I'm pretty sure the MSDN subscription was a separate thing originally, as I didn't have VB6, but did have VB5 as part of my last full Visual Studio Suite (I only bought VB6 pro as a single language option) but I was a beta test member of the MSDN subscription when it first came out. I don't remember the year off hand, but I got a T-Shirt somewhere of an Anvil crushing a bug for being a beta team member. I continued the subscription for the first couple of years but the first year it jumped to over six hundred dollars I opted out since I only used VB primarily as a hobby and some personal tool type applications.