mass destruction exist. Otherwise our entire world will be at risk. You ever think of that?

[aknisely]

Yeah, guess what I don't see anything wrong with putting up a poll to see what people other people think

It wasn't approved by the Federal Polling Agency. Besides, most people don't care about what other people think.

[InvisibleDuncan]

Originally posted by honeybee
That's perhaps the best quote posted by a member I have seen. Is that an original one?

HB - please tell me you're being sarcastic. That is one of the most pathetic utterances ever to come out of management training school, and it is only ever used by people who are such sad-acts that they cannot think of an original phrase to use.

In most modern societies, people using that phrase would be hung by their testicles and urinated on by passers-by.

[simonm]

JaredM

Unless you're just playing devils advocate, Can I gather that I was right in my assumption? I assumed you were "for" it 'cause only someone for it would even consider posting such a poll.

These countries need to be taught a lesson, and we need to give them a valid reason to hate the US for as much as damage the fanatics they harbor, breed, and fund have caused. Then we'll sit down and talk. It's time for their country to make a forceful reform. We can't have barbarians still running around in a time where such things as mass destruction exist. Otherwise our entire world will be at risk. You ever think of that?

If we go in there, bombing and killing people indiscriminately (let alone a nuclear attack) we will be teaching them a lesson and not a lesson that you might think. I suspect whomever organised the attack on the WTC thought they would be teaching America a lesson. The only thing it has achieved is making America more resolute and more willing to act against terrorists.

Mass, indiscriminate, destruction of Islamic people will cement in the hearts (of those who survive) a fear and hatred so deep that it will foster new terrorists to take their place.

If America performs (indiscriminate) acts of mass destruction on any country, the world alliance will crumble as all but America's most devout allies turn against them.

[JaredM]

Well, I see you read into correctly. I was playing the devil's advocate. I do feel though they do infact need to be taught a lesson. Their country do infact need to enter Modern times.

I don't understand what that one guy was saying about Vietnam. The way he stated towards what I was saying made it out to be "No innocents were killed in Vietnam". It's like the same effect of a double negative. I'm sure I didn't cite all major conflicts, but I think I made the point clear that the Hiroshima was almost entirely civilian population.

Oh, I don't disagree that we're not doing things to their country, but it was only our fault I guess for trying to help them. The USA has been trying to be a regulator and trying to impose it's ideals on all the other cultures. Trying to stop the spread of Communism for example If that isn't a testimate to the USA's ego I don't know what is. We should've just stayed out of their business and let them happily slaughter themselves in other countries, but our strange and newly developed humanist side said we can't just sit back and let that happen.

I don't understand this sudden disgust with what these countries have been doing for centuries. Our US people think they're so clean and perfect, because they lack exposure to our actual heritage. Our country itself committed almost complete genocide on the Native Americans! Funny how we overlook that I try to talk big to these other countries. (Let clarify really quick before I make this next statement, because only one person so far has been picking up on the tone of my arguments. I DO NOT SUPPORT GENOCIDE.) Now, it seems that the Holocaust was an enormous injustice to humanity, but funny how the US has managed to look over the fact that it desimmated the Native Americans. No different.

Quite honestly, in overall ideal, every contries objective is to whipe out the others culture, people, and/or religion and in the process thereby preserving their lifestyle. I find it hilarious that God seems to be on everyone's side. God was probably with the Terrorists that attacked the Trade Center. According to them of course. God is with us in our War against Terrorism. And the US is the Good in the Good vs. Evil. Whatever happened to seperation of church and state?

[HarryW]

Whatever happened to seperation of church and state?

Amen to that